Teminator vs Terminator 2 - Alien vs Aliens

[DeathOrgy]

For me Alien>Aliens and T2>T1

 

[DIABOLUS]

hah, perhaps I was desensitized by then. I was 11 and the only part that struck out in memory when I made my post was the walking through the close gate scene.

Only reason why I didnt find much of the killings the T1000 did was because of the presentation. The stepfather had a milk carton, making it look almost slapstick, the police officer death was also slapstick (I also remembered those 2 were actual twins that did comedy gags), the elevator was mostly action because of the music, the replication of sarah I guessed as a child.

I dont mean to challenge what you found scary. In Terminator, Arnold is just shooting shit up in the police station, but when his skin started to come off, it was revealing a much more sinister, yet TRUE look underneath. The T1000 wasnt scary looking. Shit, half the time he got shot, I was either wowed by the effects, or laughing because he was laffy taffy. If I am laughing, I am not scared.

That's actually a good point. The original Terminator accumulated damage from battle so looked increasingly horrifying as the movie went on. To the point where its skin was rotting. So they were being chased by a cyborg killer zombie in effect. The T-1000, but nature of its liquid metal state, can heal almost instantaneously from most all damage so you miss out on that effect. Plus his default disguise being that of a police officer and not a biker or trenchcoat-wearing, shotgun-wielding gunman, and again, you miss out on one aspect of the original's sense of horror.

 

[Zer]

I'd say T1 > Alien > T2 >>>>>>>>>>>> Aliens

Terminator wins

 

[Pixelated Porn]

Terminator is the superior film. Original, relentless. T2 was great but more kid friendly. Hell Ahnold was good and the kid had more lines than anyone.

Alien is an all time great slow burn horror sci fi Classic.
But Aliens is the greatest sci fi action movie ever made.

The only thing missing in T2 was the fucking Ewoks.

 

[Flemmy Stardust]

T1 and Alien.

T2 gives it hell.

Aliens....not so much.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

T2 is like 5000 times better than T1 and T1 is a Fn sick sick movie.

Aliens is just a summer shoot em up. Alien is far superior, smarter and much more cerebral. Also uses the less is more Approach. Aliens is just idiots with guns shooting at things.

 

[sloppypie]

I know people are big on Aliens, but I much prefer the first Alien for its slow pacing, build-up, and atmosphere. The sense of dread looming incessantly over the film is fucking perfect. Although the Queen idea makes more sense, I liked the original idea of the Alien transforming people. It’s much creepier I think. I remember seeing the chest buster scene when I was 7 and freaking out and never going near seeing the movie again. I finally saw it when I was 23 and I loved it and followed up by watching all the other movies in the franchise. I like Aliens, but Alien is one of my favorite movies of all time.

alien is certainly the more artistic movie, and arguably more impressive being lower budget. ridley scott also utilized spacing and camera angles to create a feeling of claustrophobia and inability to escape with the ship that makes alien strangely unique as a part of its genre.

personally though i like aliens more. it's just insanely good with an insanely good cast, and it's just a bigger spectacle. but i totally see the appeal someone would have preferring the original, it has a different taste of intensity and fear that makes you feel like you are part of the story with the characters.

but there's no contest on T2 > T1 imo. i mean, T1 is a great film, and i could even see someone liking it more because it has a more sinister undertone to it. but T2 is freakin incredible.

edit: but another major perk of aliens over alien is that sigourney weaver gave a significantly better performance, and her character was more interesting and explored in aliens. it was a major component of the film that was pretty masterfully done, and she even got an academy award nomination for it (which is super rare for a film like this).

 

[armbarforhire]

I always disliked the fact that the sequels have kids hanging around, kinda ruin the films for me.

Being a fan of 80s slasher films I like the slasher/horror vibe both of the originals have over the superior action of the sequels, even if sequels are probably the 2 goat action movies.

I also liked mad max 1 better, second one has annoying kids too. Kids shuld only be in disney movies.

 

[armbarforhire]

I also liked that Alien had another giant mysterius and unexplained "alien" in there. I feel that was kinda ruined with this current idea to overxplain every little detail in prequels that gives us such gems like Greedo and Darth Vader being friends, Vader building C3PO and kid versions of Vader and Bobba Fett.

 

[Mike]

Imo all four movies are perfect and brilliant in their own way. Both went from horror toward action, and both blend both genres perfectly.


Four perfect movies imo.

 

[IloveTHIS]

I know people are big on Aliens, but I much prefer the first Alien for its slow pacing, build-up, and atmosphere. The sense of dread looming incessantly over the film is fucking perfect. Although the Queen idea makes more sense, I liked the original idea of the Alien transforming people. It’s much creepier I think. I remember seeing the chest buster scene when I was 7 and freaking out and never going near seeing the movie again. I finally saw it when I was 23 and I loved it and followed up by watching all the other movies in the franchise. I like Aliens, but Alien is one of my favorite movies of all time.

sums up my thoughts as well

 

[Adamant]

Was Arnold a huge pussy who took orders from a screechy bitch boy in T2? Yes he was.

Because he was programmed to. No big deal.

 

[Adamant]

Every time I walk into a place and this is playing, I always go into Terminator mode:

 

[BVG]

The only thing missing in T2 was the fucking Ewoks.

Are you serious? It had more violence realized than T1...

 

[Pixelated Porn]

Are you serious? It had more violence realized than T1...

I am talking about the arnold model becoming pussy and getting bossed around by a little kid.

2nd off, it did not have more "realized violence" than T1.

One robot cyborg shooting another cyborg is not shit. And lol at your stupid gif of a piece of metal shattering....ohhhhh so violent. Ugh.

T1 has the eye cut out scene if you want to go for gross out. You also had arnold punching a hole through a punk.
You had arnold beating ginger's bf to death. You have him kill two sarah conors and ginger.
You had him ohhhh I don't know, kill a whole fucking police station.

And in the future you had an HK just taking out a whole group of survivors with many women and children getting killed.

To say that T2 had more violence that T1 you didn't see both movies or you are retarded.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I also liked that Alien had another giant mysterius and unexplained "alien" in there. I feel that was kinda ruined with this current idea to overxplain every little detail in prequels that gives us such gems like Greedo and Darth Vader being friends, Vader building C3PO and kid versions of Vader and Bobba Fett.

There is really just no explanation for what came over George Lucas. It was like someone gave him the God Mode blueprint for how to destroy Star Wars.

 

[Tebowned]

Terminator is a better movie, but terminator 2 is better to watch for the effects and shit. If that even makes sense.

Same way I feel about Alien > Aliens.

Thriller > Action Movie. All 4 are great though.

 

[BVG]

I am talking about the arnold model becoming pussy and getting bossed around by a little kid.

2nd off, it did not have more "realized violence" than T1.

One robot cyborg shooting another cyborg is not shit. And lol at your stupid gif of a piece of metal shattering....ohhhhh so violent. Ugh.

T1 has the eye cut out scene if you want to go for gross out. You also had arnold punching a hole through a punk.
You had arnold beating ginger's bf to death. You have him kill two sarah conors and ginger.
You had him ohhhh I don't know, kill a whole fucking police station.

And in the future you had an HK just taking out a whole group of survivors with many women and children getting killed.

To say that T2 had more violence that T1 you didn't see both movies or you are retarded.

T2 had the fucking A bomb dude.

Check your body count.

 

[Pixelated Porn]

T2 had the fucking A bomb dude.

Check your body count.

Um, it was a dream sequence.
Look, you don't have any argument for me so just stop. I have been watching these movies before you were born many times over.

 

[BVG]

Um, it was a dream sequence.
Look, you don't have any argument for me so just stop. I have been watching these movies before you were born many times over.

A dude getting a shotgun blast as arnolld walked through a police station? omg what B grade 80's movie had that in it???

Like every single one.

What I posted was violent yet entertaining effects of violence. Shit like Arnold gouging his damaged eyeball out on his manikin head.

But this sailed over you because you wanted to talk about actual numbers. While I was talking about actual violence...UNIQUE violence.

Watching the T1000 explode from the inside out is unique. Doesn't matter that it's a robot, it was fucking amazing to see.

Terminator 1 doesn't have anything remotely close to this...it's both interesting and horrific because it's a humanoid body twisted and convulsed into that weird...thing.

Closest movie that comes to this I guess would be The Thing.

In the dream flash back sequence you have woman and children getting "a bombed" and blown apart...That's far more entertaining than watching someone get shot with a shotgun and fly through a pain of glass...

You had no argument when you started. You have two scenes that stick out to me...Arnold punching a hole in that punks stomach, and him gouging his eye out.

That's it. That's all that's unique and violent. The rest is just a body count. So if you wanna talk numbers. I have the fucking A bomb...


Bitch.