The fight that defined GSP

False. The second Koscheck fight was after this which was a striking clinic by GSP. He also kept standing in the Shields fight and stood with Ping a good amount of the fight

LOL cmon man. Jabbing a one eyed kos who was essentially a sloppy bar room brawler at that point was a "Striking clinic'? Standing toe to toe with jake sheilds is courageous? cmon man this is just nonsense.
 
GSP isn’t my favorite.

But your post is completely thoughtless and off base.
GSP gives a later, look back interview where he explains he was physically ill, and mentally he did not want to fight that night.

But social media will hit the roast button to keep the myth alive of some deeper martial inference.<Oku04>
 
GSP thought he was a solid striker, he also thought Matt Serra was a big can and decided he will play around for a round, to test his striking skills. He didn't go for a single take down, he thought this fight is too easy and a good opportunity to test his striking skills, maybe get a nice KO highlight.
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Commentator goes on about Ray Longo best striking coach in world... lol. Serra was a hugely muscled, big strong guy who could throw a bomb. GSP was boxing horribly... courtesy of Tri-Star. So, so much wrong with this fight, not with GSP pushed into a fight he was nor ready for... where was savior Firas????<Oku04>



He never fought on his feet again.
MMA striking ain't what it's cracked up to be. Wise move then.<{1-8}>

This was the last time he played the striker. In the rematch he would take Serra down in the first 2 seconds and repeatedly take him down when Serra stood up.
This was sweet revenge... and masterfully done by GSP.
This was the fight that turned GSP into the ufc wrestling control freak and according to many the most boring ufc champ to this day with 0 finishes.
Suit up & glove up... we all can see that the UFC clearly needs you...<{1-9}>
 
LOL cmon man. Jabbing a one eyed kos who was essentially a sloppy bar room brawler at that point was a "Striking clinic'? Standing toe to toe with jake sheilds is courageous? cmon man this is just nonsense.

You talk like Koscheck went into the fight with one eye. Did I miss something? I thought GSP battered his eyehole into that state.
 
You talk like Koscheck went into the fight with one eye. Did I miss something? I thought GSP battered his eyehole into that state.

bjpenngoat doesn’t watch fights.

He thinks Koscheck came into the GSP fight with a broken face
 
You talk like Koscheck went into the fight with one eye. Did I miss something? I thought GSP battered his eyehole into that state.

GSP beat him up so bad, he should have done better. That's the point.

Example:
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It's easy to knock out Koscheck, if you try. It has nothing to do with Koscheck, feeling confident, throwing a stupid punch, and walking into Woodley's obvious bait and entire game plan, other, more intelligent fighters have completely neutralized since.

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This guy, was clearly willing to do everything he had to do to win. He wasn't gunshy. He didn't call this the worse pain of his life. He wasn't afraid to take risks. Look at his face. It's obvious, without watching, this guy put his life on the line and willing to do anything. GSP just didn't finish him, cuz he sucks. There first fight was a close 2-1 wrestling match, it's obvious GSP isn't THAT great. He beats up guys so easily, he should do better than he did.
 
GSP beat him up so bad, he should have done better. That's the point.

Example:
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It's easy to knock out Koscheck, if you try. It has nothing to do with Koscheck, feeling confident, throwing a stupid punch, and walking into Woodley's obvious bait and entire game plan, other, more intelligent fighters have completely neutralized since.

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This guy, was clearly willing to do everything he had to do to win. He wasn't gunshy. He didn't call this the worse pain of his life. He wasn't afraid to risks. Look at his face. It's obvious, without watching, this guy put his life on the line and willing to do anything. GSP just didn't finish him, cuz he sucks. There first fight was a close 2-1 wrestling match, it's obvious GSP isn't that good. He beats up guys so easily, he should do better than he is.

sideways vulva-eyed
 
All great fighters lose.

Andersons loss to Ryo was terrible, but it was not as bad as getting KO'd by a fighter in a weight class below you in a title fight.

Losing to Matt Hughes with 1 second left in the very first round by submission is not a horrible loss. Its friggin matt hughes an all time legend, however when he finally beat him those wins do not count towards gsp as much as that first loss counts against him because both Matt and Gsp were both in their primes. When he finally beat Hughes, Matt was way past prime and clsoing in on 40.

A lot of dissecting these resumes is about context.

If Serra is one weight class lower than GSP, then Chonan is 2 weight classes lower than Silva.

And 33 is closing on 40 now? :rolleyes:
 
All great fighters lose.

Andersons loss to Ryo was terrible, but it was not as bad as getting KO'd by a fighter in a weight class below you in a title fight.

Losing to Matt Hughes with 1 second left in the very first round by submission is not a horrible loss. Its friggin matt hughes an all time legend, however when he finally beat him those wins do not count towards gsp as much as that first loss counts against him because both Matt and Gsp were both in their primes. When he finally beat Hughes, Matt was way past prime and clsoing in on 40.

A lot of dissecting these resumes is about context.

Stop with your "facts". Go back to straight numpty. You were doing better with that. Not good. Not good by any means but better than this. This is just embarrassing.
 
GSP beat him up so bad, he should have done better. That's the point.

Example:
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It's easy to knock out Koscheck, if you try. It has nothing to do with Koscheck, feeling confident, throwing a stupid punch, and walking into Woodley's obvious bait and entire game plan, other, more intelligent fighters have completely neutralized since.

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This guy, was clearly willing to do everything he had to do to win. He wasn't gunshy. He didn't call this the worse pain of his life. He wasn't afraid to take risks. Look at his face. It's obvious, without watching, this guy put his life on the line and willing to do anything. GSP just didn't finish him, cuz he sucks. There first fight was a close 2-1 wrestling match, it's obvious GSP isn't THAT great. He beats up guys so easily, he should do better than he did.
Drinking tonight?
 
And these GSP bashing threads are always made by the same 5 accounts; a ragtag bunch of former BJ Penn nuthuggers, and Anderson Silva fanboys who just can't accept that most people tend to rank GSP a bit higher than him P4P.

About the "most pathetic fanbase" thing, since it's what every single MMA fanbase ever has been called by sherdoggers, it doesn't mean much.
BJ Penn's hardcore nuthuggers became a running joke back in the days, and ever since this fanbase war has kept going...

It's like people from the right and the left calling each others triggered snowflakes, it doesn't mean anything anymore at this point.
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The fight that defined GSP for me was the 3rd Hughes one... it really showed how much St-Pierre had evolved, beating his old rival, the former WW king, in a way that made Hughes look like he didn't belong in the cage with his anymore.
The second BJ Penn fight was also a beautiful beatdown, the kind that says "no need for a 3rd one"; making BJ quit on the stool after all the shit he had talked, that was such a pure, clean high.

Special mention for the Bisping fight; GSP put his legacy on the line with everything to lose, to move up in weight and fight the champion there, who had just beaten Anderson, Rockhold and Hendo.
Finished the bigger brit in exciting fashion, now that reminded me why GSP is such a legend.
(in my headcanon, Fedor and GSP are tied for the GOAT spot, 2 very special warriors)



Tss tss tss
Reminds me of when BJ Penn eye-poked GSP in their first fight
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George's eye was completely fucked, he saw double and all.

Between eye poker and steroid cheats, poor Georges had his hands full during his reign.
Looked like a solid Penn Jab
 
What a fight.. I was literally thinking at the time “wow, Georges must have read one of my posts about his fights being boring”. He showed a killer instinct in that one I didn’t even know he had.

He wasn’t defending his belt. He was going after one. It’s a whole different ball game. If you want to beat a champion, you have to go take it. Either by finish, or an overwhelming decision so the judges don’t screw you.

Apart from the elbows that cut him open. GSP fought a really good fight. And when he dropped Bisping, he went into pure finish mode.

Read the pbp thread. It was exciting as hell. Because the anti-GSP crowd was sure he was done after round 2.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/bisping-vs-gsp-middleweight-title.3649249/
 
LOL cmon man. Jabbing a one eyed kos who was essentially a sloppy bar room brawler at that point was a "Striking clinic'? Standing toe to toe with jake Shields is “courageous”. cmon man this is just nonsense.
He put in a striking clinic again Kos that 2nd fight. Why do you think he had only 1 good eye? It wasn’t pink eye. I never said standing toe to toe with Shields is “courageous”. You said that, not me.

this is What TS said that I was responding to:
“He never fought on his feet again. This was the last time he played the striker.”

I pointed out this is wrong, which it is.
 
The problem that georges has is that he doesnt have a legacy cementing fight that 100 years from now people will still watch. There is literally zero hl reel stuff for posterity and to capture future generation imaginations.

Think about the anderson, fedor and bones hl reels. In 100 years from now fight historians will reference some of their finishes and classic fights with other legends. Gsp will not have his fights dissected and studied. He will be be forgotton because he just didnt deliver excitement and finishes.

what about the fight where he beat the shit out of prime BJ Penn so badly that BJ quit on the stool and called for his mommy to come help him? Imagine getting your ass kicked and then having your fucking mom come and defend you at a hearing
 
what about the fight where he beat the shit out of prime BJ Penn so badly that BJ quit on the stool and called for his mommy to come help him? Imagine getting your ass kicked and then having your fucking mom come and defend you at a hearing

So when sometimes I sidebar and describe the worst of sherdog, this is absolutely representative of that.

Fighting a lw is not a legacy defining fight. Actually I take that back, fighting a lw will define your legacy. Losing to Matt Serra trumps anything you can throw at me.
 
So when sometimes I sidebar and describe the worst of sherdog, this is absolutely representative of that.

Fighting a lw is not a legacy defining fight. Actually I take that back, fighting a lw will define your legacy. Losing to Matt Serra trumps anything you can throw at me.

Prime BJ Penn quit on the stool against GSP and all the crybaby nonsense you post here will never change that.
 
People using Bisping to highlight his striking are doing gsp a disservice. Bisping was almost outstruke in his previous outing by a 45 year old post trt hendo. Plus Bisping was 40, had one and a bad rib. You can look to other legendary strikers like koscheck, Serra & Hendricks to prove gsp was one of the best strikers. Those three are clearly better on the feet than current wrestler based specialists like Wonderboy, Lawler, Till & Masvidal. Can you imagine how the previous three would do against the current? Wonder boy would be shooting for takedowns across the cage against the rangey sera or K1 hendricks & let's not talk about the lightening fast two handed combinations of Koscheck (yet again proving the de-evolution of mma). The current crop have nothing on those three when it comes to stand up.
 
Hughes. Penn 2. Fitch. Alves. Condit

Why is Hughes a legendary win when in his prime Hughes beat gsp. Hughes was way past prime when gsp was finally able to beat him.

Penn 2 was against a lw not a ww.

Fitch is a great win I think his career is way underrated.

Alves? Are you kidding me? This guy is a .500 career fighter.

Condit is a good win but I honestly feel Condits career is overrated.
 
Other than condit gsp faced some.of the worst strikers in any era.

Serra
Hughes
Sheilds
Hendricks
Kos
Fitch

Hardy was probabky an average striker
Alves while massively overrated here because of his pecs, was an average striker with very good leg kicks
Nick diaz is probably an average stiker overall taking his entire game into account

Condit is the only high level striker he faced and almost got mirko'd before he took it to the ground.
 
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