The childless cannot understand love.

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

That's misogynist. I love my cat

I love your cat too.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

And people with children cannot understand waking up a sunday at 11AM and waking up with zero problems in mind.


BTW... Reynolds is a funny dude.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

A certain kind of love, I guess. Though it is definitely not the greatest love. Find the 100-year-old married couple that have been together for 60+ years. Now that is a love most will never understand. Your kids will eventually go on their own and create something for themselves. Your partner, hopefully, will be the one who is ALWAYS there.

 

[Bornstarch]

I'd use the wife as a shield from the bullets and use the baby as a flail to kill my enemies.

 

[yamahacrasher]

And people with children cannot understand waking up a sunday at 11AM and waking up with zero problems in mind.


BTW... Reynolds is a funny dude.

Pretty sure there was a time that those of us who now have kids, didn't have kids, and indeed know the pleasure of waking up late with no worries. But maybe I'm wrong.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Pretty sure there was a time that those of us who now have kids, didn't have kids, and indeed know the pleasure of waking up late with no worries. But maybe I'm wrong.

I think it goes both ways to be honest.

I know people that you know for sure would not change having children for anything (my parents being one of them)... and then I know people that have children, they love them but even they recommend you stay childless.

Good thing about XXI century is that people are not forced to have children anymore.. so I guess we will not get a shit ton of bad parents who hate their children.

 

[Rob Battisti]

They have really young kids. Most adult men would sacrifice themselves to save a stranger's young kids. It doesn't really mean anything

I actually think in that case, people with kids would be less likely to sacrifice themselves because they have their own kids to worry about.

I would both sacrifice my life for my kids and kill for them.

 

[El Chimpo]

I'd kill for my nephews and nieces
I'd protect them with my life

You don't need to have kids to have that sort of love for others

 

[ChosenOne]

There being deficiencies in people doesn't make it a false observation, it just means there are no absolutes, which broadly speaking everyone should be aware of already from rudimentary or childhood life experience.

There can be levels to love independent of the fact that some people are fucked up, or despite the fact that a person can sacrifice themselves for a stranger.

I think you're bringing the superiority angle to it yourself. I know more about sailing because I've sailed. That doesn't make me better than anyone it just makes me better at sailing.

You know more about sailing because you have sailed yes.

There is no logical connection to that and saying "i know more about love because i have kids'.

The latter is a specious connection that does not hold in logical breakdown.

It is a theory you BELIEVE to be true and thus try to assert as some form of truism ('sailors know more about sailing') when it is not.

And yes there are no absolutes, which was my point.

When you are speaking broadly to everyone, as you are in this thread, you cannot say 'parents know love... but non parents do not', as pushing that idea, as you did speaks to absolutes. That is what you did before now admitting there are no absolutes.

So instead understand that parents and non parents are comprised of individuals and amongst those individuals some will 'know love' and some will 'not know love', and those people would exist in BOTH groupings.


If you wanted to say 'i believe as a group people who have had kids generally will understand love better than a similar group of people who have not had kids', no one would or should argue with that as that is just your opinion and the response is 'agree' or 'agree to disagree' and people move on.

Instead you asserted a position that DOES push a superiority angle. Most people would considering 'knowing love' superior to not 'knowing love' in ones lifetime, and you attempt here to attach it solely to people with children. That is not correct.

 

[surgeyou1]

If having kids made parents more loving and caring people than non parents than I'd agree with you. But I've seen nothing that correlates with that.

 

[ChosenOne]

My wife has literally told me (when our kids were smaller) that it was her job to run into the zombie hoard as an obstacle/distraction because I was stronger and faster and could carry the kids to safety better

Your wife...

You...

 

[TeTe]

I'd kill for my nephews and nieces
I'd protect them with my life

You don't need to have kids to have that sort of love for others

Careful, you might upset the people around here that staunchly defend their choices in life.

 

[Meatspin]

What a crock of shit

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

i think it's bullshit. i've seen people throw their kids in trash cans, toilets and doorsteps. i've seen mothers let their kid get mauled by a pitbull because they were too afraid to step in, either because they were frozen or trying to save themselves and the other kid they were holding.

i do not doubt that there ARE people who will defend their kids to the death, but it's not BECAUSE they had kids, they were that kind of person to begin with. because like i said, there's definitely people who don't and won't. besides, i think it's harder to understand the kind of love it takes for someone to die for a complete stranger than it is to die for your own kid. saving your kid is part of your own self preservation, it's YOUR lineage. risking your life for a complete stranger is next level love imo. you don't even know this person but you're willing to go all-in just because they're a fellow human in need. that's deep.

 

[RoastBeast]

What Ryan Reynolds said was tongue in cheek.

The title of this thread reeks of superiority complex.

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

if you want to argue i dont truly love touching myself thats a tough sell buderino

 

[Sobek]

Ah actors, we have so much to learn from them

 

[Fedorgasm]

I won't go so far as to say the childless can't feel love, but when you have a child, it's a certain kind of love that you just can't know until you experience it.

When my son was born the first time I held him I just instantly knew there was literally nothing I wouldn't sacrifice for this kid. It was like a wave that came over me.

I thought it was weird, maybe I was just emotional, but then it happened again when my daughter was born.

Probably some evolutionary thing, but it's very powerful.

 

[Natural Order]

There are different kinds of love. None are more superior, but there is a difference and you generally don’t understand that difference until you have your own. My mom used to tell me this when I was a kid…she was right of course, as I found out when I fathered two myself.

This also isn’t to say millions of parents don’t resent their children and do not display love to them, it’s out there for sure.

 

[billiam]

This sounds like propaganda from single moms trying to justify their life choices. What childless folks don't understand is still going to work in the morning after being up all night cleaning puke because the whole fucking family got norovirus at the same time....so there's that.