Social Teacher asks 6th grade Student not to Make Trump her Hero for Project

Fawlty said:
So here's the chain of information:

1. Kid calls mom and tells her that she was told she couldn't choose Trump for her project.
2. Mom goes into mom mode, raises hell with school and calls the media.
3. School says it didn't happen like that.
4. Child is, in the end, doing the project on Trump.

I'm not ready to pitchfork the teacher just yet. First, we don't know school policy, which might matter here. Second, this all hinges on the word of a disappointed 11-year-old calling her mom-mode mommy. When it comes to academic freedom, the kid should not be forbidden to pick who she wants, but that doesn't mean a teacher can't educate the student and encourage them to make a different choice (also an academic freedom issue).

If the teacher gave her opinion and taught the student about the president's disrespect for women, discouraging her choice, I'm fine with that as long as it's within school policy. If the teacher said "no, you have to pick somebody else" then the teacher has put the school in a bad spot and she needs to be corrected (but not by the entire country).
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This is where I stand:

If the teacher straight up was like "no, choose someone else" I have a slight issue but don't really give a damn THAT much (the kid is 11... like, you don't even know which Happy Meal you want at that age).

If the teacher was more like "why don't you pick someone else?" mom-mod mother should get metaphorically bitch slapped for helicopter-parenting.
 
nac386 said:
You can see part of her assignment in the video, go to 46 seconds and hit freeze.

"How do you define a hero?": Somebody that puts their life on the line to save others.

"What are the qualities a hero possesses?": Brave, kind, loyal, and confident.

"An example of a hero?": Donald Trump

"What positive contribution has this hero made?": Helped millions of people by creating a good economy and protecting people from drugs crossing the border.
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So Yea he doesn't put his life on the line nor is he brave or kind, so the teacher was correct

Mah bone spurs
 
nac386 said:
What's the connection that you're seeing between these two events?
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They involve schools and an over-reaction?....

Though I don't get what's so special about ripping the guts out of a digital clock and just dropping them in a brief case.
 
i'm glad i went to largely DoD or military dependent full Public schools growing up

good lawd
 
nac386 said:
What's the connection that you're seeing between these two events?
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That parents can potentially manipulate children to create political shit storms.
(Not saying that the girl can't be sincere about admiring Trump or that the teacher can't be a lunatic, but I'm going to hold off judgement)
 
Liberals just keep pushing people to the right. The irony.
 
nac386 said:
You can see part of her assignment in the video, go to 46 seconds and hit freeze.

"How do you define a hero?": Somebody that puts their life on the line to save others.

"What are the qualities a hero possesses?": Brave, kind, loyal, and confident.

"An example of a hero?": Donald Trump

"What positive contribution has this hero made?": Helped millions of people by creating a good economy and protecting people from drugs crossing the border.
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She'd fit in well around here.
 
Gregolian said:
They involve schools and an over-reaction?....

Though I don't get what's so special about ripping the guts out of a digital clock and just dropping them in a brief case.
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It was a pencil box. There was nothing special about it at all, it as just a socially awkward nerd gutting a clock and the school completely overreacting. Then a bunch of people (Google, Facebook, the White House, MIT) feeling bad for the kid and trying to show him that the entire world doesn't think he's a loon.

Higus said:
That parents can potentially manipulate children to create political shit storms.
(Not saying that the girl can't be sincere about admiring Trump or that the teacher can't be a lunatic, but I'm going to hold off judgement)
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You think Ahmed was manipulated by his parents to create a political shit storm by disassembling and reassembling a digital clock in his pencil case? I've never understood why people went after that kid and his family. Was there ever any evidence to suggest it was anything more than what he claimed?
 
nac386 said:
It was a pencil box. There was nothing special about it at all, it as just a socially awkward nerd gutting a clock and the school completely overreacting. Then a bunch of people (Google, Facebook, the White House, MIT) feeling bad for the kid and trying to show him that the entire world doesn't think he's a loon.



You think Ahmed was manipulated by his parents to create a political shit storm by disassembling and reassembling a digital clock in his pencil case? I've never understood why people went after that kid and his family. Was there ever any evidence to suggest it was anything more than what he claimed?
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I can't prove whether or not he was manipulated by his parents, but the multiple law suits his father made after the incident make me suspicious.
I'm not a CT kind of person, but I'm skeptical enough to admit that a story about a muslim kid making a beeping clock unprompted and bringing it to school is designed to create a media circus.
 
bushman505 said:
Seems like it’s the teachers sensitive
Feelings coming into play....not the kids. It
Also seems like you’re suffering from TDS like a little bitch.
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What’s the opposite of having TDS?
Oh that’s right you’re a dumbass.
 
Higus said:
I can't prove whether or not he was manipulated by his parents, but the multiple law suits his father made after the incident make me suspicious.
I'm not a CT kind of person, but I'm skeptical enough to admit that a story about a muslim kid making a beeping clock unprompted and bringing it to school is designed to create a media circus.
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I don’t know the kid or his family, but I didn’t think there was anything suspicious about the situation. The kid is a nerd based on all of his interviews, and he brought it in and showed it to a teacher. He didn’t make any threats at all.

The idea that his father somehow knew they would arrest him for something so ridiculously inconsequential is silly to me.

He filed lawsuits after the fact because the opportunity arose after his son was unfairly humiliated and arrested. I have absolutely no reason to believe this was all part of some master plan.
 
nac386 said:
It was a pencil box. There was nothing special about it at all, it as just a socially awkward nerd gutting a clock and the school completely overreacting. Then a bunch of people (Google, Facebook, the White House, MIT) feeling bad for the kid and trying to show him that the entire world doesn't think he's a loon.



You think Ahmed was manipulated by his parents to create a political shit storm by disassembling and reassembling a digital clock in his pencil case? I've never understood why people went after that kid and his family. Was there ever any evidence to suggest it was anything more than what he claimed?
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I think the reason some people suspected the parents / family of giving ideas to the kid is because when he was on the phone with the Mark Cuban, and Cuban asked the kid about what happened, Ahmed's older sister could be heard in the background coaching him on how to answer.
 
WarDosAnjos said:
I find it hilarious how the right wingers in here continually search for lone examples that fit their narrative. Just because this happened to one person in one school doesn't mean it happens everywhere. If you think shit like this doesn't happen to liberal kids in places like Alabama than you are out to lunch. It goes both ways.

And also, right wing media often has ways of twisting these stories to induce the most possible outrage without actually telling the entire story. It's also funny because I thought the media never covered it when right wingers are wronged? Right????

Remember guys, white people are victims!
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Pretty Ironic coming from a dude that makes threads like these....

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...d-black-man-gets-life.3947661/#post-151252423

Imo the polarization of the left and right are definitely worth a discussion, and this thread is an example of that. It's funny how some of you crazy liberals think that anybody who doesn't spew Trump hatred all over the place are automatically these far right conservatives.

Yes I support my and voted for Trump; and yes he's absolutely deserves criticism at the way he can carry himself, but as far as his position goes he's doing a fairly decent job. I also have a lot of Democratic values, I believe in Social service programs, worker unions, and am pro choice (even though I think abortions are disgusting.)

I also voted for a Democrat as my State's Governor and voted for Gore, Kerry, and Obama Twice. The problem is that liberals just keep moving unreasonably left and there are social consequences for this that I think are unhealthy for our society. The funny thing is that there are a lot of people like me that are being pushed to the right and an overwhelmingly portion of the left are too bust stomping their feet to even realize it.
 
Steve-French said:
Pretty Ironic coming from a dude that makes threads like these....

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...d-black-man-gets-life.3947661/#post-151252423

Imo the polarization of the left and right are definitely worth a discussion, and this thread is an example of that. It's funny how some of you crazy liberals think that anybody who doesn't spew Trump hatred all over the place are automatically these far right conservatives.

Yes I support my and voted for Trump; and yes he's absolutely deserves criticism at the way he can carry himself, but as far as his position goes he's doing a fairly decent job. I also have a lot of Democratic values, I believe in Social service programs, worker unions, and am pro choice (even though I think abortions are disgusting.)

I also voted for a Democrat as my State's Governor and voted for Gore, Kerry, and Obama Twice. The problem is that liberals just keep moving unreasonably left and there are social consequences for this that I think are unhealthy for our society. The funny thing is that there are a lot of people like me that are being pushed to the right and an overwhelmingly portion of the left are too bust stomping their feet to even realize it.
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And this is the problem.

The way Trump carry's himself honestly is okay and his positions are not. It is not ok to be fiscally conservative, MMT basically means it's basically hurting people for no reason. It is not okay to oppose single payer and it is not okay to be a climate denier. It is okay to not be professional and the people who say they are for these disgusiting policies but are opposed due to some vague principle of manners are exactly backwards.

The country is moving left because it was so far right prior to that. Bernie's positions on economics used to be the consensus until Ronald Reagan and his ilk took. People are going more left because they realize that leftist policies built this country and conservative ones destroyed it. This is why when people ask "socialism's never worked" the answer needs to be "it has in this one, show some fucking respect for what built the world you live in".
 
I hope some celebrities tell us what to do to with this demon child. Clearly she's a genocidal Nazi.
 
nac386 said:
It was a pencil box. There was nothing special about it at all, it as just a socially awkward nerd gutting a clock and the school completely overreacting. Then a bunch of people (Google, Facebook, the White House, MIT) feeling bad for the kid and trying to show him that the entire world doesn't think he's a loon.



You think Ahmed was manipulated by his parents to create a political shit storm by disassembling and reassembling a digital clock in his pencil case? I've never understood why people went after that kid and his family. Was there ever any evidence to suggest it was anything more than what he claimed?
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His dad ran for presidnet of Sudan before the clock incident.

Now that Omar Al Bashir was deposed in a coup last week, will the dad run again?
 
nac386 said:
I don’t know the kid or his family, but I didn’t think there was anything suspicious about the situation. The kid is a nerd based on all of his interviews, and he brought it in and showed it to a teacher. He didn’t make any threats at all.

The idea that his father somehow knew they would arrest him for something so ridiculously inconsequential is silly to me.

He filed lawsuits after the fact because the opportunity arose after his son was unfairly humiliated and arrested. I have absolutely no reason to believe this was all part of some master plan.
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I won’t argue with that. There’s enough reasonable doubt in the case to say your interpretation is plausible.
 
calavera2 said:
What’s the opposite of having TDS?
Oh that’s right you’re a dumbass.
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So I’m a dumbass because some teacher is forcing her agenda on young students and I’m not on board with that???

Seems like something a dumbass would say.
 
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