International The clock is ticking for Iran (war looming?)

[Crazy Source]

Nobody really cares if Iran has nuclear capability.

But with a proven track record of giving weapons to state and non-state actors they have shown why they cannot be trusted to develop those weapons. It isn't Iran having them we worry about. It is hamas or the houthis.

I say it again - this is an Israeli problem. Not an American one.

Just spit out my beer......we agree. We give Israel plenty of support through $ and arms sales. Let them take care of their back yard. Everybody knows that if it gets too rough the U.S. will plop some balls down, but there is no reason the U.S. has to actively be involved.

 

[Trabaho]

Basically the USA is Israels pitbull ?

 

[Mike Hagger]

I laugh.
Where I had posted that U.S should send Ukr F-35? Where? When?

For F-35 there are a lot of orders signed to sell for real money...not for Ukr.

Any a/c is a waste of resources for Ukraine… see Russian surface to air. Look at how Russia implements CAS.. Its not as effective as surface to ground rockets and is more riskey. So not really in the game.

And if you really think the HIMARs was not an absolute game changer your sources are dogshit.

America authorizing the use of rockets within Russian terorrity was a huge step in escalation. Beyond previous cold war error precedence. 100%.

I'm saying you think America is being a pussy with Ukraine with Taiwan with SK then what you're asking for is literal WW3 to do more.

 

[The XL]

The interests of Israel are not the interests of the American people. If Israel wants to do something about Iran, let them do it. Israel and powerful Zionists Jews have too much influence over our government, to our detriment.

 

[The XL]

I am fine with countries having nukes... IF they are not a crazy theocracy. That is my view on Iran.

If they didn't constantly threaten the west and were not ruled (literally called a supreme leader LOL) by a religious cleric who was an extremist, I think it could be considered.

Crazy religious fanatics should never have access to weapons that could destroy the Earth.

What right is it of ours to decide whether or not Iran has a right to develop nuclear weapons? They are a sovereign nation.

 

[evergreenrider]

It's the last remaining country to take out. Greater Israel initiative is in full swing. Soon, a new canal will be built with the newly acquired land. Bypassing the Suez. Now you see why the shipping lanes is such a hot topic currently.

 

[evergreenrider]

On one hand, we really don't need another fucking war.

On the other hand, maybe, just maybe, the US and Israel will stop being a bunch of warmongering shitheads for a while if they underestimate Iran and get humiliated hard enough.

The "Samson Option" refers to a deterrence strategy employed by Israel, where nuclear weapons are used as a last resort against an enemy that has threatened Israel's existence.

While I appreciate your optimism, it is misplaced.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- If i was Iran, i would never trust US and Israel to hold their end of the bargain!

 

[Mike Hagger]

- If i was Iran, i would never trust US and Israel to hold their end of the bargain!

I'd say that would extend both ways. I think that's why this situation is very contentious. With a country like Russia, an agreement would likely be upheld.

 

[deviake]

I am fine with countries having nukes... IF they are not a crazy theocracy. That is my view on Iran.

If they didn't constantly threaten the west and were not ruled (literally called a supreme leader LOL) by a religious cleric who was an extremist, I think it could be considered.

Crazy religious fanatics should never have access to weapons that could destroy the Earth.

The US helped overthrow their government in 1953, armed and supported Sadam, war mongered with them, made a deal with them, tore the deal up, refused to get back into the deal, supports the genocidal ethnostate Israel who starts shit with everyone, then threatened Iran again. Iran didn't start the fire.

 

[USA!USA!]

The US helped overthrow their government in 1953, armed and supported Sadam, war mongered with them, made a deal with them, tore the deal up, refused to get back into the deal, supports the genocidal ethnostate Israel who starts shit with everyone, then threatened Iran again. Iran didn't start the fire.

It doesn't matter at this point if they started it or not. It's their intentions that matter.

I am in no way defending Israel here either. I haven't even mentioned them in any of my posts.

I just do not believe it is in the best interest of the United States to allow the Iran of today to have nuclear weapons. I don't think it is in anyone's interest but Iran's.

 

[USA!USA!]

What right is it of ours to decide whether or not Iran has a right to develop nuclear weapons? They are a sovereign nation.

Since Iran is theocracy run by powerful clerical figures who could decide to blow up the world on a whim due to their religion, it should fucking matter.

 

[deviake]

It doesn't matter at this point if they started it or not. It's their intentions that matter.

I am in no way defending Israel here either. I haven't even mentioned them in any of my posts.

I just do not believe it is in the best interest of the United States to allow the Iran of today to have nuclear weapons. I don't think it is in anyone's interest but Iran's.

Israel and the US are connected, that's why I mentioned them.

Of course it's not in the US interest. The US wouldn't invade them if they had nukes. That's probably why they want them. The US has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted.

 

[Crazy Source]

It doesn't matter at this point if they started it or not. It's their intentions that matter.

I am in no way defending Israel here either. I haven't even mentioned them in any of my posts.

I just do not believe it is in the best interest of the United States to allow the Iran of today to have nuclear weapons. I don't think it is in anyone's interest but Iran's.

We had an agreement with them that Trump tore up.

 

[USA!USA!]

Israel and the US are connected, that's why I mentioned them.

Of course it's not in the US interest. The US wouldn't invade them if they had nukes. That's probably why they want them. The US has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted.

The US will never invade Iran. There is no reason to and no will to have American's die on the ground to control their country.

Would they bomb the hell out of it? Yes, I believe they would.

I don't want that to happen, but I'd rather that than allow them to go nuclear.

I hope they can reach a deal so there is no violence.

 

[Crazy Source]

Israel and the US are connected, that's why I mentioned them.

Of course it's not in the US interest. The US wouldn't invade them if they had nukes. That's probably why they want them. The US has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted.

If Iran got out of line too bad their shit would be pushed in.

 

[USA!USA!]

We had an agreement with them that Trump tore up.

Yep they need to reach a new one. No one is asking for war. I'm just saying.. I'd never allow them to get nuclear weapons. They are far too radical.

 

[Crazy Source]

Yep they need to reach a new one. No one is asking for war. I'm just saying.. I'd never allow them to get nuclear weapons. They are far too radical.

So give them a bone for not trying to go there. I have a bad feeling about Iran. They aren't like the others. They are organized. We had an agreement with them.

 

[deviake]

The US will never invade Iran. There is no reason to and no will to have American's die on the ground to control their country.

Would they bomb the hell out of it? Yes, I believe they would.

I don't want that to happen, but I'd rather that than allow them to go nuclear.

I hope they can reach a deal so there is no violence.

Perhaps, but the US also wouldn't or would be far less inclined to try to bomb them if they had nukes. I don't trust Iran's regime but the US is a far larger threat to world security. I'd rather see a deal reached than war but we're the reason why we don't have a deal with them.

 

[nonoob]

Trump was the one who killed the Iranian nuclear deal initially.

True, a Barry Hussein koo ran eye ran deal, wink wink.