Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor', claims Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill

[Fawlty]

Nice try. If didn't constantly come off as such a superior douche, like people have to justify things to you, then the conversation would not have gone this way. Your "No Bible scholars that I know of" nonsense is absurd. Simply posting that shows how little you know about it, yet you're still going to behave as if you're an authority. I told you what I was talking about. So do your own work, because I feel no need to justify my knowledge to you and your assumed intellectual high ground with no obvious justification for it.

We're in the same place we were yesterday.

Fact: You claim that Pilate wrote letters that describe Jesus, that they were taken to a monastery in the early middle ages and destroyed to cover up something while fabricating the modern Jesus myth.

That's your claim. That's fringe stuff to say the least. You have the burden of proof, to provide some evidence to support it, which you have failed to do.

 

[meauneau]

When I'm not even claiming the stupid things you're saying, yes. Maybe you should go back and read again. That why you can figure out why you're stupid. That way maybe you can learn to not just dive in with both feet before you even understand what's being talked about.

Now you are embarrassed to admit that you said that lol.

 

[lfd0311]

We're in the same place we were yesterday.

Fact: You claim that Pilate wrote letters that describe Jesus, that they were taken to a monastery in the early middle ages and destroyed to cover up something while fabricating the modern Jesus myth.

That's your claim. That's fringe stuff to say the least. You have the burden of proof, to provide some evidence to support it, which you have failed to do.

Yes, we are. And I told you in my first post this morning exactly how you can figure out for yourself what I'm talking about. You don't want to do that, you'd rather act like I'm talking about "fringe stuff". That's laughable, especially with your assumed expertise on this issue.

 

[lfd0311]

Now you are embarrassed to admit that you said that lol.

What exactly did I say, exactly? Again, you not being able to read and formulating stupid opinions off of that isn't a reflection on me.

 

[Fawlty]

Yes, we are. And I told you in my first post this morning exactly how you can figure out for yourself what I'm talking about. You don't want to do that, you'd rather act like I'm talking about "fringe stuff". That's laughable, especially with your assumed expertise on this issue.

Again, I am no expert on this stuff.

You claimed the following:

"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's diary containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in it's original form into the Early Middle Ages when it was taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."

You then clarified that you were talking about letters and not a "diary." This is a completely honest portrayal of your claim. Those are your words and the one correction you made to them.


You have the burden of proof to support your claim. Please provide evidence for the claims that Pilate wrote about Jesus, that the letters survived, that monks took them to a monastery and eventually destroyed them, and that the current canonical Jesus story was created there.

 

[lfd0311]

Again, I am no expert on this stuff.

You claimed the following:

"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's diary containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in it's original form into the Early Middle Ages when it was taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."

You then clarified that you were talking about letters and not a "diary." This is a completely honest portrayal of your claim. Those are your words and the one correction you made to them.


You have the burden of proof to support your claim. Please provide evidence for the claims that Pilate wrote about Jesus, that the letters survived, that monks took them to a monastery and eventually destroyed them, and that the current canonical Jesus story was created there.

And you're backtracking away from your expert position. I told you exactly what I was talking about in my first post this morning. Now go from there and figure it out.

 

[Fawlty]

And you're backtracking away from your expert position. I told you exactly what I was talking about in my first post this morning. Now go from there and figure it out.

Is it still your position that (accepting that you meant "letters" instead of diary"):

"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's diary containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in it's original form into the Early Middle Ages when it was taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."

Is that still your position?

 

[meauneau]

What exactly did I say, exactly? Again, you not being able to read and formulating stupid opinions off of that isn't a reflection on me.

Some BS no one takes seriously. I too would be ashamed of myself for making such claims.

 

[lfd0311]

Some BS no one takes seriously. I too would be ashamed of myself for making such claims.

Exactly. You don't actually know. Because you're lazy and can't read.

 

[meauneau]

Exactly. You don't actually know. Because you're lazy and can't read.

After denial comes anger, then shame followed by acceptance. It seems like you are stuck between denial and anger.

If only you have linked us to your argument or claim (hopefully you know the difference), or just restated it here, you wouldn't be suffering like you do.

 

[meauneau]

If I held such stupid ideas like you do I too would refuse to engage with people and wouldn't tell anyone what they are. I would feel anger and shame and would blame it on everyone else. We understand your suffering lol.

We can help you bro. Do you want us to help you?

 

[meauneau]

@lfd0311, silence means consent.

Please respond.

 

[lfd0311]

Is it still your position that (accepting that you meant "letters" instead of diary"):

"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's diary containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in it's original form into the Early Middle Ages when it was taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."

Is that still your position?

Here, I'll clear it up a little bit, since my original post was somewhat unclear. I didn't mean that there was actual documentation of a single group of monk's journey to a specific monastery in modern Switzerland. That was poor wording on my part. What they do know is that during this time period, the foundation of Western religious (non Greek) was in what is now Switerland, within the Holy Roman Empire. From there, as I said, the answers your looking for are in his name.

 

[lfd0311]

@lfd0311, silence means consent.

Please respond.

Calm down, dude. I'm typing. Daddy will get to you when he's done typing.

 

[lfd0311]

After denial comes anger, then shame followed by acceptance. It seems like you are stuck between denial and anger.

If only you have linked us to your argument or claim (hopefully you know the difference), or just restated it here, you wouldn't be suffering like you do.

I'm not denying you're stupid and can't read. I've been pretty up front about that.

 

[meauneau]

I'm not denying you're stupid and can't read. I've been pretty up front about that.

Exactly what I predicted, you wouldn't dispute my diagnosis and explanation of your behaviour, instead you would just call me stupid.

 

[meauneau]

@lfd0311, please respond.

 

[ShadBo]

Here, I'll clear it up a little bit, since my original post was somewhat unclear. I didn't mean that there was actual documentation of a single group of monk's journey to a specific monastery in modern Switzerland. That was poor wording on my part. What they do know is that during this time period, the foundation of Western religious (non Greek) was in what is now Switerland, within the Holy Roman Empire. From there, as I said, the answers your looking for are in his name.

How do you know any of this?

@lfd0311 please respond.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

Why do you guys even bother running in circles with that obviously dim witted assclown?? At some point people have to question your intelligence when you want to keep engaging with a moron with no real argument.

 

[meauneau]

Why do you guys even bother running in circles with that obviously dim witted assclown?? At some point people have to question your intelligence when you want to keep engaging with a moron with no real argument.

I am trying to help him. He needs our help.