Movies THE BATMAN (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen THE BATMAN, how would you rate it?

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I kind of think this movie and Joker are getting more love than they deserve. Iconic characters, if the movie doesn't suck people say it's the best thing ever
 
I’m giving it a 8. Could see a argument for 9 but also for 7. Very much a film noir detective movie. If I had to describe it in one sentence it would be imagine they made seven into a 4 part series and you watched it in one go! It did seem long. Question for those in the know, did they go back and reshoot anything? Because it kind of seemed

that perhaps they finished the movie and some executives said “where the big action finish? We need a grand finale!!!!”And they went back and added the MSG scene to make them happy. don’t get me wrong I liked the reveal on the computer with his followers asking what calibre and all that but it just seemed a bit tacked on. Personally I would have been kind of happy if they ended it with the riddlers arrest. I absolutely HATED the whole ‘see their are some good cops left’ part. I thought the cops were going to try and stop the arrest. There ain’t any good cops, Gotham is corrupt as fuck damn it!!

I loved this version of riddler and Colin Farrells Robert deNero impression! Look forward to seeing what they do with him next. The two man songs used were perfect choices.
 
I enjoyed it as well, not sure what to score but overall it was great. Pattinson did a nice job and walked with purpose in the suit, I've seen many reviews saying he was the weaker of the characters but I thought he was solid. I liked the music but after 3 hours of hearing alot of the same music throughout, it dropped my enjoyment of it a bit.

The Riddler was good,had alot of potential to be great but im also a bit biased as I like Dano alot, his explanation worked, it just got a little wacky.
when he started yelling and crying when batman didn't want to consider them a team had the theater laughing, he also went from taking down the corrupt to assembling an army to kill everyone pretty fast.

I would have preferred the Riddler keeping to himself and staying true to sniffing out the corrupt and having a more tragic end instead of the wacky over the top one which would have matched the tone of the movie better. Too soon to bring in the Joker after the route the chose with this version of the Riddler imo, especially with the Joker sounding over the top as well.
 
MIKOM said:
is the Irish actor Barry keoghan featured in it with a link to him possibly being the Joker

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I hope he doesn’t play who we think but he is a damn good actor. I also have to give credit to Patterson, he was a damn good Batman, may actually end up taking bales place as 2nd best Batman. Reading some of your reviews I have to agree that

Riddler all of a sudden planning to commit mass murder of innocents seemed out of place with how the character had been portrayed the whole movie, but as I said above I suspect higher ups wanted a big action ending
 
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ICHEERTHEBULL said:
I hope he doesn’t play who we think but he is a damn good actor. I also have to give credit to Patterson, he was a damn good Batman, may actually end up taking bales place as 2nd best Batman. Reading some of your reviews I have to agree that

Riddler all of a sudden planning to commit mass murder of innocents seemed out of place with how the character had been portrayed the whole movie, but as I said above I suspect higher ups wanted a big action ending
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He does.

It's not Patterson, it's Pattinson. Everyone should know that by now.

And it's not spolier, it's spoiler.
 
SmilinDesperado said:
I didn't feel like the movie was trying to make us really get invested in the average person.
It felt like the stakes were high for Batman. What I was invested in is whether or not the Riddler knew and was going to expose his identity to the world...who the rat was...the mystery of his parents' deaths..and whether or not he'll get his life in order so that he can do the job without self-destructing.
I think the focus of the movie was less about the standard 'hero saves the day' comic flick, but more about the character and his motivations, as well as the movie being more of a noir/mystery film than a comic book film.
Even in the last scenes with the heroic feats, I felt they were more about Batman finding himself and redefining why and how he does his work. Before that, he was a guy that only saw the darkness, and he was a tool to beat down the darkness. But in the end, he can interact with people , give them hope, and do some good work in the light.
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I know what the movie was trying to do with the Riddler crimes. I was just sharing what would have made me more invested and scared for 2/3 of the movie if the victims were good people. I also understood that they couldn't do what I wanted to see because then it would become The Dark Knight 2.0 with the Riddler just copying Heath Ledger's Joker.
 
Update: March 5, 2022

THE BATMAN Flies to $57 Million on Friday for a Projected Opening Weekend of $120 Million

Robert Pattinson’s The Batman flew to a huge $57 million at the Friday box office for a projected opening weekend north of $120 million. The arrival of the Warner Bros. and DC tentpole couldn’t have come sooner for theater owners following a slow January and February in terms of Hollywood tentpoles.

Directed by Matt Reeves, The Batman will easily score the second-best domestic opening of the pandemic era behind Spider-Man: No Way Home, which debuted to an astonishing $260.1 million in mid-December on its way to earning more than $1.85 billion to date at the worldwide box office.

The Batman’s launch is looking like a sizable victory considering that it runs nearly three hours and is far darker than No Way Home.

The PG-13 film — fueled by males between 18 and 34 — centers on Bruce Wayne’s earlier days of fighting crime and is a rogues’ gallery of Batman characters. Paul Dano plays the Riddler, a serial killer pursued by Batman, while Zoë Kravitz plays Catwoman and Colin Farrell appears as the Penguin.

Friday’s haul for The Batman included $21.6 million in Thursday previews and fan screenings in Imax theaters on Tuesday and Wednesday. Like other superhero pics, the $200 million tentpole is doing substantial business on Imax and other premium, large-format screens. The world’s largest exhibitor, AMC Entertainment, is using the movie as a chance to experiment with variable pricing in the U.S. and charge anywhere from $1 to $1.50 more for a ticket. That’s for regular digital screenings; the upcharge for showings on AMC-operated Imax and PLF screens is likely more.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/the-batman-box-office-opening-1235104983/
 
Alright, I went and saw it!

I gave it an 8/10. I really like Pattison so I was confident he was gonna do good in the roll. I think i was actually expecting it to be a little better from reading the reviews, my expectations were really high.

I think it suffers in the same way the Dark Knight did, its just too long and sort of drags in the second half. But pretty epic all things considered. Probably rank it as the second best batman movie with Dark Knight still keeping it down as the best we've got yet.

But better than Batman Begins, so who knows maybe this director can do another one and make it even better
 
MyFavSport said:
I kind of think this movie and Joker are getting more love than they deserve. Iconic characters, if the movie doesn't suck people say it's the best thing ever
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Over half the votes are 8 or lower.
I don't see anyone calling it "the best thing ever".

Also, the movie definitely has a strong "Seven" vibe, and the SherBro's love Seven ... so the 8's & 9's checkout.
 
MIKOM said:
Wow, a lot of anger and envisioning of dick sucking......

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Its more like complete disgust.

Joker used to be a well respected character viewed that only Hollywood's absolute best actors could play him.

*Jack Nicholson
*Heath Ledger
*Jared Leto
*Joaquin Phoenix

Even Jared Leto's Joker...who had like 8 minutes of screentime in a shitty script and the visual design was completely off... at least Leto did absolutely everything he could do given his limitations. He had respect for the character.

But the actor who played Joker in one of the final scenes of The Batman? His appearance is in shadow, so he had mainly his voice to portray the character, and he completely failed, its like he didn't put any effort into it at all. I bet most of the thousands of actors that would love to get a break into Hollywood could have done a better job than that. No one's saying a new Joker has to have as good of a Joker voice as the previous listed actors, or Mark Hamill, but at the very least it should be in the same ballpark with the potential for improvement in a cameo scene to hype up the sequel.

Which begs the question how HE got the job, and apparently its Hollywood where connections matter much much more than ability. The rest of the movie has great actors for every role, but they dropped the ball on this one.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Its more like complete disgust.

Joker used to be a well respected character viewed that only Hollywood's absolute best actors could play him.

*Jack Nicholson
*Heath Ledger
*Jared Leto
*Joaquin Phoenix

Even Jared Leto's Joker...who had like 8 minutes of screentime in a shitty script and the visual design was completely off... at least Leto did absolutely everything he could do given his limitations. He had respect for the character.

But the actor who played Joker in one of the final scenes of The Batman? His appearance is in shadow, so he had mainly his voice to portray the character, and he completely failed, its like he didn't put any effort into it at all. I bet most of the thousands of actors that would love to get a break into Hollywood could have done a better job than that. No one's saying a new Joker has to have as good of a Joker voice as the previous listed actors, or Mark Hamill, but at the very least it should be in the same ballpark with the potential for improvement in a cameo scene to hype up the sequel.

Which begs the question how HE got the job, and apparently its Hollywood where connections matter much much more than ability. The rest of the movie has great actors for every role, but they dropped the ball on this one.
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barry keoghan is a great actor though…
 
HenryFlower said:
barry keoghan is a great actor though…
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Okay, I'll admit I'm completely unfamilar with his body of work. Could you post a clip of him being a great actor?

It won't change my opinion of that Joker scene, but it'll possibly change my mind of whomever decided he would be a great joker... and being completely wrong.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Okay, I'll admit I'm completely unfamilar with his body of work. Could you post a clip of him being a great actor?

It won't change my opinion of that Joker scene, but it'll possibly change my mind of whomever decided he would be a great joker... and being completely wrong.
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HenryFlower said:
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Ok, not horrible, not bad, but this is mediocre at best.

I bet most young actors could do this scene.

"Be an obviously mentally-ill teenage boy who's creeping out the wife of the husband that killed your father. And do it while eating spaghetti."

I get he's Scottish and doing an American accent, and he does it pretty well.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Ok, not horrible, not bad, but this is mediocre at best.

I bet most young actors could do this scene.

"Be an obviously mentally-ill teenage boy who's creeping out the wife of the husband that killed your father. And do it while eating spaghetti."

I get he's Scottish and doing an American accent, and he does it pretty well.
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maybe you need to watch the entire movie to fully absorb what Barry Keoghan is achieving here. you’d be in a very small minority if you watch The Killing of a Sacred Deer & come to the conclusion that his performance is anything short of a standout.
 
HenryFlower said:
maybe you need to watch the entire movie to fully absorb what Barry Keoghan is achieving here. you’d be in a very small minority if you watch The Killing of a Sacred Deer & come to the conclusion that his performance is anything short of a standout.
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I don't need to see dozens and dozens of prior scenes of a series to gauge the level of skill an actor displays in one scene.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Its more like complete disgust.

Joker used to be a well respected character viewed that only Hollywood's absolute best actors could play him.

*Jack Nicholson
*Heath Ledger
*Jared Leto
*Joaquin Phoenix

Even Jared Leto's Joker...who had like 8 minutes of screentime in a shitty script and the visual design was completely off... at least Leto did absolutely everything he could do given his limitations. He had respect for the character.

But the actor who played Joker in one of the final scenes of The Batman? His appearance is in shadow, so he had mainly his voice to portray the character, and he completely failed, its like he didn't put any effort into it at all. I bet most of the thousands of actors that would love to get a break into Hollywood could have done a better job than that. No one's saying a new Joker has to have as good of a Joker voice as the previous listed actors, or Mark Hamill, but at the very least it should be in the same ballpark with the potential for improvement in a cameo scene to hype up the sequel.

Which begs the question how HE got the job, and apparently its Hollywood where connections matter much much more than ability. The rest of the movie has great actors for every role, but they dropped the ball on this one.
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This is some revisionist history.

The internet and public was up a storm with ledger being cast as the joker. "The broke back mountain guy! The gay cowboy!" Was huge.

Then the first trailers with his laugh appeared.

Then he died.

Then it ended up that he was freaking incredible as The Joker.
 
Man, I just got back from seeing it again and right now it's my second favorite Batman movie. I think this film deserves all the praise and acclaim it's getting. TDK is still the gold standard, IMO.

Once the dust settles off we will see where it truly stands, but right now, I think this film is too legit to quit.
 
UberKneeOf209 said:
This is some revisionist history.

The internet and public was up a storm with ledger being cast as the joker. "The broke back mountain guy! The gay cowboy!" Was huge.

Then the first trailers with his laugh appeared.

Then he died.

Then it ended up that he was freaking incredible as The Joker.
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Actually I've brought that up multiple times over the years, including recently in discussions of Ben Affleck and Robert Pattinson being casted as Batman.

But what changed people's minds about Heath Ledger wasn't his performance when the movie was released, or a post-humous respect since he recently passed away, but this first trailer.



Watch it again, please, as I just did. Experience the public's 1st impression of Heath Ledger's joker again. That made skeptics of Ledger first think 'Woah, maybe I was completely wrong from the beginning.'

Now compare that, to the public's 1st impression of Barry Keoghan's Joker.
(Apparently the clips of that scene on YouTube have been deleted, but I trust your memory of it is still fresh so my point will still be made.)
 
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