Law The DOGE JIG is almost up

BFoe said:
Clinton did work with republicans on that, that claim is true. Clinton got authorization from Congress for the downsizing he did.
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You don’t remember the fighting at the time. He didn’t go along he lost to newt Gingrich and the contract with America. He was not on board with this.
 
cincymma79 said:
You don’t remember the fighting at the time. He didn’t go along he lost to newt Gingrich and the contract with America. He was not on board with this.
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What do you mean Clinton wasn’t on board with this? It was his commission that was looking at reducing government size and waste, he established it and put Al Gore in charge of it. Here are Clinton’s remarks when he announced it:


I’ll quote from another source, which I’ll link down below.

“The Clinton administration also worked with Congress to authorize $25,000 buyouts for federal workers and ended up eliminating…more than 400,000 federal positions between 1993 and 2000 through a combination of voluntary departures, attrition and a relatively small number of layoffs.”
Btw the next paragraph in the article has a lesson for DOGE: it says those cuts didn’t really save money because the govt had to contract out to people to do the work of the workers who were let go. DOGE could’ve learned from that mistake but didn’t.

apnews.com

Trump and Musk aren't the first to make deep cuts. Clinton-era Reinventing Government saved billions

When Bill Clinton came to Washington as president, his Democratic administration used corporate know-how and the new internet to streamline the federal bureaucracy as part of the “Reinventing Government” push.
apnews.com apnews.com

The article below is a really good overall summary of the commission worked and what they did. Regarding their various recommendations, it says this:

“For those requiring Presidential or congressional action, President Clinton signed 46 directives and Congress passed and the President signed over 85 laws.”


Earlier ITT, @PainIsLIfe said “I didn’t see people taking Clinton to court claiming he didn’t have the power to do these things,” and this is the reason why. Clinton didn’t bypass Congess illegally like Trump is.

Did the GOP like Clinton? Of course not, and yes, they fought like crazy. I think Clinton won the war with Gingrich and congessional republicans personally, when Republicans caused the longest govt shutdown in history up to that point and voters cleaned their clocks at the polls (this was back when conservatives voters actually cared about shutdowns, of course).
 
BFoe said:
What do you mean Clinton wasn’t on board with this? It was his commission that was looking at reducing government size and waste, he established it and put Al Gore in charge of it. Here are Clinton’s remarks when he announced it:


I’ll quote from another source, which I’ll link down below.

“The Clinton administration also worked with Congress to authorize $25,000 buyouts for federal workers and ended up eliminating…more than 400,000 federal positions between 1993 and 2000 through a combination of voluntary departures, attrition and a relatively small number of layoffs.”
Btw the next paragraph in the article has a lesson for DOGE: it says those cuts didn’t really save money because the govt had to contract out to people to do the work of the workers who were let go. DOGE could’ve learned from that mistake but didn’t.

apnews.com

Trump and Musk aren't the first to make deep cuts. Clinton-era Reinventing Government saved billions

When Bill Clinton came to Washington as president, his Democratic administration used corporate know-how and the new internet to streamline the federal bureaucracy as part of the “Reinventing Government” push.
apnews.com apnews.com

The article below is a really good overall summary of the commission worked and what they did. Regarding their various recommendations, it says this:

“For those requiring Presidential or congressional action, President Clinton signed 46 directives and Congress passed and the President signed over 85 laws.”


Earlier ITT, @PainIsLIfe said “I didn’t see people taking Clinton to court claiming he didn’t have the power to do these things,” and this is the reason why. Clinton didn’t bypass Congess illegally like Trump is.

Did the GOP like Clinton? Of course not, and yes, they fought like crazy. I think Clinton won the war with Gingrich and congessional republicans personally, when Republicans caused the longest govt shutdown in history up to that point and voters cleaned their clocks at the polls (this was back when conservatives voters actually cared about shutdowns, of course).
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Contractors don’t get pensions and the like from us. But your source doesn’t capture this accurately and you’re not going to accept any argument and this isn’t really worth my time. Anyone who actually wants to read up can do so.
 
BFoe said:
This has to be one of the most blatant smash and grab operations I’ve ever seen.
DOGE came in, sent a bunch of people to the unemployment line, got access to a shitload of our personal info and most sensitive government info, barely saved us a god damn penny, and walked right out the door <lol>

Promised 2 trillion in savings, only got 150 billion or so, but didn’t take into account the value of the labor the federal workforce was hired to complete. This is projected to cost us around 135 billion, making their total savings to us negligible if it exists at all.

www.yahoo.com

DOGE’s mass federal workforce cuts may cost taxpayers $135 billion this fiscal year alone

Elon Musk’s efforts to slash federal spending are costing the government in lost productivity and tax revenue, workforce and policy experts claim.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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Dep nds on if you believe legacy media propaganda.

Did you take the 'safe and effective' shot that wasn't a vaccine? That was neither safe or effective? LoL
 
DOGE is doing god's work. Elon and BigBalls should be nominated for a presidential medal of freedom.
 
BFoe said:
This has to be one of the most blatant smash and grab operations I’ve ever seen.
DOGE came in, sent a bunch of people to the unemployment line, got access to a shitload of our personal info and most sensitive government info, barely saved us a god damn penny, and walked right out the door <lol>

Promised 2 trillion in savings, only got 150 billion or so, but didn’t take into account the value of the labor the federal workforce was hired to complete. This is projected to cost us around 135 billion, making their total savings to us negligible if it exists at all.

www.yahoo.com

DOGE’s mass federal workforce cuts may cost taxpayers $135 billion this fiscal year alone

Elon Musk’s efforts to slash federal spending are costing the government in lost productivity and tax revenue, workforce and policy experts claim.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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*32.5 billion
 
Interesting reads from people at DOGE


Seems like they didnt accomplish anything.


Former DOGE engineer says federal waste and fraud were 'relatively nonexistent'​




Ex-DOGE staffer: ‘I have no idea’ who was in charge​

www.pbs.org

Ex-DOGE staffer: 'I have no idea' who was in charge

Billionaire Elon Musk has returned to his business ventures after leaving the White House and his role with the so-called Department of Government Efficiency. During Musk’s tenure in the Trump administration, DOGE was tasked with gutting the federal workforce and publicizing cost-cutting...
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org



Also Sahil created Gumroad! For any programmer/geeks interested.

Pretty damn impressive
 
ermac88 said:
Interesting reads from people at DOGE


Seems like they didnt accomplish anything.


Former DOGE engineer says federal waste and fraud were 'relatively nonexistent'​




Ex-DOGE staffer: ‘I have no idea’ who was in charge​

www.pbs.org

Ex-DOGE staffer: 'I have no idea' who was in charge

Billionaire Elon Musk has returned to his business ventures after leaving the White House and his role with the so-called Department of Government Efficiency. During Musk’s tenure in the Trump administration, DOGE was tasked with gutting the federal workforce and publicizing cost-cutting...
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org



Also Sahil created Gumroad! For any programmer/geeks interested.

Pretty damn impressive
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The amounts cut are public, how can you be dumb enough to fall for this ?
 
CantCucktheTuck said:
DOGE is doing god's work. Elon and BigBalls should be nominated for a presidential medal of freedom.
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You know how every family has that one lady in it who refers to herself as the "wacky" or "crazy," Aunt? But then every example she gives of her being wacky is something really lame, like she went to an emo concert with her 13-year old niece on a school night.

You remind me of her.
 
Musk should be banished to India to live among his favorite hirees.
 
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