Law Tennessee doctor denies treatment to unmarried pregnant woman

[GrantB13]

I believe this doesn't cover any protected class. If this doctor doesn't want to treat you then its best for you to go to someone that does then to force him to do so.

I think most people would prefer to go somewhere if they don't feel like they are wanted, but if you ask me that's an opinion the doctor should keep to themselves. The patient should never know that the doctor doesn't like them unless the patient is rude or unreasonable. The doctor should grow up if unmarried parents triggers them to the point of refusing care.

 

[oldshadow]

I think most people would prefer to go somewhere if they don't feel like they are wanted, but if you ask me that's an opinion the doctor should keep to themselves. The patient should never know that the doctor doesn't like them unless the patient is rude or unreasonable. The doctor should grow up if unmarried parents triggers them to the point of refusing care.

I would rather they refuse treatment and go elsewhere then have to be treated by someone that doesn't want to treat me.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

What is unacceptable is you taking one side of the story and believing it without a trace of doubt. Im not saying it happend or not. We dont know if its true.

Im speaking on the broad notion of this happening in any circumstance. Outside of this woman being violent toward the staff, there is no good reason to refuse care. Especially over a lifestyle choice. The law that Tennessee has passed is morally and ethically repugnant.

Your comparison also does not make sense. It would make sense if he treated her and acted neglectful or fucked up shit on purpose because of her personal life.

It neglectful to not treat her. I've been in more than one situation where a family member went in for a regular check up only to find out they had serious shit going on and needed to go to the ER immediately. There was a pregnant woman who went brain dead recently because she was dismissed at a regular check up.

It doesn't matter if theyre coming in for something basic. Your job is to ensure that they receive the proper care

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I would rather they refuse treatment and go elsewhere then have to be treated by someone that doesn't want to treat me.

Id rather there not be doctors like that. Because those same doctors will be there in emergency situations with the same bias against these people. That's not gonna just poof away in an emergency. It will show in the quality of care (or lack there of).

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- No free health care. And a doctor can refuse to atend someone, if his numerologist feels like.

Happy to be a third world today.

 

[oldshadow]

Id rather there not be doctors like that. Because those same doctors will be there in emergency situations with the same bias against these people. That's not gonna just poof away in an emergency. It will show in the quality of care (or lack there of).

Then you eoukd have to have AI doctors. Well even that is not assured from what I have heard.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I answered you
The baby will get much better treatment with another doctor and I whoukd rather his beliefs were know then not known.

If his personal beliefs interfere with his ability to make sounds treatment plans then he probably really should not be a doctor period. I doubt that’s the case though. I’m sure he would perform all the same exams and teach the same normal conclusions. So if you truly believe that he is so thrown off by her decision to not get a marriage certificate that he couldn’t examine and treat her like he normally would, then I would say he can’t be trusted to provide care period.

 

[oldshadow]

If his personal beliefs interfere with his ability to make sounds treatment plans then he probably really should not be a doctor period. I doubt that’s the case though. I’m sure he would perform all the same exams and teach the same normal conclusions. So if you truly believe that he is so thrown off by her decision to not get a marriage certificate that he couldn’t examine and treat her like he normally would, then I would say he can’t be trusted to provide care period.

He can do the minimum and nothing more. I dont want his views hidden.

 

[Sinister]

I would rather to know about it then to have it hidden.

If its know then people can avoid it which if enough do they will go out of business.

If its a private insurance company then they can pull his insurance over this if they want.

Not sure why you think it would be hidden. This case isnt hidden. The State can pull his license and all that same stuff would happen with much less fuss.

 

[Sinister]

I would rather they refuse treatment and go elsewhere then have to be treated by someone that doesn't want to treat me.

Do you believe everyone is "liked" by their Doctors? Are you being serious?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Then you eoukd have to have AI doctors. Well even that is not assured from what I have heard.

No you wouldn't. There are plenty of doctors who treat people from all walks of life without issue. It is not some high standard. It is a simple baseline.

 

[theincognito]

Things that never happened for $500, Alex.

Anonymous, not naming the doctor or clinic. Almost certainly made up as propaganda to use against whatever bill they're against.

People are dumb enough to believe anything.

 

[Soggust]

I believe this doesn't cover any protected class.

I am not smart enough to call you wrong, but I'm also not necessarily sure you are correct.

ChatGPT is suggesting that the pregnancy discrimination exception is historically intertwined with marital status and would, likely, constitute a violation of a protected class (assuming everything is true).

Spoiler: chatgpt

Can a doctor refuse care to an unwed mother in non-emergent circumstances (assuming that's the reason for discrimination)?

Thank you for the clarification — and here's the direct, precise answer:

No, a doctor generally cannot refuse care to an unwed mother in non-emergency circumstances solely because she is unmarried. That would likely constitute unlawful sex and/or pregnancy discrimination.

Narrow Exceptions​

A provider might refuse specific services (e.g. abortions) on religious or conscience grounds, but:

• They must still refer the patient elsewhere, and
• They cannot discriminate against someone solely because of their status as an unwed mother

Bottom Line​

A doctor cannot legally refuse to treat an unwed mother just because she's not married — even in non-emergent situations — if the refusal is rooted in moral or religious objection to her marital status. That would likely be a violation of civil rights laws and medical ethics.

 

[Blayt7hh]

He can do the minimum and nothing more. I dont want his views hidden.

I’m fine with him having whatever views he wants. If he can’t separate himself from that and find something relatively normal and completely benign like this enough to do his job effectively, then I can promise you it runs deeper then just this issue and you can’t trust him to do his job period.

I seriously doubt that’s the case though and is really just a way to skirt the question. This is a very arbitrary reason to deny service and I find it odd that you’re ok with him denying treatment for that unborn baby.

 

[oldshadow]

Not sure why you think it would be hidden. This case isnt hidden. The State can pull his license and all that same stuff would happen with much less fuss.

Because if he knew the state could pull his license he would hide his views.

 

[oldshadow]

Do you believe everyone is "liked" by their Doctors? Are you being serious?

No they are indifferent to most but very few really dislike or even hate them.

 

[oldshadow]

No you wouldn't. There are plenty of doctors who treat people from all walks of life without issue. It is not some high standard. It is a simple baseline.

Humans have emotions even if they hide them.

 

[oldshadow]

I’m fine with him having whatever views he wants. If he can’t separate himself from that and find something relatively normal and completely benign like this enough to do his job effectively, then I can promise you it runs deeper then just this issue and you can’t trust him to do his job period.

I seriously doubt that’s the case though and is really just a way to skirt the question. This is a very arbitrary reason to deny service and I find it odd that you’re ok with him denying treatment for that unborn baby.

I dont agree with his views but I support his right to have them.

 

[fedoriswar37]

She wasn't in the er, it was a regular office call.

Legally the doctor can refuse normal care for many reasons. Its his right and him being honest is the best thing for both of them.

Just the same as a gynecologist can and should be able to refuse to see a trans.

Oh it'll happen eventually. Trans women ( a man) goes to doctor and says theyre in excruciating pain from their period. Doctor says , thats physically impossible. You'll have to go see a doctor who will entertain this shit. And cue the outrage

 

[Sinister]

Things that never happened for $500, Alex.

Anonymous, not naming the doctor or clinic. Almost certainly made up as propaganda to use against whatever bill they're against.

People are dumb enough to believe anything.

She didnt speak anonymously, she stood up at a town hall in front of legislators and there is video of it. But hey dont let your superiority complex + laziness stop you from deeming everything you refuse to look deeper into as just people being dumb.