Economy Study: Middle Class Is Over

Some good points here.


The only good point I see is blaming Trump being bullshit. Trump may be worse than some others but this trend of allowing businesses leaders to siphon the average worker to the breaking point has been going on for around 30 years and has been supported in various degrees by Democrats and republicans. It is the sin of greed that is casing this. Greed is the bottom line here-- the love o and valuing of money over and above human persons, human life and human dignity.
 
The president inherited an economy that had come a long way toward healing. During his administration, the economy has continued growing at about the same rate it did before he took office, pushing incomes, employment and output to yet higher levels.


Nice cnn talking point.

Don't think you know what you're talking about
 
Ripskater is far smarter than you in every way.

Also sir know that those who are compelled to stoop to emotionality and hurl insults when debating a topic that would be better served with logic. Always "out" their lack of intelligence and the mental acumen required to debate civilly.

It's a classic hallmark of a brainwashed Liberal.

Don't agree with a differing POV?... hurl insults and try to shout down the dissenting view point typical and classless. YASMB
Thanks jack. I'm not smarter than these guys. But I think I have some common sense to offer.
 
@Madmick = @Ripskater = @Jack Handy jr

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It’s not working guys... the system just really isn’t fucking working anymore.

A bunch of guys in the Amazon thread who think Bezos extracting $2,000,000 per hour from the economy has no effect on their lives say otherwise.
 
The only good point I see is blaming Trump being bullshit. Trump may be worse than some others but this trend of allowing businesses leaders to siphon the average worker to the breaking point has been going on for around 30 years and has been supported in various degrees by Democrats and republicans. It is the sin of greed that is casing this. Greed is the bottom line here-- the love o and valuing of money over and above human persons, human life and human dignity.


Kind of takes the leverage away from the American worker when there are billions of dirt poor people that will work for a dollar a day. Trump is the only POTUS to even attempt to combat globalization.
 
The only good point I see is blaming Trump being bullshit. Trump may be worse than some others but this trend of allowing businesses leaders to siphon the average worker to the breaking point has been going on for around 30 years and has been supported in various degrees by Democrats and republicans. It is the sin of greed that is casing this. Greed is the bottom line here-- the love o and valuing of money over and above human persons, human life and human dignity.
I agree, greed is a major problem. But we live in a fallen sinful world. So it will always be a problem until Christ returns again.
 
Yeah greed is a problem. What you say makes me feel fortunate about where I live and the church community I'm fortunate to be a part of. People have helped me out, and I've helped other people out.


I get that man but when the middle class is getting squeezed out of existence there is less and less to go around and less and less to help but more and more who need the help. Charity works when an unfortunate EVENT causes someone to need help. When the problem is systemic though, and engineered that way people need help in times and circumstances when there is no reason for it, when otherwise it would not have been an issue. Less We have been headed this way for a long time but it is fabricated-- not necessary and deeply sinful.
 
Hey @Ripskater, I believe you are kind of missing the point. We get told by the GOP that allowing the rich to keep more money will generate more wealth for everyone else. This had been shown not to be true. While the workers are being more productive, their pay is not rising. While this is happening, the wealthy are taking larger pieces of the pie.

Surely you believe in an honest days pay, for an honest day's work. Sure we are better off than other places on earth, but we should be rising their standards of living not lowering our own.


Why should the workers be happy, barely living off of table scraps, when there is more than enough for everyone. Greed is the down fall of humanity, and right now you are advocating for wealthy people to spite their workers.
 
I get that man but when the middle class is getting squeezed out of existence there is less and less to go around and less and less to help but more and more who need the help. Charity works when an unfortunate EVENT causes someone to need help. When the problem is systemic though, and engineered that way people need help in times and circumstances when there is no reason for it, when otherwise it would not have been an issue. Less We have been headed this way for a long time but it is fabricated-- not necessary and deeply sinful.
I hear you.

But part of our problems (and we all have them) are partially do to our sinful choices. And we will have struggles in this life.

John 16:33 New International Version (NIV)
33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 
I agree, greed is a major problem. But we live in a fallen sinful world. So it will always be a problem until Christ returns again.


Or until people stand against it. This can be done. We are called to fight against evil wherever we find it. This greed largely held by the super wealthy has gotten to the point of profound sinfulness. I dont mind much that some guy wants to sell his soul to the devil for money-- that is his choice. But when that man uses his money and power to effect laws and legislation to take more and more from good people who otherwise just want to come home from work and play in the backyard with wife and kids then is becomes malignant and cancerous.
 
But when that man uses his money and power to effect laws and legislation to take more and more from good people who otherwise just want to come home from work and play in the backyard with wife and kids then is becomes malignant and cancerous.
Tell me what example you're thinking of here
 
How are you sure we're not?

Let’s just call it a hunch. Because those who scream about this shit loudest usually are all talk and don’t do shit to help others. And you sir, are one of the loudest
 
Thanks jack. I'm not smarter than these guys. But I think I have some common sense to offer.


You know how to live your life based on traditional morals and values.

You have common sense based on what is intrinsically right.

So in my many years on his planet, in my estimation... you are far smarter than your typical brainwashed Berkley/collegiate liberal. What liberals stand for makes them mentally inept from a common sense, and basic right from wrong standpoint. And imo Liberalism is a far greater threat to the health of our country than almost anything else I can think of.

And those aforementioned reasons is why I say that you're far smarter than any of these liberal idiots. It's my expert/painful life experience, and what I know to be truth.

I had the displeasure of going to college with liberals and just the sight of them now can make me nauseous.

You have always been a light around here because you drive these liberal assholes insane and never break your cool.

I border on hate for the left..so please remember to pray for this anonymous internet friend bro.

Jesus is working on me.
 
Nope. It will always happen. You go to school and work, it happens. You don’t go to school and get a low paying job, it happens. You get a good job but live outside your means, it happens

If you guys care so much then start helping anyone you know that is going through this
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