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Oliveira beating all the contenders while Islam fought a featherweight twice and is likely to fight Poirier who defends every takedown with a guillotine next. Islam is actually cool tho and I don't even remotely think he's ducking anybody, it's just how it happened to play out. If Oliviera beats Tsarukyan then wins the rematch with Islam that's GOAT shit right there.
 
Conan the K-9 said:


13 minutes full of finishing sequences, from one of the most exciting fighters, if not the most exciting in the UFC history!

Anyone else starting to believe that team Eagle might be a little afraid of Charles at this point? Calling out and trying to fight anyone else or hiding behind happy scales and home territory advantages.
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All I want is for the title to be defended against a top LW. Charles is number 1 in my opinion and making him fight Armen is just dumb.
At this point they may as well give the belt back to Mcgregor.
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
Oliveira beating all the contenders while Islam fought a featherweight twice and is likely to fight Poirier who defends every takedown with a guillotine next. Islam is actually cool tho and I don't even remotely think he's ducking anybody, it's just how it happened to play out. If Oliviera beats Tsarukyan then wins the rematch with Islam that's GOAT shit right there.
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Did you forget the time Islam easily submitted the submission king, Oliveira? I don't know if there is much else to sort out between those two, but if Oliviera can pull off something against Arman greater than DP's legendary performance then maybe he gets the rematch. I'm cool with either fight, but it would be pretty awesome to see if DP has the balls to try to jump guillotine on Islam.
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
Oliveira beating all the contenders while Islam fought a featherweight twice and is likely to fight Poirier who defends every takedown with a guillotine next.
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On one hand you're praising Oliveira for beating all the contenders which includes Poirier, and the other giving Islam no credit for the potential Poirier fight?

You talk as if Volk is some sort of easy layup. The fact that Islam dominated Oliveira and had trouble with Volk suggests full camp Volk very well may be a better LW fighter than any of Oliveira's wins. Unless you buy the "home territory" conspiracies.....
 
Cartiac said:
Did you forget the time Islam easily submitted the submission king, Oliveira? I don't know if there is much else to sort out between those two, but if Oliviera can pull off something against Arman greater than DP's legendary performance then maybe he gets the rematch. I'm cool with either fight, but it would be pretty awesome to see if DP has the balls to try to jump guillotine on Islam.
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It’s quite wild what kind of performances and against who is at the moment required to get the title shot. Two years ago you had to beat short notice Dan Hooker and catchweight Bobby Green. Good that times change.
 
Cartiac said:
Did you forget the time Islam easily submitted the submission king, Oliveira? I don't know if there is much else to sort out between those two, but if Oliviera can pull off something against Arman greater than DP's legendary performance then maybe he gets the rematch. I'm cool with either fight, but it would be pretty awesome to see if DP has the balls to try to jump guillotine on Islam.
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Rematches are only won by the same guy 60% of the time so yeah you can't bank on it going the same way. Poirier is totally undeserving of another TS and should be behind both the winner of Oliveira vs Tsarukyan and the winner of Gaethje vs Max. UFC will give whoever they want a title shot tho as evidenced recently by Chito and Erceg getting title shots.

Also even when the same fighter wins twice it's rarely in the same fashion. Just thinking of random rematches that come to mind, Rose vs Joanna and Weili. Knocked them out the first time and then won by super close decisions in the rematches. Same with Esparza beating her twice, 2nd time was very different. Izzy vs Whittaker 2 Whittaker arguably won, so on and so forth. Too many to count.

Also I wasn't saying Islam is avoiding Oliveira or anything, just pointed out he hasn't defended against an actual lightweight yet, Poirier would be the first and there are several fighters more deserving of a TS than him right now. Of course Oliviera pulling out caused the Volk rematch but yeah, Islam can tie the lightweight defense record via fighting a 5'6 featherweight twice and Dustin jump the guilly Poirier.
 
Striker Fox said:
On one hand you're praising Oliveira for beating all the contenders which includes Poirier, and the other giving Islam no credit for the potential Poirier fight?

You talk as if Volk is some sort of easy layup. The fact that Islam dominated Oliveira and had trouble with Volk suggests full camp Volk very well may be a better LW fighter than any of Oliveira's wins. Unless you buy the "home territory" conspiracies.....
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I'm referring to Dariush and Tsarukyan, jumping the gun a bit saying he's beating them all since the fight hasn't happened yet I guess.

Volk isn't easy but he's not proven at 155 and is old. The rest of what you said is MMA math.
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
I'm referring to Dariush and Tsarukyan, jumping the gun a bit saying he's beating them all since the fight hasn't happened yet I guess.

Volk isn't easy but he's not proven at 155 and is old. The rest of what you said is MMA math.
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You act as if it was Islam's fault Oliveira pulled out, and seemingly doesn't want to fight him anymore.

LW Volk would be the favorite over Dariush, and Islam has already fought Arman, albeit a few years ago.
 
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You act as if it was Islam's fault Oliveira pulled out.

LW Volk would be the favorite over Dariush, and Islam has already fought Arman, albeit a few years ago.
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No I don't and I literally said that if you read my response to somebody else.. Yeah Islam fought a green Tsarukyan years ago and it was competitive. Islam isn't ducking anybody, I'm just pointing out what is happening. Dariush was on an 8 fight streak and knocking on the door for a title shot and Tsarukyan is 8-1 in his last 9, 3 fight win streak and also 1 fight away from a title shot.

Poirier has had 2 title shots and is 2-2 in his last 4, got headkick ko'd by Gaethje and then beat the #12 ranked guy. All I'm saying is Islam should not have fought a featherweight in his first title defense and should not be facing Poirier now (if he does). Not his fault tho, that'd be on the UFC.
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
No I don't and I literally said that if you read my response to somebody else.. Yeah Islam fought a green Tsarukyan years ago and it was competitive. Islam isn't ducking anybody, I'm just pointing out what is happening. Dariush was on an 8 fight streak and knocking on the door for a title shot and Tsarukyan is 8-1 in his last 9, 3 fight win streak and also 1 fight away from a title shot.

Poirier has had 2 title shots and is 2-2 in his last 4, got headkick ko'd by Gaethje and then beat the #12 ranked guy. All I'm saying is Islam should not have fought a featherweight in his first title defense and should not be facing Poirier now (if he does). Not his fault tho, that'd be on the UFC.
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Well you can't ignore the fact he was scheduled to fight Oliveira for the 2nd time before Oliveira pulled out 10 days or so beforehand, and current Poirier and pre head kick Volk are still a better fighters than Dariush ever was......

An Islam vs Arman rematch is inevitable too if he gets a win over a top guy like Oliveira.
 
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Well you can't ignore the fact he was scheduled to fight Oliveira for the 2nd time before Oliveira pulled out 10 days or so beforehand, and current Poirier and pre head kick Volk are still a better fighters than Dariush ever was......

An Islam vs Arman rematch is inevitable too.
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I never ignored the fact that Volk was a replacement the 2nd time tho. Also Dariush clearly has a chin problem but is a very good fighter and quite possibly would beat Poirier with his grappling. Even if you think Poirier is a better fighter than Dariush there is no denying Dariush was more worthy of a title shot back then than Poirier is of one now.

I don't like the situation or the fact Oliveira had to fight Gaethje in his home state in his 2nd title defense and had to fight Islam in Abu Dhabi. Yes ik they took the belt from Oliveira but everybody still considered him the champ with 2 defenses yet he had to fight Islam in Abu Dhabi where Islam was the favorite. Not only that but the crowd was obviously rooting for Poirier and Chandler in those fights too.

They confirmed the scale was wrong but still took the belt from Charles meanwhile in Abu Dhabi they don't even wait for the scales to balance for Islam or Khabib. Now Islam can potentially tie the record for defenses by defending against a featherweight twice and Poirier who does not deserve a TS.

Yes the Volk rematch was a last minute thing but the first fight wasn't and if he fights Poirier that's not a last minute thing either. I just feel like Oliviera by facing Dariush and Tsarukyan is facing the guys that are worthy of title shots, the real contenders.

If Oliveira beats Tsarukyan he will have beaten everybody else currently in the top 7 aside from Gamrot. Only current guy in the top 7 Makhachev has beaten besides Oliveira is Tsarukyan and Tsarukyan probably wasn't ranked back then... Oliveira has almost cleaned out the division but Islam hasn't faced most of the very top guys even tho he's the champ.

It's just the way it is and one last time I will say, it's the UFC's fault.
 
Conan the K-9 said:
Time will show how many times he will fight at 155 somewhere else. My guess is zero, hope he proves me wrong.
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Proof is a weird thing to ask for, coming from a guy who still believes the IV thing

Conan the K-9 said:
It just shows that you shitlam fan girls can’t take a joke.
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I'm sure your constant bullshit and using the term "shitlam" is an example of everyone else being an Islam fan and not just you being a biased hater no one should take seriously
 
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