Star Trek: Discovery V3.0 (First Trailer Released)

[Clippy]

That would be awesome and I bet most hardcore fans would be pleased. Imagine cameos from fans favorite from TNG, VOY, DS9, awesome.

Since most of these actors are old today, it would work perfectly. Unfortunately, ENT cameos would not work, the characters would be too old for that...

They could do another Scotty was stuck in suspended transporter status thing again

 

[Metal_Daze]

They could do another Scotty was stuck in suspended transporter status thing again

Imagine T-Pol stuck in transporter buffers. When they release her, she emerges at her prime in full catsuit...

 

[The Clinch]

That would be awesome and I bet most hardcore fans would be pleased. Imagine cameos from fans favorite from TNG, VOY, DS9, awesome.

Since most of these actors are old today, it would work perfectly. Unfortunately, ENT cameos would not work, the characters would be too old for that...

Well I mean what's a Denoblian lifespan?

ENT had some pretty neat cameos having previous nonalien actors playing aliens and the like. I imagine that'll possibly happen again.

 

[The Clinch]

Imagine T-Pol stuck in transporter buffers. When they release her, she emerges at her prime in full catsuit...

Isn't the actress that played T-Pol kinda bothered by the fandom side of things? Maybe did one convention?

Can't say that I blame her.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Isn't the actress that played T-Pol kinda bothered by the fandom side of things? Maybe did one convention?

Can't say that I blame her.

I don't really follow conventions and greet and meet but I never saw her on promos or in pictures. ENT was most likely the least popular Trek and very few of the actors seem to appeal to hardcore fans. T-Pol and Archer (Jolene and Scott) are the only fan favorite of ENT. Scott does appear on pictures now and then.

He was at Star Trek 50 in Las Vegas:

In contrast, VOY is hated by a lot of hardcore fans but the actors have a lot of appeal with fans, especially Janeway, The Doctor and Seven.

 

[The Clinch]

I don't really follow conventions and greet and meet but I never saw her on promos or in pictures. ENT was most likely the least popular Trek and very few of the actors seem to appeal to hardcore fans. T-Pol and Archer (Jolene and Scott) are the only fan favorite of ENT. Scott does appear on pictures now and then.

He was at Star Trek 50 in Las Vegas:

Dude's aging well.

As much as I thought he'd be a good fit as captain when he was announced, oh boy was I wrong. His character and acting were all over the place.

T-Pol actually became one of my favorite characters on the show by the end of it. Initially just sex appeal, she seemed to be able to break past that barrier and have an interesting character.

When it comes to the main cast, Phlox was the best. If there was a character from Enterprise to carrier over, somehow, I wish it'd be him.

Tucker grew on me, as he reminds me of a few people I know. He provided some really good moments to the show.

The rest of the characters were meh, and it isn't totally the actors fault.

Other than that, the rumored season 5 sounds like it would have been pretty good, especially considering Shran was supposedly coming aboard fulltime.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Dude's aging well.

As much as I thought he'd be a good fit as captain when he was announced, oh boy was I wrong. His character and acting were all over the place.

T-Pol actually became one of my favorite characters on the show by the end of it. Initially just sex appeal, she seemed to be able to break past that barrier and have an interesting character.

When it comes to the main cast, Phlox was the best. If there was a character from Enterprise to carrier over, somehow, I wish it'd be him.

Tucker grew on me, as he reminds me of a few people I know. He provided some really good moments to the show.

The rest of the characters were meh, and it isn't totally the actors fault.

Other than that, the rumored season 5 sounds like it would have been pretty good, especially considering Shran was supposedly coming aboard fulltime.

I must be a contrarian because I liked Scott as Archer. I have to admit that if I had to rank Captains, he would come last anyway. Phlox was awesome and Shran is a fan favorite (and personal favorite of mine). I prefer Weyoun to Shran but both characters were great. ENT would have been great with more Shran but season 4 was so all over the place, there was no way a season 5 was possible...

An actor I would have like to see get more air time and other roles in Star Trek universe is Andrew Robinson (Garak). Yes, he was overacting a lot but his work is always spectacular nonetheless. Another underappreciated actor was Vaughn Armstrong (Admiral Forrest on ENT). He played at least 6 different characters in different shows but he never got a recurring role before Admiral Forrest.

It's nice to speak about Star Trek, none of my friends are into it at all.

 

[Adamant]

I remember trying to get into ENT. I tried and tried. Just couldn't do it. The show sucked. Was definitely boring as hell.

 

[The Clinch]

I must be a contrarian because I liked Scott as Archer. I have to admit that if I had to rank Captains, he would come last anyway. Phlox was awesome and Shran is a fan favorite (and personal favorite of mine). I prefer Weyoun to Shran but both characters were great. ENT would have been great with more Shran but season 4 was so all over the place, there was no way a season 5 was possible...

An actor I would have like to see get more air time and other roles in Star Trek universe is Andrew Robinson (Garak). Yes, he was overacting a lot but his work is always spectacular nonetheless. Another underappreciated actor was Vaughn Armstrong (Admiral Forrest on ENT). He played at least 6 different characters in different shows but he never got a recurring role before Admiral Forrest.

It's nice to speak about Star Trek, none of my friends are into it at all.

I don't feel Robinson was overacting as Garak, he simply became him and it showed. Garak is one of my favorite characters from Star Trek period. Dude was layered all to hell and they could have done so much more with him if they chose to. Unfortunately I think Robinson retired from acting and is now pretty involved with teaching and whatnot at USC. Great character and great acting, loved how he could go from charming/honorable to sinister in the drop of a hat and would do what needed to be done, regardless of morality.

Another group of characters are Nog, Quark, and Rom. These guys played their roles perfectly and it's as if you could tell they enjoyed it. Sisko and O'Brien are probably my favorite two out of the main squad. Odo started off kinda shit because of the justice/law thing but he really had a lot of development and the Odd Couple business with Quark was great.

DS9 might have had the best cast overall, from main to supporting to guests. Martok, Weyoun, Ishka, Damar, Brunt, I mean shit.. There are so many great characters. Didn't really care for Ezri and by the end of DS9 Worf seemed to have hit a wall and was pretty annoying and a broken record.

I remember trying to get into ENT. I tried and tried. Just couldn't do it. The show sucked. Was definitely boring as hell.

Somewhere in the middle of the 2nd season I think I slowly started to warm up to it. Season 3 was decent enough that I would look forward to watching it and by season 4 I though it was a good enough show. ...but that first season. Euh.

All this reminds me I need to finish Voyager. Think I'm midway through "Inside Man".

 

[sverre054]

I grew up loving TNG. If you could advise a book series, or a first book to buy to start out. I've heard that ST fiction has been very good in recent years but I don't know more than that.

Amazon product ASIN 1451657242
Star Trek : Destiny

It sort of relaunched the Star trek novels. It is an epic 3 part mini series that follows several crews, and really gets you up to speed on whats happening since TNG, DS9, VOY ended. It takes place a few years after the events of Nemesis. Not only one of the best Trek book, but the best Sci fi books I have read.

If you read destiny you really can jump into any of the other books without having to read 20+ years of novel canon. If you like TNG era, read destiny mini series, then you can follow those up with the typhon pact, then the fall. Otherwise the generally release about 10-15 novels a year. TNG gets the most, then TOS. DS9 Voy and ENT also are starting to come back.

 

[sverre054]

Thank you. I saw it once on TV several years ago and loved it. Haven't been able to find it since. Does Amazon Prime, Hulu, or Netflix play TNG? I'd definitely like to check it out again.

Netflix just signed a new deal the be the international rights holder for the new Trek series, and they also secured the rights to continue streaming all the trek series worldwide. Primes also has some of the series, and of course CBS All access as @JDragon posted already. Netflix will continue to own the rights for the next few years though, as the trek series are one of their highest viewed series. Too bad they just didn't partner with netflix to produce the next series. Gotta fleece the trek fans to launch CBS all access.

 

[sverre054]

Isn't the actress that played T-Pol kinda bothered by the fandom side of things? Maybe did one convention?

Can't say that I blame her.

Jolene Blalock is kinda a reclusive chick. She married the owner of Live Nation(who's insanely rich) and has had a few kids. Conventions would pay her some serious money, but she's so loaded now I doubt we will ever see her do one. She's still smoking hot, so maybe we could see her make a cameo in the new series, if she was so inclined. But her life these days seems to be being a mom, working out, doing humanitarian work, and hanging out with other rich people.




For those who don't know, one of the big perks of getting a role on trek is, you can pretty much always depend on convention revenue. They say it's the trek actor pension plan. Most weekends there is a convention or con somewhere that would love to have actors from trek. They can make between $1000-50K per day.

 

[Cyke_out]

I recently watched trials and tribulations and the voyage episode where they went back in time to earth. Both episodes dealt with the temporal investigations side of star fleet. I'd like to see a series based around a time ship and it's crew. Set in the 29th century. It'd be like a less weirder version of doctor who, cuz doctor who gets so fucking weird I barely consider it science fiction.

 

[sverre054]

Some new info from a radio interview today with Bryan Fuller. Sounds like we will get the official cast announcement in Oct.

Bryan Fuller Delivers New STAR TREK: DISCOVERY Data
By TrekCore Staff -

August 28, 2016

It’s been just a few weeks since STAR TREK: DISCOVERY showrunner Bryan Fuller made his first comments to the setting and casting of the upcoming series, and we’ve all had a great time discussing what his hints towards the new show’s story will be.

In a new interview with Nerd World Report with Hop & Herc last night, Fuller spent nearly forty minutes discussing some more details on DISCOVERY and some of the behind-the-scenes decisions going into 2017’s new Star Trek adventure.


An early render of the USS Discovery (NCC-1031).
On the choice to set the show in the “Prime” universe, rather than in the world of the Chris Pine-led Kelvin Timeline films:

Really, when we developed this story, it could take place in either Prime or the Kelvin [timeline] – the timeline was relatively inconsequential, but there was the cleanliness of keeping our series independent of the [Abrams] films. That way, we don’t have to track anything they’re doing; they don’t have to track anything we’re doing – and you can have two distinct universes.

I think [the Prime decision] was just part of the conversation. I remember Alex and I talking about it very early on, where it should be, and we felt there was something nice about the Prime universe because there are so many aspects of the Original Series that would be fun to explore with updated production values.

One of the more fan-maddening comments about the new show – which has kept the nerdiest of us digging deep into Star Trek history minutia the last few weeks – is that DISCOVERY will be set about ten years before Captain Kirk’s five-year mission on the USS Enterprise.

Fuller talked some more about choosing that spot on the timeline… and how the passage of time might be portrayed a bit differently in the new series.

[The time period we chose] came pretty organically, because we are going to try to achieve a new look for ‘Star Trek’ that is very much ‘Star Trek,’ but also our interpretation of ‘Star Trek.’ I love each of the shows I work on to have a distinct aesthetic […] so it seemed like a good place to start our signature look for the ‘Star Trek’ universe and work our way forward as we tell the stories.

With the exception of ‘Deep Space Nine’ when it got into the Dominion War, ‘Star Trek’ has been primarily episodic – so I feel like we’ll be different in that regard and will be very serialized. But time is something that we have the opportunity to play with in uncharacteristic ways.

We know what the story is [for future episodes], but no [time travel] yet. You never know when you want to pull out that [storytelling] device, but I am not anticipating a reliance on time travel to tell this season’s story.


Original Klingon design, reimagined for new eras: Next Generation, and the Kelvin Timeline.
He also talked about how modern production values will allow the DISCOVERY team to revamp the look of familiar Star Trek alien species – like the possibly-Andorian antennae he photographed in early August – but also mixing up our expectations of Trekcostume design as well.

One of the very cool things that we get to do on this show is – we get to re-imagine all of the alien species that we’ve seen before in the series, and do something a little unique with that.

We were looking at a specific species’ costume on Friday, and Jesse Alexander, who is one of the writers, was commenting on the cosplay aspects of it, and how [the design] has gone a kind of quantum leap forward – and what were the people who do cosplay going to do?

Another one of our writers was like, “They are going to rise to the occasion!” So for all of us who have fetishized the look of all of the various species over the years of watching ‘Star Trek,’ it’s fun for us to put a new spin on old favorites.

[Uniform design will be] something completely different [from ‘The Cage’]. I think when you see the design, it’s a little bit of this and a little bit of that. We were having a wardrobe test the other day and it was interesting to think, ‘Now we need to take these colors and put them up against the [ship set colors],’ to see what is going to be the best-looking aesthetic for the show, taking in the sets and wardrobe and lighting style.


Composer Ron Jones conducts recording of the “Best of Both Worlds” score.
Star Trek music is a big part of every series and film, and Fuller clearly understands its importance – the showrunner talked at length about the ongoing discussions his team is having about the DISCOVERY score, and how the show’s pre-TOS time period may weigh on the soundtrack.

We’ve talked about the musical approach to this show, because music is so important to ‘Star Trek,’ and it’s the voice in many ways. We all remember the Spock vs. Kirk fight [in ‘Amok Time’] and the score for that – it would be great to pay homage to some of those things.

I don’t think we’d use [the same tracks] specifically, but it’s certainly something that we’ve had discussions about and I don’t yet know if we’re going to commit to that. [The title theme song] is still in discussion.

‘Star Trek’ music is so important and such a fantastic part of the feel of the show. As for [live] orchestral vs. synthetic – there’s a lot of very interesting things happening here musically, and we absolutely have to have orchestral elements in the show, and we talked about how if we don’t have a live orchestra for the show, we’d be the first ‘Star Trek’ television series not to have one.

But you look at how some interesting hybridizations of synth and orchestral scores have serviced ‘Star Trek’ – Jerry Goldsmith’s score for ‘First Contact’ had some fantastic mixed pieces. I also look at what Hans Zimmer does, and I love his score for ‘Interstellar.’

It’s interesting to take a bit of a mix with our approach; we’ll see when we get to that level of the production, but I’m very excited about the music – it’s incredibly important.


Majel Barrett as “Number One.” (TOS: “The Cage”)
One of the new rumors going around the web in the wake of Fuller’s early-August character descriptions is that his lead female officer – who he’s described as “a lieutenant commander, with caveats” – may be Majel Barrett’s “Number One,” Christopher Pike’s first officer in the original Star Trek pilot.

In his discussion, Fuller doesn’t say his lead and “The Cage” officer will be the same person, but does confirm that the “Number One” moniker will return – but clarified when asked that his new character’s real name will be made known during the first season of DISCOVERY.

Our character, when we introduce the protagonist, she is called ‘Number One’ in honor of Majel Barrett’s character in the original pilot.

As we were first talking about the series and talking to CBS, we said, initially, we’ll only call the character ‘Number One’ because in the Sixties, in the first pilot, Gene Roddenberry was very progressive and had a female first officer.

So since [our lead character] is a female first officer, I just loved that we were calling her ‘Number One.’

Finally, looking to the future of DISCOVERY news, Fuller reiterated earlier comments that more news will be coming our way sometime in October – and he also touched on his preference for episode counts of potential future seasons of the show.

We’ll probably have some [casting] announcements in October. As of right now, we’ve met with fantastic actors, and of course there’s people that I’ve worked with before that I would love to have on ‘Star Trek,’ and we’re trying to figure out everybody’s schedules – but we’re very early on in the process.

Right now, they’ve ordered thirteen episodes, and that’s all we’re working on. I would strongly recommend that we never do twenty-six episodes; I think it would fatigue the show. Ideally, I would love to do ten episodes – I think that’s a tighter story – to really make it great.

We’re talking about all sorts of things that we can do to keep ‘Star Trek’ interesting for subscribers to CBS All Access, but right now we’re working on thirteen episodes and they’re going to order more – when they’re ready… or not! [Laughs]

While Bryan Fuller will not be in attendance, something he confirmed in this interview, STAR TREK: DISCOVERYwriters Nick Meyer and Kirsten Beyer will be holding a panel discussion on their Trek history and their joining the new show at the Mission: New Yorkconvention next weekend – and we’ll be there, bringing you any new reveals that pair may offer.

 

[sverre054]

Amazon. UK is having a great sale on the trek Blu rays.

ENT is around $40

TOS $47

TNG $56
That if for the whole series in the newly released Blu ray boxsets. Amazing deals. Yes UK and euro Blu rays work in North American players, and are the exact same sets. Shipping from UK is usually free for prime members and only takes between 5-10 days generally.

 

[JDragon]

Mildly related: The best captain of all times celebrating his Golden Globe nomination:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/patrick-stewart-75-celebrates-golden-globe-134980553985.html

 

[Adamant]

Jolene Blalock is kinda a reclusive chick. She married the owner of Live Nation(who's insanely rich) and has had a few kids. Conventions would pay her some serious money, but she's so loaded now I doubt we will ever see her do one. She's still smoking hot, so maybe we could see her make a cameo in the new series, if she was so inclined. But her life these days seems to be being a mom, working out, doing humanitarian work, and hanging out with other rich people.




For those who don't know, one of the big perks of getting a role on trek is, you can pretty much always depend on convention revenue. They say it's the trek actor pension plan. Most weekends there is a convention or con somewhere that would love to have actors from trek. They can make between $1000-50K per day.

Damn, she's kept it up.

 

[Cyke_out]

Some new info from a radio interview today with Bryan Fuller. Sounds like we will get the official cast announcement in Oct.

Bryan Fuller Delivers New STAR TREK: DISCOVERY Data
By TrekCore Staff -

August 28, 2016

It’s been just a few weeks since STAR TREK: DISCOVERY showrunner Bryan Fuller made his first comments to the setting and casting of the upcoming series, and we’ve all had a great time discussing what his hints towards the new show’s story will be.

In a new interview with Nerd World Report with Hop & Herc last night, Fuller spent nearly forty minutes discussing some more details on DISCOVERY and some of the behind-the-scenes decisions going into 2017’s new Star Trek adventure.


An early render of the USS Discovery (NCC-1031).
On the choice to set the show in the “Prime” universe, rather than in the world of the Chris Pine-led Kelvin Timeline films:

Really, when we developed this story, it could take place in either Prime or the Kelvin [timeline] – the timeline was relatively inconsequential, but there was the cleanliness of keeping our series independent of the [Abrams] films. That way, we don’t have to track anything they’re doing; they don’t have to track anything we’re doing – and you can have two distinct universes.

I think [the Prime decision] was just part of the conversation. I remember Alex and I talking about it very early on, where it should be, and we felt there was something nice about the Prime universe because there are so many aspects of the Original Series that would be fun to explore with updated production values.

One of the more fan-maddening comments about the new show – which has kept the nerdiest of us digging deep into Star Trek history minutia the last few weeks – is that DISCOVERY will be set about ten years before Captain Kirk’s five-year mission on the USS Enterprise.

Fuller talked some more about choosing that spot on the timeline… and how the passage of time might be portrayed a bit differently in the new series.

[The time period we chose] came pretty organically, because we are going to try to achieve a new look for ‘Star Trek’ that is very much ‘Star Trek,’ but also our interpretation of ‘Star Trek.’ I love each of the shows I work on to have a distinct aesthetic […] so it seemed like a good place to start our signature look for the ‘Star Trek’ universe and work our way forward as we tell the stories.

With the exception of ‘Deep Space Nine’ when it got into the Dominion War, ‘Star Trek’ has been primarily episodic – so I feel like we’ll be different in that regard and will be very serialized. But time is something that we have the opportunity to play with in uncharacteristic ways.

We know what the story is [for future episodes], but no [time travel] yet. You never know when you want to pull out that [storytelling] device, but I am not anticipating a reliance on time travel to tell this season’s story.


Original Klingon design, reimagined for new eras: Next Generation, and the Kelvin Timeline.
He also talked about how modern production values will allow the DISCOVERY team to revamp the look of familiar Star Trek alien species – like the possibly-Andorian antennae he photographed in early August – but also mixing up our expectations of Trekcostume design as well.

One of the very cool things that we get to do on this show is – we get to re-imagine all of the alien species that we’ve seen before in the series, and do something a little unique with that.

We were looking at a specific species’ costume on Friday, and Jesse Alexander, who is one of the writers, was commenting on the cosplay aspects of it, and how [the design] has gone a kind of quantum leap forward – and what were the people who do cosplay going to do?

Another one of our writers was like, “They are going to rise to the occasion!” So for all of us who have fetishized the look of all of the various species over the years of watching ‘Star Trek,’ it’s fun for us to put a new spin on old favorites.

[Uniform design will be] something completely different [from ‘The Cage’]. I think when you see the design, it’s a little bit of this and a little bit of that. We were having a wardrobe test the other day and it was interesting to think, ‘Now we need to take these colors and put them up against the [ship set colors],’ to see what is going to be the best-looking aesthetic for the show, taking in the sets and wardrobe and lighting style.


Composer Ron Jones conducts recording of the “Best of Both Worlds” score.
Star Trek music is a big part of every series and film, and Fuller clearly understands its importance – the showrunner talked at length about the ongoing discussions his team is having about the DISCOVERY score, and how the show’s pre-TOS time period may weigh on the soundtrack.

We’ve talked about the musical approach to this show, because music is so important to ‘Star Trek,’ and it’s the voice in many ways. We all remember the Spock vs. Kirk fight [in ‘Amok Time’] and the score for that – it would be great to pay homage to some of those things.

I don’t think we’d use [the same tracks] specifically, but it’s certainly something that we’ve had discussions about and I don’t yet know if we’re going to commit to that. [The title theme song] is still in discussion.

‘Star Trek’ music is so important and such a fantastic part of the feel of the show. As for [live] orchestral vs. synthetic – there’s a lot of very interesting things happening here musically, and we absolutely have to have orchestral elements in the show, and we talked about how if we don’t have a live orchestra for the show, we’d be the first ‘Star Trek’ television series not to have one.

But you look at how some interesting hybridizations of synth and orchestral scores have serviced ‘Star Trek’ – Jerry Goldsmith’s score for ‘First Contact’ had some fantastic mixed pieces. I also look at what Hans Zimmer does, and I love his score for ‘Interstellar.’

It’s interesting to take a bit of a mix with our approach; we’ll see when we get to that level of the production, but I’m very excited about the music – it’s incredibly important.


Majel Barrett as “Number One.” (TOS: “The Cage”)
One of the new rumors going around the web in the wake of Fuller’s early-August character descriptions is that his lead female officer – who he’s described as “a lieutenant commander, with caveats” – may be Majel Barrett’s “Number One,” Christopher Pike’s first officer in the original Star Trek pilot.

In his discussion, Fuller doesn’t say his lead and “The Cage” officer will be the same person, but does confirm that the “Number One” moniker will return – but clarified when asked that his new character’s real name will be made known during the first season of DISCOVERY.

Our character, when we introduce the protagonist, she is called ‘Number One’ in honor of Majel Barrett’s character in the original pilot.

As we were first talking about the series and talking to CBS, we said, initially, we’ll only call the character ‘Number One’ because in the Sixties, in the first pilot, Gene Roddenberry was very progressive and had a female first officer.

So since [our lead character] is a female first officer, I just loved that we were calling her ‘Number One.’

Finally, looking to the future of DISCOVERY news, Fuller reiterated earlier comments that more news will be coming our way sometime in October – and he also touched on his preference for episode counts of potential future seasons of the show.

We’ll probably have some [casting] announcements in October. As of right now, we’ve met with fantastic actors, and of course there’s people that I’ve worked with before that I would love to have on ‘Star Trek,’ and we’re trying to figure out everybody’s schedules – but we’re very early on in the process.

Right now, they’ve ordered thirteen episodes, and that’s all we’re working on. I would strongly recommend that we never do twenty-six episodes; I think it would fatigue the show. Ideally, I would love to do ten episodes – I think that’s a tighter story – to really make it great.

We’re talking about all sorts of things that we can do to keep ‘Star Trek’ interesting for subscribers to CBS All Access, but right now we’re working on thirteen episodes and they’re going to order more – when they’re ready… or not! [Laughs]

While Bryan Fuller will not be in attendance, something he confirmed in this interview, STAR TREK: DISCOVERYwriters Nick Meyer and Kirsten Beyer will be holding a panel discussion on their Trek history and their joining the new show at the Mission: New Yorkconvention next weekend – and we’ll be there, bringing you any new reveals that pair may offer.

There was a lot of stuff in there that doesn't sit well with me.

 

[Bob Gray]

There was a lot of stuff in there that doesn't sit well with me.

Specifically?

 

[Cyke_out]

Specifically?

They specifically repeat reimagining alien species, uniforms, technology... I worry how things will fit in the canon and continuity.