Stipe Miocic is the only man who has ever finished Daniel Cormier

How many of those fine young lads have injected of substance that's banned in the sport. Has been cheating his whole life and got the UFC to cover his ass because he's the biggest money-maker?

how many D1 collegiate athletes takes Peds?

is this a serious question?
 
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I’ve only mentioned him in response to others. I truly don’t care about jones, particularly as it pertains to this topic, but also in the sense that I don’t have a lot of time for proven steroid cheats.
You obviously care....are obviously living in a bubble....
 
The arguments in this thread are enough to melt a brain

Jones tested positive for steroid metabolites vs DC 2. No, if you fast-forward to today, that would not be overlooked today because there is no minimum threshold for steroid metabolites today

His steroid metabolites were ignored in subsequent tests - SINCE THEN AFTER THE INITIAL DETECTION - because USADA "could not prove reingestion." If you're too stupid to understand what that means, then enjoy your ignorance
 
And if we're talking about KOs that happened "in real life" then Tito's KO loss to Lee Murray should be on Tito's record because even though it isn't acknowledged by sanctioning bodies "it still happened"
 
Factually "No contest" implies there was no contest that took place.

If nothing else can we agree that it's a fact we witnessed a contest that night and one man was acknowledged as the winners of said contest for the next 7 days?

I like you dude but we've been down this road before and it's a lose lose for both of us but I think at least agreeing on the above is a solid compromise.

Of course they actually did fight.... my point is that its meaningless because one was on steroids. Ignoring that steroids make a difference is absolutely silly.

Do you think Jon Jones would accept a fight against DC where DC is on steroids and Jones has to be clean and drug tested? Of course he wouldn't... because he knows steroids give a huge advantage.
 
@Final Say slow your roll.. dc and stipe are 1-1. Stipe wont get lucky in a third fight.
 
What? Everything I said is a fact: jones was not cleared, he was suspended because he was guilty of having steroid metabolites in his blood and Jeff novitzky is an employee of the UFC and not usada.

These are not opinions, they’re facts. You sound very sure of yourself for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.


I do appreciate that you stand by Stipe to the very end.

That said, you keep saying "facts"....

In all my years here, I've never seen anyone with such blatantly biased commentary that filters the Hel out of what they see.
 
Jones has the craziest TDD I've ever seen. It's unreal.

That's why I really want to one day see him against Blaydes (I'm probably the only person other than Blaydes' mom who wants to see that fight lol). I just wanna see what happens when Jones fights a bigger, stronger wrestler who can match him with cardio.
 
It’s a heavyweight fight. It’s way, way different. Even a jump from 55-70 is significant, this is way bigger.

I fail to see how a fatter DC would do any better against Jones.

He still has the exact same weaknesses.
 
I fail to see how a fatter DC would do any better against Jones.

He still has the exact same weaknesses.
Jones moving up and fighting anyone at heavyweight, including DC, is totally unknown
 
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