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International The clock is ticking for Iran (war looming?)

Perhaps, but the US also wouldn't or would be far less inclined to try to bomb them if they had nukes. I don't trust Iran's regime but the US is a far larger threat to world security. I'd rather see a deal reached than war but we're the reason why we don't have a deal with them.
The U.S. could strike their capabilities in a quick minute, nukes or not. They might blow themselves up trying to attack us.
 
Perhaps, but the US also wouldn't or would be far less inclined to try to bomb them if they had nukes. I don't trust Iran's regime but the US is a far larger threat to world security. I'd rather see a deal reached than war but we're the reason why we don't have a deal with them.

Iran would be far more inclined to use nukes if they actually had them. Nice logic.
 
The U.S. could strike their capabilities in a quick minute, nukes or not. They might blow themselves up trying to attack us.
Perhaps, I don't know the logistics of the Iranian military capabilities enough to say, however I doubt the US would be as quick on the draw if they had them.

Iran would be far more inclined to use nukes if they actually had them. Nice logic.
If someone tried to bomb or invade them then yes. Nukes are a deterrent. The US has only itself to blame for this situation. We had a deal, we ripped it up and refused to get back into it after ripping it up, then we complain. You can't talk around that nor us arming Iran's enemies after overthrowing their government.
 
If someone tried to bomb or invade them then yes. Nukes are a deterrent. The US has only itself to blame for this situation.

For most countries, yes. They are a deterrent.

I don’t trust a theocracy to be responsible with reality shattering weapons. They could literally destroy the world on a whim.

No thanks.
 
For most countries, yes. They are a deterrent.

I don’t trust a theocracy to be responsible with reality shattering weapons. They could literally destroy the world on a whim.

No thanks.
Then the US shouldn't have done all the bullshit it's done to them. North Korea and Israel have nukes, I'm not sure how much worse Iran could be and I'd rather not find out but I do not want our government bombing nor invading them. We set them up to fail, probably to put regime change on the table.

What are they supposed to do after all that the US has done to them? They were following the deal that Trump ripped up. If he wants a deal, maybe he shouldn't have fucking ripped up the deal they were abiding by.
 
Then the US shouldn't have done all the bullshit it's done to them. North Korea and Israel have nukes, I'm not sure how much worse Iran could be and I'd rather not find out but I do not want our government bombing nor invading them. We set them up to fail, probably to put regime change on the table.

What are they supposed to do after all that the US has done to them? They were following the deal that Trump ripped up. If he wants a deal, maybe he shouldn't have fucking ripped up the deal they were abiding by.

I agree he shouldn’t have. I want a new one ASAP.

I don’t want to find out either. I also don’t want war.

Trump needs to get it done.
 
For most countries, yes. They are a deterrent.

I don’t trust a theocracy to be responsible with reality shattering weapons. They could literally destroy the world on a whim.

No thanks.
Iran having a bomb doesn't make them capable of destroying the world. I'm with you. I don't want them to have that. But, it's not like they could wreak much havoc outside their own sphere.
 
Iran having a bomb doesn't make them capable of destroying the world. I'm with you. I don't want them to have that. But, it's not like they could wreak much havoc outside their own sphere.

A bomb, sure. But if they can make one, they can make many over time. It doesn’t have to be immediate, it could take years. Decades even.

It’s not worth the risk. All it takes is one extreme radical with suicidal delusions. Until they change their government they shouldn’t have one.

I don’t even care what religion it is - any religious theocracy should not have these weapons. One crazy is all it takes to light the wick of humanity’s destruction.
 
A bomb, sure. But if they can make one, they can make many over time. It doesn’t have to be immediate, it could take years. Decades even.

It’s not worth the risk. All it takes is one extreme radical with suicidal delusions. Until they change their government they shouldn’t have one.

I don’t even care what religion it is - any religious theocracy should not have these weapons. One crazy is all it takes to light the wick of humanity’s destruction.
It's just so far removed from reality that they could be at a level in my lifetime to fuck shit up. Keep slapping them down. Drop a few bombs on strategic sites. Be done with it. This isn't a big deal.
 
It's just so far removed from reality that they could be at a level in my lifetime to fuck shit up. Keep slapping them down. Drop a few bombs on strategic sites. Be done with it. This isn't a big deal.

Well yes that is why I’ve been saying we should actively be preventing progress if there is no deal.

I don’t want them to bomb Iran - but if it needs to happen because there is no deal, that is the last resort.
 
Well yes that is why I’ve been saying we should actively be preventing progress if there is no deal.

I don’t want them to bomb Iran - but if it needs to happen because there is no deal, that is the last resort.
Some Iranian factories need some bombs IMO. Make sure it's during non-working hours. Jerk a knot in their necks.
 
This is kind of retarded. Actually totally retarded.
Do you think War on Terror is a better idea? Or wait till a theocratic regime acquires nukes....

We already put a nuclear deal put in motion before. I don't think just tendering sanctions will suffice. We fought Iraq for mostly Israel's benefit in hindsight. We wasted much money and resources into that war and lost several Americans in the process at the cost of breeding ISIS and driving the Assyrian community to almost extinction there.

It is a stain on our country's legacy and Iraqi peoples lives are ruined with ISIS hopping around there. But hey, Israel has one less rival in the region. We let them get away and fund them to illegally occupy land, install settlements and commit war crimes. The least that they could do is maybe take one for the team and broker a deal with Iran where they both drop nuclear developement.
 
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The interests of Israel are not the interests of the American people. If Israel wants to do something about Iran, let them do it. Israel and powerful Zionists Jews have too much influence over our government, to our detriment.

Pretty obvious Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal for Israel's benefit.
 
The U.S. could strike their capabilities in a quick minute, nukes or not. They might blow themselves up trying to attack us.
You are so confident?
With Taliban didn't managed...

Iran is different game.
They had long war vs Iraq ....Iraq had SCUD missiles and aviation.

Therefore Iran had concentrated and invested damn a lot in deep underground tunnels, bunkers and facilities. Plus they does have more developed mining industry than Iraq had or North Korea. So again more different tunnels etc.

They also aren't Ukraine. In 1980 ies they already had powerful opponent in Iraq, therefore obiviously started to take in account possible missiles and aviation attacks.

Ues, some factories etc might strike, after this what ?
They obiviously also does have more workforce than North Korea and Ukr together does have.
Plus fanatics.......sanctions 40 plus years in row didn't had helped ....

With Kim U.S appeared to be unable to deal....U.N too appeared helpless. Iran is larger than North Korea.
 
Nobody really cares if Iran has nuclear capability.

But with a proven track record of giving weapons to state and non-state actors they have shown why they cannot be trusted to develop those weapons. It isn't Iran having them we worry about. It is hamas or the houthis.

I say it again - this is an Israeli problem. Not an American one.
It would be nice if that were true but we both know tue government isn't going to let Israel get nuked or invaded. Their problems usually end up being out problems for as long as I've been alive.
 
What right is it of ours to decide whether or not Iran has a right to develop nuclear weapons? They are a sovereign nation.
Did you just get teleported here out of a Saturday morning cartoon lmao. They're known allies of terrorists and others with interests counter to our own. Of course we're going to suppress their military capability if we can.
 
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