Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor', claims Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill

[lfd0311]

You already did, wtf?

Exactly, you've got nothing, wtf?

 

[meauneau]

Exactly, you've got nothing, wtf?

Right, because you have it in your posts.

 

[lfd0311]

Fine.


You say that it is a "well documented fact" that Pilate:

1. WROTE LETTERS
and
2. Described his interactions with Jesus

You claim that the LETTERS:

1. Survived into the early Middle Ages
and
2. Were taken to a monastery

You claim that in this monastery:

1. The current canonical story of Jesus was created
and
2. The actual history of Pilate was destroyed


Please provide evidence for these claims.

Yes. It is. Notice you ignored all your stumbling around in this thread. You have already provided the evidence for me just by being here. You are the expert.

 

[Fawlty]

Yes. It is. Notice you ignored all your stumbling around in this thread. You have already provided the evidence for me just by being here. You are the expert.

But what is the evidence that Pilate wrote letters speaking about Jesus, that the letters survived into the early middle ages, and were taken by monks to a monastery where they were eventually destroyed in the process of fabricating the modern view of Jesus?

 

[meauneau]

Yes. It is. Notice you ignored all your stumbling around in this thread. You have already provided the evidence for me just by being here. You are the expert.

So you are saying that there is no Jesus?

 

[lfd0311]

Right, because you have it in your posts.

Sooo..... you should like....point it out to me... right? And should be able to do it pretty easily, right?

 

[lfd0311]

But what is the evidence that Pilate wrote letters speaking about Jesus, that the letters survived into the early middle ages, and were taken by monks to a monastery where they were eventually destroyed in the process of fabricating the modern view of Jesus?

I don't know bro, ask yourself, being both an expert and the source of the information.

 

[Fawlty]

I don't know bro, ask yourself, being both an expert and the source of the information.

But what is the evidence for it?

Again, your claim (corrected for "letters" instead of "diary") is as follows:


"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's [letters] containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in [their] original form into the Early Middle Ages when [they were] taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."


Please provide evidence for this claim.

 

[meauneau]

Sooo..... you should like....point it out to me... right? And should be able to do it pretty easily, right?

So you deny that you have evidence for your claims? What were you being dishonest?

 

[lfd0311]

So you are saying that there is no Jesus?

So you deny that you have evidence for your claims? What were you being dishonest?

Can you read? Because if you can't it does me no good to state my position in the exact same words again, does it?

 

[meauneau]

Can you read? Because if you can't it does me no good to state my position in the exact same words again, does it?

So you did post evidence, lol. You funny guy.

 

[lfd0311]

But what is the evidence for it?

Again, your claim (corrected for "letters" instead of "diary") is as follows:


"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's [letters] containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in [their] original form into the Early Middle Ages when [they were] taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."


Please provide evidence for this claim.

I know what my claim is. I also know the basis for it. I feel know obligation to justify it to you, mainly because of the pretentious, smug, self important goof manner in which you always behave, as if you're an expert on all things, the intellectual authority of the world and the rest of us have to justify our knowledge to you. It should have become apparent, once again, that that isn't the case.

 

[lfd0311]

So you did post evidence, lol. You funny guy.

What was my initial point. See if you can correctly understand that. That will clear up all of your massive confusion.

 

[meauneau]

But what is the evidence for it?

Again, your claim (corrected for "letters" instead of "diary") is as follows:


"It is a well documented fact that Pontius Pilate's [letters] containing his writings about his time in Judah and his interactions with the man who came to be know as Jesus survived more or less in [their] original form into the Early Middle Ages when [they were] taken by monks to a monastery where the current canonical story of Jesus was created, and the actual history of the real man and Pontius Pilate destroyed."


Please provide evidence for this claim.

I wish I could read, because if I could I would read the evidence in his posts for these claims.

 

[meauneau]

What was my initial point. See if you can correctly understand that. That will clear up all of your massive confusion.

Link me to the post and I will tell you. Can you do that for me?

 

[Fawlty]

I know what my claim is. I also know the basis for it. I feel know obligation to justify it to you, mainly because of the pretentious, smug, self important goof manner in which you always behave, as if you're an expert on all things, the intellectual authority of the world and the rest of us have to justify our knowledge to you. It should have become apparent, once again, that that isn't the case.

So let's agree that you are refusing to provide evidence for your claim that Pilate wrote letters about Jesus, that the letters survived and were later destroyed in a monastery where the modern view of Jesus was fabricated.

Do we agree that you are refusing to provide any evidence for this?

 

[HomerThompson]

I know what my claim is. I also know the basis for it. I feel know obligation to justify it to you, mainly because of the pretentious, smug, self important goof manner in which you always behave, as if you're an expert on all things, the intellectual authority of the world and the rest of us have to justify our knowledge to you. It should have become apparent, once again, that that isn't the case.

*no

 

[Trotsky]

I did. You seem to believe that not only are you an expert on the bible, but you're also an expert on literally everyone in the world in the field of Biblical Scholarship, not to mention archeological study in the area. Given your own obvious self assumed credentials in this matter, it should be easy for you to both tell me what I'm talking about, and explain my position for me. I wait in great anticipation.

I don't think I've even seen someone so very rustled by the mere request for documentation of something that you have repeatedly said is well-documented. I mean....if you can't/won't provide evidence, then why not just tuck tail and run from the thread two pages ago instead of making yourself look more foolish? You're basically engaging in an argument to the effect of "I have evidence for this claim, but I'm not going to answer your request for it because you requesting it is very arrogant."

I also have no horse in this race/topic.

 

[lfd0311]

So let's agree that you are refusing to provide evidence for your claim that Pilate wrote letters about Jesus, that the letters survived and were later destroyed in a monastery where the modern view of Jesus was fabricated.

Do we agree that you are refusing to provide any evidence for this?

I think it was pretty much already provided, to some extent. By you and others. Should we agree on that? I mean, you even liked the post?

 

[meauneau]

I don't think I've even seen someone so very rustled by the mere request for documentation of something that you have repeatedly said is well-documented. I mean....if you can't/won't provide evidence, then why not just tuck tail and run from the thread two pages ago instead of making yourself look more foolish? You're basically engaging in an argument to the effect of "I have evidence for this claim, but I'm not going to answer your request for it because you requesting it is very arrogant."

I also have no horse in this race/topic.

But even if he showed the evidence we cannot read it according to him.