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They’ve been hinting at his sexuality since season 2. They’ve also shown him to have an affinity for Mike. Not really even subtle.
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I enjoyed it, but I’m still salty of the “marvel movie” tone of the entire season. Season 1 was a horror mystery show. This shit is MCU fodder
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I guess I haven’t been paying attention.
I don’t have much of a gaydar anyway. People usually have to tell me “That guy is gay,” unless they’re really flaming gay.
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I thought you were havin a laugh. That boii Gay as FUUHK.
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Well, he certainly looks gay. But all kids did in the 80s.
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Off the top of my head the portal in the trailer took them to the present time in the upside down and the lake one took them a few years back. Did we see the other portals and I forgot? I don't like time travel to fix things most of the time, but I am hoping they do a good job with it in season 5.
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Oh yeah, that was another thing. What on earth were they thinking?
I think they actually fucked up with some shitty writing. Nancy's line of "We've travelled back in time" made absolutely no sense at all, and everything would still work without it.
It's not even hard to understand or think about - the upside down Hawkins was created on that specific date, no one has been living there and the two worlds aren't linked (hence why Nancy's diary hasn't been updated and guns haven't been put there, they can move things in the upside down and they still in place in the real world). That's not a difficult concept to follow, and then had me thinking we'd learn more about the upside down and Hawkins. Had the upside down always been there, but did Eleven opening a portal to send 1 through give it a "taste" of the real world? They could have done all sorts of things like that.
Instead we got that throwaway line of going back in time which is a total WTF.
Were they lost in their own ideas with this season or something? Sure felt like it.
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Eddie smeshing the Bats was kinda helping in the HiveMind efforts to weaken Vecna from all possible angles, like the one decapitated by sword... Not that Eddie had any reason to know that .
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Agreed. Really liked the season but we are so far removed the first season, it's almost unrecognizable. You had a horror/sci-fi/mystery show with certainly an unlikely scenario but there was something grounded and plausible about it. We are in fantasy realm now.
I wouldn't call it Marvel but it feels like they have the free reign of the budget so they are going to do anything and everything and that's not always a good thing. Being constrained to a small, simple story just worked better for me. I think you could watch season 1 and 2 and it ends perfectly. Season 3 and 4 are big budget, Hollywood popcorn movies. Well made and enjoyable but just not the same.
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He looked at the door breaking and saw they could get to the real world
He didn't run this time
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That isn't what he said, though. He just said he was "buying time", which I assume was for the other 3 at Vecnas lair. It was a good scene but his death was kinda fumbled since his sacrifice was basically for nothing. He didn't save the 3 that were grabbed by tentacles and the bats didn't have anything to do with Eleven or Max or anything. Missed opportunity imo.
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Could they not have gotten into the real world anyway like the Flayers and Demogorgons did?.. They'd get smashed anyway he killed dozens with a bin lid and a spear.
Just occurred to me from thinking about this, are there actually 2 Mind Flayers knocking about? One in that lab in USSR?
Just occurred to me from thinking about this, are there actually 2 Mind Flayers knocking about? One in that lab in USSR?
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That's the thing about sacrifices tho..they don't always work out as intended
He finally had some courage .. that was his arc
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he was just trying to protect people.. who knows what would've happened if they went into the real world... Dustin might have even been killed.
And I don't know if the mind flayer really exists..I think it's just an extension of vecna now.. but it's possible it could be another part of the initial shadow cloud thing 1 saw before taking control
And I don't know if the mind flayer really exists..I think it's just an extension of vecna now.. but it's possible it could be another part of the initial shadow cloud thing 1 saw before taking control
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They'd have been killed by Raccoons and Hawks imo lol, that portal had been open for ages there was always a potential chance that they could have gotten through it at any point after episode 1 of the season but no-one thought to reinforce Eddie's Trailer in case of this scenario..
Did the whole Hive Mind thing apply to these Bat guys? When Eddie was killing them was that affecting Vecna like the Demodogs being killed in USSR supposedly did?
Seems weird to me cos from the flashback scene I got the impression 1's exploring had lead him to something unique and individual(the shadow particle thang), and then he took control of it and morphed it into a spider like thing perhaps eventually becoming as you say a part of Vecna himself, kinda like Liquid Snake inside Ocelot in MGS, but then why would there be other bits of it knocking about nearly 20 years later in USSR I wonder, then it never seemed to "break out" of being imprisoned when all the others did, unless I missed something here.EDIT:Jus realised one of the USSR dudes says it went inside the Dogs, what did it achieve by doing this?
Did the whole Hive Mind thing apply to these Bat guys? When Eddie was killing them was that affecting Vecna like the Demodogs being killed in USSR supposedly did?
Seems weird to me cos from the flashback scene I got the impression 1's exploring had lead him to something unique and individual(the shadow particle thang), and then he took control of it and morphed it into a spider like thing perhaps eventually becoming as you say a part of Vecna himself, kinda like Liquid Snake inside Ocelot in MGS, but then why would there be other bits of it knocking about nearly 20 years later in USSR I wonder, then it never seemed to "break out" of being imprisoned when all the others did, unless I missed something here.EDIT:Jus realised one of the USSR dudes says it went inside the Dogs, what did it achieve by doing this?
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Sure, but this is a TV show. His death was obviously supposed to be a sort of heroic moment, but it was ultimately didnt accomplish anything which made it sort of arbitrary and pointless other than to fulfill the arc they were obviously intending to do. But they didnt stick the landing. His death accomplished nothing so it was useless.
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You could argue, should the loosely explained Hive Mind also be in affect for Bats, that Eddie himself, like Hopper with his sword, helped weaken the Hive thus also contributing to ending Vecna(at least for now).
