Stipe Miocic still unsure why he's got doubters

[djacobox372]

too many ** on his best wins:

*Overeem nearly stopped him before he was predictably ktfo like he often is.

* Werdum offered him his chin on a silver platter, not much to learn from that fight

*JDS beat him before he had the career beaten out of him by Cain

*He beat AA the same way so many others have, nothing much proven there

*Out wrestling Ngannou is hardly an achievement--he has no ground game. Couldn't stop a guy on the ground who was basically helpless for 5 rounds.

oh.. and he never beat Cain, Lesnar, Couture, or Fedor

I always considered Stipe a "gatekeeper" quality HW, yet I've favored him in all his winning matchups except werdum--which werdum threw more than stipe wining.

 

[TestosterOWN]

I like him. Seems like a funny goofball type of guy. Most of the closeted homosexual MMA fans love when their HW fighters look like this

They can't really tug one out to Stipe.

 

[Ginger patty]

modern MMA fans for some reason think HWs aren't good at fighting, despite the fact everyone else cuts weight to avoid fighting them.

No, it's just that MMA has a shallow talent pool when it comes to HWs, because the really good athletes that size are making millions playing other sports.

Like there's no one in any other sport that I thought would've been better than LeBron at basketball if they'd played it from a young age, but I get the feeling that a few NFL/MLB/NBA guys would be at least as good as Stipe if they'd had a similar amount of martial arts training.

 

[MakeSherdogGreatAgain]

Everyone I know thinks DC is going to lose, so I'm not sure where Stipe is getting that from. Everyone I know also picked Stipe against Ngannou. I don't personally know anyone that doubts Stipe anymore. I see people doubting him when I occasionally get on sherdog, but that's about it.

I think DC is a very tough fight for anyone. It's not that I doubt Stipe, I just think DC is on the same level as Stipe. For me, this fight is a toss up.

 

[campbecc]

No, it's just that MMA has a shallow talent pool when it comes to HWs, because the really good athletes that size are making millions playing other sports.

really good athlete and really good fighter are not the same thing. HW has a small talent pool for the same reason flyweight does, a small percentage of the population are either size. They are still the best fighters with the exception of some LHWs.

the idea there are no pro sports that pay a lot for guys in the LW-MW range is just not true. That's were most soccer players, baseball players, tennis players and even hockey players would fall after a weight cut.

 

[ostlerrage]

Statistically, Stipe Miocic is the best heavyweight in UFC history.



No one has more consecutive title defenses in the weight class than him. Not Cain Velasquez. Not Brock Lesnar. Not Tim Sylvia or Randy Couture. And for his next title defense, Miocic is more than a 2-1 favorite around -265.



But still, he thinks he’s still got his fair share of doubters out there – just like he had when he beat Francis Ngannou. And when he beat Junior Dos Santos. And when he beat Alistair Overeem.



“(It’s) just like every fight – I feel like everyone’s not really giving me a chance, like I’m a washed-up fighter or something like that,” Miocic told reporters at a media lunch today in Los Angeles.



It’s likely Cormier’s unbeaten record as a heavyweight, prior to his run at light heavyweight, that has people thinking he can beat Miocic. And there’s the romantic notion of what it would mean for Cormier to become a concurrent two-division UFC champion. He has his supporters, without question.



“‘DC’ is an amazing fighter, of course – one of the best in both weight classes: heavyweight and light heavyweight,” Miocic said. “He’s going to go out there and try to do what he does. But unfortunately, he’s not going to get it. I’m going to walk out with the belt still wrapped around my waist.”



That “and still” mantra has been what Miocic has been living on in nearly every interview for a long time now. But he hasn’t failed at it yet. Now he’s got arguably the biggest fight of his career on a huge stage with big implications for the challenger.



It could be argued that Miocic doesn’t have nearly as much to gain as Cormier does, but the stakes like that don’t mean a lot to the blue-collar Ohioan, who still works as a firefighter in between training for title fights.



But Miocic knows one thing: This is a huge fight between two of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world right now.



“There are a lot of great fighters on the roster, but yeah – it’s a superfight,” Miocic said. “(Demetrious) ‘Mighty Mouse’ (Johnson), Max (Holloway) and Brian (Ortega) … So many good champions. But right now, it’s a superfight and it’s what everyone wants to see. I’m excited, too.



“I’d fight anyone – ‘DC,’ Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar, whoever (after this). Whoever they want me to fight, I’ll fight. Right now, it’s ‘DC,’ so that’s all I’m worried about.”

https://mmajunkie.com/2018/07/ufc-2...-daniel-cormier/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Simple answer. Cain Velasquez. Sea level cain runs though everyone.

 

[Kumason]

It's nothing personal, I doubt every single HW when they fight. You never know when one stray punch can land on the chin and put them to sleep

I don't have much of a point and the possibility of a big shot landing is obviously highest in the HW division but statistically HW is the easiest division to pick overall.I'm just pointing it out because it's an interesting and somewhat surprising fact.Source is Tapology.

 

[Summoning]

People don't even know what they're looking at

Someone tried to say Fedor was a better striker than him

STFU

 

[Krazy NightTrain]

It feels like people are just waiting for the next Champ. The UFC is so used to turning over in that division, it's what people are used to. They aren't used to somebody #andstill. I think the UFC is just terrible with their lack of promoting the guy. He's your champ of the heavyweight division, a good dude, and a damn fireman... and nothing.

I'd be kinda passive aggressive too if I were him, having your coach put that strap around his waist instead of Dana. I wonder when the UFC is going to start promoting their fighters, it seems like all they're concerned with is their name and brand, and not the fighters... it's weird, because in boxing, nobody gives a shit about the promotion. (anyone interested in a GREAT documentary on Don King, there's a PBS one on youtube I watched the other day... probably from the 90s, still really good).

Anyways, I got DC winning in a decision. As long as he doesn't keep doing that stupid ducking move and get knocked out. Should be a good fight either way.

 

[wisdom blows]

Because the HW division is completely shop worn and Stipe is about the only fighter in his prime fighting there right now. Everyone and their grandmother has KOd Overeem, and JDS has been shot for half a decade. Mark Hunt is 44 years old, and Werdum ran into him face first. Stipe is a really good HW, but he is very much right place at the right time.

 

[sonofjay817]

He seems to normal-ish. We expect the baddest of badasses to be cut from a different cloth, and although I'm sure he is, he just doesn't come across like it. And then there's optics. I've heard analysts say he great at mangaging distance, and has great footwork and at cutting off the cage but my untrained eyes doesn't see any of that. somehow it just seems like he wins. sort of like Volkan but not as dramatic. Also, that stance...he just sort of stands there with his fists balled up at stomach level. It looks the stance of a big brawling non-professional redneck in the bar parking lot. None of that is meant as a critique, just an observation. He's obviously doing a lot of things right, somehow he just doesn't seem all that athletic in the fluidity of his movements.

 

[sonofjay817]

Because the HW division is completely shop worn and Stipe is about the only fighter in his prime fighting there right now. Everyone and their grandmother has KOd Overeem, and JDS has been shot for half a decade. Mark Hunt is 44 years old, and Werdum ran into him face first. Stipe is a really good HW, but he is very much right place at the right time.

Yeah, its hard to believe that many planets could have just happened to have aligned for him, but I have to think I agree with you which is why I'm picking Cormier.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Stipe lacks star power for a few reasons.

His name is Croation and Americans have a hard time pronoucing his name, let alone remembering it.

A good nickname could do him wonders

While technically sound, Stipes style isnt very aestetically pleasing. He looks awkward, but hey he wins.

Obviously he isnt great on the mic and i dont see him doing any real work in the aspect.

His stardom will rise if he just keeps winning. Easier said than done in that division

Im curious to see how his wrestling holds up. Dc winning would really make HW look weaker than it already does.

I believe that division has really died which is another reason im not overly impressed

 

[Sansnom]

modern MMA fans for some reason think HWs aren't good at fighting, despite the fact everyone else cuts weight to avoid fighting them.

Yea, I heard Mighty Mouse cuts weight to avoid HWs.

 

[magicmarker]

You can be raised from the dead and people will doubt you in this world.

Is normal.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Stipe needs to fight more 0-1 japan fake pro wrasslers…than the pride nerds would love him lol!!

 

[Final Say]

STFU

Dude the striking isn't even comparable between Fedor and Stipe

Stipe is that much better

 

[Kryptt]

I think he confuses doubt with disinterest...

 

[Gilday]

I've picked against him in EVERY fight (Except Ngannou) since Roy Nelson, and I'm honestly not sure why. I like the guy and I do root for him, but I just always feel like he's prone to getting KO'ed even though it never happens

Maybe I'm just retarded

 

[Summoning]

Dude the striking isn't even comparable between Fedor and Stipe

Stipe is that much better

Let´s see...

Stipe.. Dropped by Econoreem.

In the post fight interview with rogan he said he was dropped by a kick, didn't remember the punch.

Stipe dropped and outstrike by JDS.

Literally schooled by Struve and Koed.

In the other hand Fedor was dropped on his feets for the first time in his career by Maldonado. Fedor was 40 years coming out of retirement after +40 MMA fights..

And he still managed to win the next two rounds to get the decision.

Nothing more to said.