Surprised by reaction to Ngannou’s win

[Southpoor97]

I just thought of this


Francis fought Renan just like Jones fought Gane- 30’seconds on the feet straight into a takedown and meh
Somehow pico boy was a hero for the same game plan and Francis is a bum ?
Same fight

This makes you look so dumb. Jones beat Gane in 2 minutes, Francis barely scraped a debatable split decision.

Same fight.

 

[Poirierfan]

Wrong
When you hurt inside you train even HARDER

no excuse for having tiddies

Umm, that's complete bullshit.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

This makes you look so dumb. Jones beat Gane in 2 minutes, Francis barely scraped a debatable split decision.

Same fight.

This makes you look so dumb, he was comparing this fight with Jones/Gane.

"neutral"

 

[frontkick1]

You don’t even know that Francis vs Ferreira wasn’t for the PFL HW belt.

Bandwagoner.

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[fedorthegoat777]

The Heavyweight division of the UFC
HE WON it and defended it twice
More tha Frank has done
Let’s not forget that Stipe beat his ass for 25 mins ona 50-44 5 rounder

That was an interim belt. A pretend belt. Jon has the real one.

Not saying it is right, just saying that is the reality of it.

 

[spinup]

That was an interim belt. A pretend belt. Jon has the real one.

Not saying it is right, just saying that is the reality of it.

Both belts have exactly the same value, neither won it by beating the champ.
And at least Aspinall defended it against an active legit contender, so he is more legit than Jones if anything.

The Heavyweight division of the UFC
HE WON it and defended it twice
More tha Frank has done
Let’s not forget that Stipe beat his ass for 25 mins ona 50-44 5 rounder

Aspinall has not defended twice. He was given an interim TS for beating...Marcin Tybura, captured the interim belt against another contender, and he defended once against a guy Ngannou finished twice (last time in 49s).


Ngannou finished 4 top 10 contenders in a row , then took the belt from the champion and defended it against the interim champion.

Not even close.

 

[SlomiGa]

Overachieved against a guy who barely trained and treated the matchup like a joke.

Overachieved, as in he did his best? Never understood that term. Also, Fury himself said he trained but here a Sherdogger claims otherwise. Guess we finally have the truth.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

That was an interim belt. A pretend belt. Jon has the real one.

Not saying it is right, just saying that is the reality of it.

Jones didn't win his belt from the real champ, it is just as pretend.

 

[chinarice]

TS is so emotional. My goodness

 

[Ballsaque]

I'm kidding that Francis isn't special for competing nearly 7 months after a personal tragedy by pointing out that countless fighters have done so too as well as much sooner than Francis did?

Like for instance Paddy who competed only 30 hours after his friend committed suicide and now was going to have to be travelling to the funeral in a few days?

Nah, you're the joke if you're just bringing it up trying to score brownie points.

Fucking retard, jesus christ.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Jones didn't win his belt from the real champ, it is just as pretend.

I am getting a lot of heat from this one.

I'm not arguing about who the better fighter is. I think the fight with Jon and old man Stipe is a farce. Jon should fight Tom or be stripped. Tom should be the real champion.

But he is not. It is unfortunate, but he has a pretend belt. Not his fault, just the reality of it.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Very emotional responses. Thanks for confirming. It’s not about who’s the best. It’s something else with you people. And us and them mentality. Haters and non haters. Intriguing.

Because your take was delusional. When you come in with an obvious bias, as you clearly did, you are not owed the type of response you're invalidating everyone for not making. People can point out that dumb things are dumb.

You said a guy "clearly declined" based off of basically no information. That was pointed out in the very first reply. But just like how you were able to cherry pick an argument about his decline to make this thread, you also cherry pick the responses against you in it.

Whatever makes you feel better with your life, guy. I'd argue the real emotion here is how sad it is

 

[omawho402]

Can someone clear me up on the reaction?

I am very neutral and I saw a Francis that has clearly declined. He looked very slow and ploddy in the feet. I wasn’t really impressed by his grappling either, if you’ve seen Renan grapple, you know most jobbers could do that. Took Francis a long time to advance position. Almost got caught in a triangle.

Yet online I see everyone claiming to be impressed or terrified by the performance, and I’m very confused…

I DO NOT see a guy who could challenge Tom Aspinall in any way anymore, Francis did not look the same to me.


Do you guys truly believe you saw the best heavyweight or is it more of a f**k you to Dana or Jon Jones to claim he is?

How many of you truly believe that was a good performance and he could compete with Aspinall?

How many of you would you admit a lot of this is based in emotion?

Purely curious if I live on a different planet or there is more to this?

That Renan guy is just awful, but Francis still seems to have power and improved fight IQ.

I do agree with you that he showed a clear decline physically and most won't admit it bc he's likable and most hate Dana/UFC brass.

I don't think he can compete with Jones or Tom anymore.

 

[DagOban**]

Fair point.
But Tom is not the UFC champ.
He should be, but he isn't. Jon is.

Of course, you are right.

But why has it become so complicated...

 

[websurfer]

You're right OP. Francis looked just as sloppy as Jon Jones did against Cyril Game. One can blame the opposition for not being prepared enough to bring the fight.

Francis vs Renan


Jon Jones vs Cyril Gane

 

[jooohnmatrix]

Can someone clear me up on the reaction?

I am very neutral and I saw a Francis that has clearly declined. He looked very slow and ploddy in the feet. I wasn’t really impressed by his grappling either, if you’ve seen Renan grapple, you know most jobbers could do that. Took Francis a long time to advance position. Almost got caught in a triangle.

Yet online I see everyone claiming to be impressed or terrified by the performance, and I’m very confused…

I DO NOT see a guy who could challenge Tom Aspinall in any way anymore, Francis did not look the same to me.


Do you guys truly believe you saw the best heavyweight or is it more of a f**k you to Dana or Jon Jones to claim he is?

How many of you truly believe that was a good performance and he could compete with Aspinall?

How many of you would you admit a lot of this is based in emotion?

Purely curious if I live on a different planet or there is more to this?

Agree 100% people forget the timid Francis and the one who was easily beaten by Stipe, not to mention him fleeing from the trilogy.

You have to understand that a lot of young mma fans are men raised by single far left mothers who have been brought up to hate men, especially masculine men like Dana. So you must consider these aren’t really Francis fans they are just anti-Dana freaks.

Francis is an average fighter with retard strength.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

This makes you look so dumb. Jones beat Gane in 2 minutes, Francis barely scraped a debatable split decision.

Same fight.

This makes you look so dumb because you didn't understand the obvious point.

He wasn't comparing how both guys performed against Gane. He's noting the differing reactions to the same game plans shown by Jones against Gane vs how Francis went in against Renan. How did you not get that?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

This makes you look so dumb, he was comparing this fight with Jones/Gane.

"neutral"

 

[Poirierfan]

Fucking retard, jesus christ.

I can only imagine what retarded take Mark has. That's why I put his ass on ignore months ago. His takes are always ass backwards, he's a fucking idiot of the utmost proportion (the worst on Sherdog).

 

[Poirierfan]

This makes you look so dumb because you didn't understand the obvious point.

He wasn't comparing how both guys performed against Gane. He's noting the differing reactions to the same game plans shown by Jones against Gane vs how Francis went in against Renan. How did you not get that?

Because he's projecting, usually when they act like he does they're insecure little wieners.