Locked THE FLASH TV Series Discussion Thread 1.0

[justblaze717]

Even though Flash is still pretty weak, he should handle Arrow pretty easily. If Arrow ever lays hands on him it's over for the Flash.

 

[Francis Rossi]

This was probably the best episode of the show so far. Some great excitement, some more cool effects, and drugged Eddie.

Also, its taken awhile, but Latino Fitz is growing on me. (Awesome moniker btw).

Drugged Eddie was great I was on codeine a few weeks ago, and I wasn't too far off that myself...

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: November 26, 2014

First Look at Ronnie Raymond and Professor Stein in THE FLASH

Robbie Amell, who plays Ronnie Raymond/Firestorm in The Flash, has posted a photo to his Facebook page, posing with Victor Garber, who plays Professor Stein, his mentor. In the comics, Ronnie Raymond and Professor Stein were the first two people to share the body of Firestorm. Later, Luc Roderique was cast as Jason Rusch, who is the current "other half" of Firestorm. You'll note that they're wearing the same outfit, likely an indication that Firestorm took the form of Professor Stein at some point, since thats not the clothes Ronnie was wearing the night he died

First Look at Ronnie Raymond and Professor Stein in THE FLASH

 

[Frank23]

It's a really good show.

 

[surgeyou1]

Even though Flash is still pretty weak, he should handle Arrow pretty easily. If Arrow ever lays hands on him it's over for the Flash.

Hands on him? Flash is a fucking metahuman. He could probably toss Arrow around without even using his speed.

 

[senri]

Hands on him? Flash is a fucking metahuman. He could probably toss Arrow around without even using his speed.

well at this point the show will nerf him, so the battle between him and Green Arrow will be more interesting. I like how they are handling his abilities because when Barry eventually becomes the master, the budget of the show can not handle his awesomeness.

 

[The Diplomat]

I don't understand why they treated the guy like he was shot in the chest, when it was an arm injury.

 

[surgeyou1]

I don't understand why they treated the guy like he was shot in the chest, when it was an arm injury.

You can bleed out pretty fast if you get hit on a major artery.

 

[justblaze717]

Hands on him? Flash is a fucking metahuman. He could probably toss Arrow around without even using his speed.

Flash has gotten his ass beat every show now.

I admit im only on season 1 of arrow but he's a better fighter then Flash by far.

 

[surgeyou1]

Flash has gotten his ass beat every show now.

I admit im only on season 1 of arrow but he's a better fighter then Flash by far.

Thats because he is fighting other mutants instead of fucking Old Man Merlyn.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

well at this point the show will nerf him, so the battle between him and Green Arrow will be more interesting. I like how they are handling his abilities because when Barry eventually becomes the master, the budget of the show can not handle his awesomeness.

Yep. The show already nerfs Flash by being tagged by blows or blasts that he could have easily avoided when using super-speed. Based on the Arrow vs. Flash crossover trailer, Arrow gets the better of Flash by being sneaky (and Flash being sloppy) with using explosive arrows.

 

[Thai Otoshi]

I don't understand why they treated the guy like he was shot in the chest, when it was an arm injury.

My friend, you've unfortunately been conditioned by tv and movies that any injuries not at center mass ain't no thang, when in truth:

• getting shot in the shoulder would be an ortho doctor's nightmare (good luck ever getting full function of that arm again)
• getting shot or cut in the leg, and subsequently the femoral artery, would have you bleed out just as quickly as getting one of your carotid's severed
• removing bullets on the battlefield, after you've been shot, is a HORRIBLE idea as you'll likely do more damage sifting around trying to find it than you would have just leaving it alone, not to mention the infection risk of doing such an action

 

[Siderealmotion]

The end part with Flash and Iris was lame with flash promising to always be there to save her.

Rest of the episode was great. Seems he's got ramped up powers now based on the blood sample. Need to see how fast he can go now. Basically he out ran lightning last night. I imagine that was slightly faster than the previous record of his speed of Mach 1.1

To outrun lightning, he'd need to surpass ~1/3 of light speed, rounding down he was going at least Mach 294. A bit of a bump!

 

[MaveDeltzer]

So, anybody with more comics knowledge than me: did the name of the computer give away anything about Wells' identity? I thought it was "Gideon" but when I searched last night I didn't see anything that really seemed to fit.

EDIT: just saw an interesting theory that Wells might be the New God Metron. If they really do go with something that far out there I'd be surprised, but it could be awesome.

8:42

 

[senri]

To outrun lightning, he'd need to surpass ~1/3 of light speed, rounding down he was going at least Mach 294. A bit of a bump!

Yeah his power level is not over 9000 yet. When Barry really figures out what he is capable of, his powers will become ridiculous, like having the ability to outrun death. Only ones who can challenge him other then the reverse flash family are the top justice league characters but even they have to use their wits. The whole speed family is a force and are truly feared by the most powerful of villains like super boy prime.

He has no real limit persay to his powers either and can defeat many metahumans and other entities, however the more he taps into the speed force the more unstable he becomes, both mentally and physically at an molecular level, in a sense his greatest strength can lead to his own destruction.

 

[devante]

Yep. The show already nerfs Flash by being tagged by blows or blasts that he could have easily avoided when using super-speed. Based on the Arrow vs. Flash crossover trailer, Arrow gets the better of Flash by being sneaky (and Flash being sloppy) with using explosive arrows.

Isnt that always the theme with superpowered guys facing non powered guys...the powered guy always gets sloppy because of the physical advantages they have; as a result giving their opp chances to have success against them.

Its not just consistent with characters its consistent with real life...how many times have u seen a far superior fighter be defeated or pushed by a lesser opponent because that guy was prepared and the other wasn't..or a Guy showboating in a combat sport and getting beat or showboating in a football or basketball game and get beat. Deion Sanders got run down by a punter when he slowed up a little to show boat...mugsy vogues blocked Patrick Ewing...top college teams have been upset all based on will prep effort.

So when non powered heroes win or can stalemate guys its hardly outside of the stretch of reality...

As far as how he him losing to metastasis most of these guys have been professional killers or crazy or tough guys...Barry doesn't even know how to fight. Emotions or self doubt can impact his ability to react properly.

To be honest I think they have presented his powers and abilities fairly well..in context with him being a guy who was never a fighter..not a tactician or strategist and wants to help/not fight people.

Not to mention aguy who is vulnerable to everything regular people are...even with his power level he is very vulnerable..

 

[justblaze717]

Thats because he is fighting other mutants instead of fucking Old Man Merlyn.

I think Arrow could have beaten all those guys so far. He's good with weapons and has good prep time. I admit Flash is nerfed right now, still learning how to use his powers.

 

[Garnett Silk]

I think Arrow could have beaten all those guys so far. He's good with weapons and has good prep time. I admit Flash is nerfed right now, still learning how to use his powers.

Arrow doesn't beat Mist, Girder, or plastique..... give all the prep time he needs....he STILL loses....

 

[The Diplomat]

Isnt that always the theme with superpowered guys facing non powered guys...the powered guy always gets sloppy because of the physical advantages they have; as a result giving their opp chances to have success against them.

Its not just consistent with characters its consistent with real life...how many times have u seen a far superior fighter be defeated or pushed by a lesser opponent because that guy was prepared and the other wasn't..or a Guy showboating in a combat sport and getting beat or showboating in a football or basketball game and get beat. Deion Sanders got run down by a punter when he slowed up a little to show boat...mugsy vogues blocked Patrick Ewing...top college teams have been upset all based on will prep effort.

So when non powered heroes win or can stalemate guys its hardly outside of the stretch of reality...

As far as how he him losing to metastasis most of these guys have been professional killers or crazy or tough guys...Barry doesn't even know how to fight. Emotions or self doubt can impact his ability to react properly.

To be honest I think they have presented his powers and abilities fairly well..in context with him being a guy who was never a fighter..not a tactician or strategist and wants to help/not fight people.

Not to mention aguy who is vulnerable to everything regular people are...even with his power level he is very vulnerable..

That's one thing I think they have going for them in the beginning. Allen isn't a fighter, he wasn't trained overseas over five years like Arrow was. He's a quirky, awkward and clumsy nerd who gets bullied and beat up his whole life. When he gets his powers, it doesn't automatically give him the ability to strategise. I know his muscles and health regen, but he's still scrawny compared to Quill. He's just now learning how to use his abilities, and messes up almost every time. I'm sure it will take some time for him to really get there.

My friend, you've unfortunately been conditioned by tv and movies that any injuries not at center mass ain't no thang, when in truth:

• getting shot in the shoulder would be an ortho doctor's nightmare (good luck ever getting full function of that arm again)
• getting shot or cut in the leg, and subsequently the femoral artery, would have you bleed out just as quickly as getting one of your carotid's severed
• removing bullets on the battlefield, after you've been shot, is a HORRIBLE idea as you'll likely do more damage sifting around trying to find it than you would have just leaving it alone, not to mention the infection risk of doing such an action

Thanks for explaining.

 

[devante]

Arrow doesn't beat Mist, Girder, or plastique..... give all the prep time he needs....he STILL loses....

Arrow could beat plastique ...use arrow laced with poison or sedative or just kill her...captain cold...same as plastique...multiplex same as plastique and captain cold.

He could defeat the mist the same way as I stated with the others...as long as he didn't fight him head on; he could sneak up and use a poison..sedative or shock arrow..or just a normal arrow to kill him.
He just couldn't beat him head to head...but fighting smart..yeah

At this stage I think merlyn or deathstroke would defeat Barry.just outsmarts him and kill him..head to head no. Sneak attacks..poison ...arrows..knives..etc.

Not saying flash couldn't beat them...but they could beat the flash..the only guy the flash hasn't beat is a non metahuman who out smarted him.

Girder would be a problem for olliver...but there are ways around him too...reverse flash and zoom are problems for him due to power level and being psychos

Barry being a nice guy who doesn't want to ko or hurt people is at a disadvantage.