Movies THE BATMAN (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen THE BATMAN, how would you rate it?

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GearSolidMetal said:
This guy knows which casting directors to give blowjobs to.

That scene with him, and the Riddler, was trash. Easily the worst 2 minutes of the 160 minute runtime. It was cheap, poorly scripted, poorly directed, and it made both villains look weak and pathetic.



-"A friend? I've never had one of those before."
-"Me neither! Do you want to be friends?"
-"I don't know. It may not be a friendly experience."
-"But maybe we can kill the Batman together in the sequel!"
-"With the power of friendship!"

Sorry, but Riddler just caused billions in dollars of property damage and an untold amount of deaths, including political assassinations that all required a very high level of intellect and genius...

...but he's practically retarded?

As for the Joker, wow... I could write for pages and pages of how he automatically is, as of now, the absolute worst live-action Joker and its not even close.

Its like Hollywood casting directors called him and asked if he would like to play Joker, and all he has to do is suck a thousand dicks. And there he is, didn't even need to get in character to smile that widely.

After such a great movie, those 2 minutes actually killed alot of the anticipation I have for the sequel. Who wants to see Riddler and Joker be a threat to Batman in the sequel? Yeah, not buying it.


One last thing... I was hoping there was going to be subtle references to Quintin Pheonix's Joker. That movie takes place in the 80s and Thomas & Martha Mayne die in the end. In The Batman's continuity Thomas & Martha Wayne die like 20 years before in 2001, highly implying the movie takes place in modern times.

Maybe it was the time period wasn't outright said in the 1st half in the movie, but due to Nirvana's 'Something In The Way' being Batman's theme I was thinking it could be set as little as 10 years after 2019's Joker movie, and there could have been an awesome cross-over between Robert Patterson's Batman and Quinton Phoenix's Joker.

But apparently not. Just a few changes in the script could have made it not only very possible but probable.

This guy is this continuity's Joker.
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He looks like McLovin, but he's obviously too gay.

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Wow, a lot of anger and envisioning of dick sucking......

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Loved it.

Clitty as riddler worked, even if he was very different from the comics.

Im impressed they actually focused on batsy's detective work, especially mentioning things like ecchymosis.

The atmosphere was great. Very depressing and any hope is fleeting.

They set up a sequel option which i hope they do. RP was a solid batman, needs some work as Bruce but we didnt get much of it in the movie really for how long it was.
 
I liked it, especially the greater focus on detective Batman. I think there were a few internal inconsistencies but nothing to make it unenjoyable. I'll put further thoughts in spoiler tags.

I liked that we have some clues to future characters in Bane with the green stuff R-Bats injects with in the finale and also I think a potential nod to a future Red Hood/Jason Todd.
I think Bruce Wayne is a future character as well. Between the talk with Real and Bat's final internal monologue about hope I think Batman will realise he needs the mask of Bruce Wayne the philanthropist to do good in Gotham as well. I think in future films we'll see Batman take on the role of Bruce Wayne and end his reclusive emo stage in the public eye.

Like a lot have said, I found the tonal shift in the finale quite strange. The Riddler going from almost justified vigilante himself to somehow cooking up an Incel Battalion and biblical flood to kill thousands seems a bit much.
I thought the car chase with Penguin was cool but a bit OTT. I was watching it thinking that must be a lot of fried motorists for the sake of maybe getting a lead on a guy who so far has only killed corrupt scumbags.

I didn't like a lot of the police interactions as well. It seems Batman films will toy with the idea of the GCPD department to be an actual antagonists to Bats but never go through with it. A bit of explanation could have made it feel less weird when Bats shows up working with cops again after escaping the precinct, punching a cop and generally doing a lot of things he should be arrested for.

I liked Kravitz as Selina Kyle, I think she worked similarly well to Batman as being early in her career but not needing an origin story.

So overall I liked it, I think there's potential for some more good films to come from it.
 
If they can somehow make a sequel featuring Joaquin Joker and make it a sequel to both movies. Too bad it looks like they might be going with a different Joker of the hints are correct. If they put Joaquin Joker in this ot might give TDK a run for its money as the potential would be true if huge.
 
Streeter said:
If they can somehow make a sequel featuring Joaquin Joker and make it a sequel to both movies. Too bad it looks like they might be going with a different Joker of the hints are correct. If they put Joaquin Joker in this ot might give TDK a run for its money as the potential would be true if huge.
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The potential would be true? What?
 
Maine gripe, which is I felt going in, was little to no dichotomy between Bruce/Bats. But that's fine, because this Bruce has only been on the beat for 2 years. He's lost inside his rage.....until the end of the movie. where he has an epiphany. For me, Bale is still my definitive Bruce/Batman but Pattinson sold me behind the cowl. Dude is wicked. And the scene with him and
Alfred in the hospital, talking about his fathers "transgressions"
is where I'm like, OK, there is depth to his Bruce and we will get more down the road.

Colin Farrell, could very well become the next GOAT-tier Batman villain after Ledger if his role increases throughout the trilogy. He was such a scene stealer and in the absolute best possible way.

Dano was equally riveting as the Riddler.
The big reveal scene in Arhkam could have went way over the top, but he played it perfectly there. Nashton is loser and thinks way too highly of himself and when Batman rebuffs his idea of them "teaming up" he just cannot handle it. Just great stuff.

Kravitz was superb. And she wasn't even a fully formed Catwoman either. She is for sure my second favorite Catwoman after Pfiffer.

I thought Jeffery Wright was damn good, but didn't quite match the gravitas of Gary Oldman. But I expect him to have more to do in the sequel.

Going back for a second viewing tonight and after that I think I will know exactly where it sits in my rankings of Bat films.
 
I can’t disagree..With Joaquin’s performance, I cant see why they would just plug in a 20 something young looking Irish actor ...you have a built in success already in Phoenix and people WANT to see that fleshed out.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
I have NO problem with 2hr45min long movies.

What I DO have a problem with is there being 25 fucking minutes of preview trailers BEFORE the 2hr45min long movies.

Ok, its finally starting. Turning off my phone.
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Damn, I came to post this.

I haven't been to film in YEARS ... when did they add (literally) 25 minutes of commercials to the front?

They only showed two previews, both of which were WAY to long and detailed (felt like I saw the movie), and they showed the preview for the film I was there to see twice.

WTH?
 
This movie was damn near perfect for me.

I think one very important thing that people need to recognize is this isn't a standalone movie. Pattison is signed on to a trilogy. There is plenty of time to see and develop the Bruce Wayne part of the character. This is a movie with a rookie Batman that's only 2 years into the game, and he is a mess of a person.

What I loved about this movie was they really went all in on creating this world of Gotham. It felt like a real city by how it looked, how the characters talked about it, the history of it, the people, etc. That made it easier to be invested in the story and in the Batman's goals of protecting it.
There were no weak characters in this movie. I like that it wasn't' just about Batman, but Batman's relationships with others around him.
This is how you build and make these quiet, stoic, "boring" characters shine. It reminded me a bit of Captain America. I enjoy that character, but what allows him to shine is the people he is standing next to and against, and their relationships.
Batman's conversations and interactions with Gordon, Catwoman, the police, and criminals weren't just fleeting moments that centered on Batman. He was having real conversations with real people and that in turn forced him to challenge his own thoughts and beliefs. You could see the growth of the character as the movie progressed, and as he interacted with people.

Can't say enough good things about the cast. Zoe was excellent as Catwoman, and she has great chemistry with Pattison. (My only complaint is someo of the action with her...them Tae kwon do kicks ain't doing shit to a full grown mobster guy) Colin Farrel was unrecognizable as the Penguin, but he was reallyyyy good. Carmine Falcone was a perfect, sleazy boss. And then the relationship between Batman and Gordon was fun to watch.
The fight scenes were raw and impressive, and I like how they embraced the detective side of Batman, as well as his ability to instill fear in thugs. Soundtrack was great and fitting too
9.3/10

On a random note, the movie made me wonder why do all of the bad guys go to Arkham? Isn't Arkham an asylum? Why are all of these people considered mentally unfit, and not just bad people?
 
I do not get why everyone still wants to see Pattinson v Phoenix. The Batman is clearly set in the present, and the Waynes died only 20 years ago; Joker is set in 1981. How would that work exactly? Phoenix in old man makeup limping slowly up to Pattinson over the course of several minutes? Or everyone just pretending that Joker was set in 2001 all of a sudden?
 
Dragonlordxxxxx said:
Update: March 2, 2022

The mystery and detective story are well executed but when we realized very early on that the Riddler’s victims and potential targets are corrupt officials, the film loses a sense of danger or purpose. But if the Riddler was killing off good people, then the stakes would be much higher and I would have been more invested and scared for the victims. As it were, I just didn’t care for the victims and was in fact rooting for the Riddler to expose the big conspiracy corruption. The big spectacle climax felt a little incompatible with the subdued energy from the rest of the film but I thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless as Batman does some super heroic feats and it gives us some memorable imagery as well as character growth. Lastly, Michael Giacchino’s magnificent haunting score is perfect for the film’s dark and violent themes.

PRELIMINARY RATING: 8.5 Stars
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I didn't feel like the movie was trying to make us really get invested in the average person.
It felt like the stakes were high for Batman. What I was invested in is whether or not the Riddler knew and was going to expose his identity to the world...who the rat was...the mystery of his parents' deaths..and whether or not he'll get his life in order so that he can do the job without self-destructing.
I think the focus of the movie was less about the standard 'hero saves the day' comic flick, but more about the character and his motivations, as well as the movie being more of a noir/mystery film than a comic book film.
Even in the last scenes with the heroic feats, I felt they were more about Batman finding himself and redefining why and how he does his work. Before that, he was a guy that only saw the darkness, and he was a tool to beat down the darkness. But in the end, he can interact with people , give them hope, and do some good work in the light.
 
GordoBarraBJJ said:
Gave it a 9/10 - wish I could have enjoyed the first hour or so more but my brain/nervous system decided that a major anxiety attack was in order since it's been a little over a week since I had one.

When DC gets it right they are so much better than anything marvel puts out.
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True, but they usually only get it right with the Batman characters , their go to.
 
It's a very good Batman movie. I thought it was just missing some x factor that would have put it over the top. I still can watch The Dark Knight and feel as though I'm watching a great movie. I know not everyone shares that opinion, but that's what I think and I feel when I see it. This didn't strike me as great. Quite good but I was hoping for just some other element to slightly elevate it

It's frustrating too because I cannot even articulate what the missing element was. I mean, legitimately almost everything was either good or very good: I really liked the plot, I really liked the work Reeves and the technical crew did (lot of iconic shots and moments), I thought Pattinson was damn good, I thought Kravitz, Dano, Wright, Farrell, Turturro, the rest of the cast were really good, I loved Giacchino's (he's always great) score.

Still, clearly a very strong 8-8.5/10 for me. Definitely a top-tier showing as far as the DCEU goes.
 
Just watched it, good shit. 7/10

Pattinson did great as Batman, Kravitz a great Catwoman, Farrell was outstanding as Penguin, Wright as Gordon was perfect, and Dano was great as Riddler.

only real gripes:
The Nirvana song doesn’t fit, at all.

The line about “white privilege”. It was just shoehorned in there to be there. If you’re going to have a character say something like this, it needs to make sense when it comes to the story. Otherwise it’s just pandering nonsense.

Super emo Bruce Wayne was annoying at times, but I’m hoping that’ll sort itself out as Bruce realizes what sort of good influence he can have once he comes to accept certain things.

The glimpse of “the Joker” looked like his face is all mangled and he sounded like shit. Not really looking forward to that one bit.
 
SmilinDesperado said:
Batman's conversations and interactions with Gordon, Catwoman, the police, and criminals weren't just fleeting moments that centered on Batman. He was having real conversations with real people and that in turn forced him to challenge his own thoughts and beliefs. You could see the growth of the character as the movie progressed, and as he interacted with people.
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Good points
 
ufcfan4 said:
He was one of the best aspects of the movie in my opinion. He's had an awesome career.
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