Stephen King creates diversity controversy

[Fedorable]

Has he apologized yet?

yes, of course.

 

[jx820]

It's not like there are dozens of great options that are being snubbed. If audiences go see minority and female led dramas, the industry will make more of them. Law of averages suggests some will be good. The quality approach would work well in that scenario.

but The Farewell is a golden globe winning film with 98% on RT and it's only made 19 million. If you're a producer would you rather invest a few million in another minority led drama and hope lighting strikes twice, or develop a horror movie about pretty white kids that's going to make 30+ million even if it's shit.

You can't bitch at hollywood, for not investing in things you wont pay for.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

Who decides what's good quality?

My boss was a SAG member and got picked to vote for the Oscars one year. He let me take the films home and me and my roomates voted for him. Some college kids on drugs, basically.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I agree with King but Akwafina was fantastic in the Farewell , surprised she wasn't nominated .

 

[SammyPops]

How are minorities ever going to advance in society if they're not getting awards in Hollywood bro?

They dominate the 0prn industry and awards, so there's that.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I agree with King but Akwafina was fantastic in the Farewell , surprised she wasn't nominated .

comedies and comedy actors rarely ever get nominated for an Qscar even if they do fall somewhat in the drama genre.

 

[deviake]

From the same article:

King later added: "The most important thing we can do as artists and creative people is make sure everyone has the same fair shot, regardless of sex, color, or orientation.

"Right now such people are badly under-represented, and not only in the arts.

"You can't win awards if you're shut out of the game."

Maybe this was damage control, maybe not. The triggered comments beneath it (the tweet) from people who were probably on his side at the start are funny though

Never been a King nor a drama fan so it's meh to me either way

 

[Brother Numsi]

It's insane that a guy like Stephen King who is about as Left as you could possibly get is getting "dragged" on social media for speaking the truth.

I love seeing the same folks cry about diversity every time award season comes around the corner and there aren't enough "POC" nominated. It really just reeks of entitlement on the highest level. I remember when Denzel Washington won the Oscar for Training Day and some reporter asked him "why didn't the Academy reward him years before for his best performance?" Denzel was like, "Al Pacino was nominated like 8 times before he won an Academy award for Scent of a Woman. Did you hear Pacino complain how he should have won for The Godfather movies or Serpico?"

 

[King Joffery]

Is there anything wrong with what he said?

an acting performance isn't good, simply because a woman, POC, or LGBTQ person is performing.

Its wrong to think these people actually want a system based on merit.

King should have known better, he is pretty woke himself so you'd think he'd know their thought process by now.

 

[King Joffery]

From the same article:

King later added: "The most important thing we can do as artists and creative people is make sure everyone has the same fair shot, regardless of sex, color, or orientation.

"Right now such people are badly under-represented, and not only in the arts.

"You can't win awards if you're shut out of the game."

Maybe this was damage control, maybe not. The triggered comments beneath it (the tweet) from people who were probably on his side at the start are funny though

Never been a King nor a drama fan so it's meh to me either way

lol, what a cowardly backpedaler. Hope they burn him at the stake for his crimes against diversity in art.

 

[Steve-French]

So the point of your thread is people are complaining about something on Twitter?

Is this a thread about Twitter comments?

This is an internet message board and the topic is very relevant to political discourse. Just because these people that are throwing a shit-fit over King's comments share some of your views doesn't mean what they are saying isn't toxic to society.

 

[trac209]

If there is ever a word that should be tossed out of the dictionary at this point it’s” diversity “....

 

[Darkballs]

Because we've definitely never seen anyone lose anything over a few off-handed remarks recently, such as their job.

Stephen King won't suffer much, because there's really nothing anyone can do about him. He has already cemented his legacy. The same wouldn't necessarily apply to someone who occupied a less independent position.

But then you'd have the cries of "employers have the right to protect their brand and fire anybody" and "free speech has consequences" from the hordes of so-called "pro-worker", "pro-free speech" left-wingers, today turned into regressive corporate drones.

When their plot to throw their weight around does not succeed, the narrative is "well, who cares, it's just Twitter", and when somebody does have their life ruined, the narrative is "he deserved it, there are consequences to your words, corporations need to protect their interests, blah blah".

In every such scenario you're going to see the same pretenders apologizing for that type of behaviour, in whatever way they can. It is weak and predictable at this point.

Well your argument just made a 180. We started with "King will be crucified for this," and are now at "Well nothing will happen to King at all, but lets looks at the larger problem."

Lets break the whole issue down:

-King said that when voting for the Oscars, he's just gonna focus on the talent and not let race factor in.
-Two people on twitter were quoted by the media for tweeting outraged responses.

And that's it. That's the whole story.

Now the reason the MSM puts stories like these out there, are exactly because of people like you. They know you eat this shit up and beg for the next dish to get pissed off about. Often, your ilk uses it as an opportunity to draw incredibly broad conclusions about a particular class, the media as a whole, or a political party; based on such a non-issue. The media isn't posting these stories because there are hordes of people who would also be outraged at King. They are posting it because they know that there are hordes of people like you on the prowl for outrage porn every day. This forum is flooded with this dumb shit.

So, you want the media to stop running stories like this? Then stop fucking clicking on the links.

 

[MoneyGun]

King gets what he fucking deserves.

 

[TheLinguist]

Nothing wrong with what he said.

Just a bunch of agenda pushing cunts and morons would be mad at the man for what he said.

 

[nhbbear]

This is so ridiculous. King had no problem allowing a black actress to play the role of Abra Stone in Dr Sleep. In the book, she is a blonde girl. But they criticize him for saying that he values quality over race

 

[Islam Imamate]

King gets what he fucking deserves.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Oh King... Just stand by your original statement. No need to amend it. You were right, but your inner need to be accepted, is a sad sight to see.

 

[esotamoc]

If there is ever a word that should be tossed out of the dictionary at this point it’s” diversity “....

"inter sectional" and "intersecting identities" are terms that I loathe as well.

 

[MPD-Psycho]

So he was correct but some people got mad for some reason :S