Stipe’s win over Frank looking pretty good right now

[RonDante]

not even anywhere close to the same thing.

Why not?

 

[MartinGibson86]

I trust his words more than some internet loser with an agenda. Why would he lie in that situation? Youre grasping at straws. Dude said it was the biggest learning lesson of his career but yeah he must be lying because you said so.

What was the Lewis fight, then?

That was the new improved, learned Frank lol


He learned how to be gunshy and fearful i guess

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Yea he learned how to be tentative af in his very next fight against Lewis lol


Stipe fought DC 3x before the rematch


"Derr Frank SAID he learned a lot" lol

I think the Lewis fight obviously showed he had a lot to learn, probably gunshy after the Stipe loss but really didnt know what to do at all if he wasnt rushing someone and unloading.

By the time of the Stipe rematch I think you can see he was able to fight in a much more measured fashion whilst carrying significant threat and was able to punish Stipe shooting for a takedown from outside.

To me that much does show a weakness I think Stipe always had, I think he's always tended to be very dependant on game planning opponents, finding holes and exploiting them. Credit to him he's done it very well across multiple matchs and has enough of a skill set to do it but I think he benefited from fighting a lot of opponents who gave him those openings.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Last nights supposed loss was more of a win, and no one did shit in that black beast fight, so definitely wasn’t beaten, but in the first Stipe fight, he was beat to the punch standing, and completely dominated on the ground.

That version of Stipe had a chip on his shoulder and was never going to lose that fight. The bombs he absorbed were crazy.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

You’re claiming that becuase ngannou beat the worst stipe we’ve ever seen, that he’s better than stipe, and that takedown threat is why stipe outstruck ngannou in the early rounds, even though ngannou didn’t adjust to the threat at all and just kept swinging

Ngannou is better than Stipe. Takedown threat opens up the strikes. Ngannou kept swinging, cause thats literally the only way he wins that one. That was 5-6 years ago. Stefan Struve is better than Stipe, because 10-12 years ago he KO'd him, bad.

 

[RonDante]

Ngannou is better than Stipe. Takedown threat opens up the strikes. Ngannou kept swinging, cause thats literally the only way he wins that one. That was 5-6 years ago. Stefan Struve is better than Stipe, because 10-12 years ago he KO'd him, bad.

Except ngannou didn’t look to defend the takedowns, he just kept striking, and stipe kept out striking him. Ngannou is better than stipe now. In their primes stipe is better

 

[TheBulge]

Prime Stipe is the best HW we've ever seen. Only prime JDS could beat him and maybe Ubereem had a shot. Ngannou has a puncher's chance against anybody.

Also anybody who thinks the lean, light, old Stipe coming off 3 DC wars was anywhere near his prime when Ngannou beat him is as stupid as those who think Ngannou was "green" as a 31 year old knock out artist on a 6-0 run in the UFC including KO's over all time greats Arlovski and Overeem.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Except ngannou didn’t look to defend the takedowns, he just kept striking, and stipe kept out striking him. Ngannou is better than stipe now. In their primes stipe is better

because ngannou's chances to win, are by landing a strike, not defending potential takedowns. ngannou is better than stipe, and 5-6 years ago stipe beat him. 10-12 years ago stefan struve beat stipe. so therefore, stefan struve in his prime, he was better than stipe, and therefore, ngannou. Stefan Struve is the true HW goat. Because he out striked a younger, more athletic Stipe.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Ngannou is better than Stipe. Takedown threat opens up the strikes. Ngannou kept swinging, cause thats literally the only way he wins that one. That was 5-6 years ago. Stefan Struve is better than Stipe, because 10-12 years ago he KO'd him, bad.

Actually no, he didn't ko him "bad"


An eyepoke started it and Stipe rocked Struve several times

They were both prospects.


Stipe dominated Frank for the belt, professor

 

[Stagliano]

young stipe had a pretty damn good chin. he took some shots from francis, hunt, and JDS.

What about the shot from DC?

 

[Stagliano]

Looks good now? It's always looked good.

Stipe made Ngannou do everything he wanted to him that night. He could have showed up to his house and declared himself as the man of the house and Ngannou wouldn't have done a thing.

Why didn't he finish Ngannou, then? He get tagged for the pleasure?

 

[RonDante]

because ngannou's chances to win, are by landing a strike, not defending potential takedowns. ngannou is better than stipe, and 5-6 years ago stipe beat him. 10-12 years ago stefan struve beat stipe. so therefore, stefan struve in his prime, he was better than stipe, and therefore, ngannou. Stefan Struve is the true HW goat. Because he out striked a younger, more athletic Stipe.

Sorry didn’t you say he only outstruck ngannou becuase of the threat of a takedown? And now it’s becuase ngannou was looking for the big punch and didn’t bother to adjust to the takedowns? Stipe was close to his prime, and he got caught. It happens. Ngannous prime was only 5 percent better than the ngannou that fought stipe, and it started when he learned to throw straighter and add a leg kick.That’s it. Oh, and a sweep against the even worse grappler Ciryl gane, who should have gotten the decision that night anyways

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Actually no, he didn't ko him "bad"


An eyepoke started it and Stipe rocked Struve several times

They were both prospects.


Stipe dominated Frank for the belt, professor

Stefan Struve, the HW GOAT, landed many uppercuts and rights, that dropped Stipe. So therefore, the 10-12 year ago version of Stefan Struve, is without a doubt the GOAT, for destroying the even younger and more athletic 5-6 year ago Stipe.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Sorry didn’t you say he only outstruck ngannou becuase of the threat of a takedown? And now it’s becuase ngannou was looking for the big punch and didn’t bother to adjust to the takedowns? Stipe was close to his prime, and he got caught. It happens. Ngannous prime was only 5 percent better than the ngannou that fought stipe, and it started when he learned to throw straighter and add a leg kick.That’s it. Oh, and a sweep against the even worse grappler Ciryl gane, who should have gotten the decision that night anyways

Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, because 10-12 years ago he beat the younger, more athletic Stipe, with multiple uppercuts and rights, in a stand up affair. Therefore, Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, for beating the better version of the 5-6 years ago Stipe.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Stefan Struve, the HW GOAT, landed many uppercuts and rights, that dropped Stipe. So therefore, the 10-12 year ago version of Stefan Struve, is without a doubt the GOAT, for destroying the even younger and more athletic 5-6 year ago Stipe.

You're all over the place dude. Cool sig btw


Stipe is 1-1 against Frank...both title fights.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, because 10-12 years ago he beat the younger, more athletic Stipe, with multiple uppercuts and rights, in a stand up affair. Therefore, Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, for beating the better version of the 5-6 years ago Stipe.

Was it a title fight?

 

[RonDante]

Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, because 10-12 years ago he beat the younger, more athletic Stipe, with multiple uppercuts and rights, in a stand up affair. Therefore, Stefan Struve is the HW GOAT, for beating the better version of the 5-6 years ago Stipe.

No one in this thread said stipe is the goat becuase he beat ngannou. And again, ngannou in the first stipe fight and prime ngannou are barely a different fighter

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

You're all over the place dude. Cool sig btw


Stipe is 1-1 against Frank...both title fights.

and Stipe is 0-1 against the true HW GOAT, Stefan Struve.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Was it a title fight?

Did Stipe lose to Stefan Struve 10-12 years ago? That version of Struve would have annihilated anyone, past and present. That version is the true HW GOAT and we should always go back in the years, to find examples, that support our dumbass observations.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

No one in this thread said stipe is the goat becuase he beat ngannou. And again, ngannou in the first stipe fight and prime ngannou are barely a different fighter

The version of Stefan Struve 10-12 years ago would destroy every HW out there. Stefan Struve defeated Stipe 10-12 years ago, therefore we should all suddenly care and think of the ramifications of such a illustrious career and victory.