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Special Forces Influencers

See that all the time too.
“ oh you’re not a SWAT? Jump Out Boy, task force this or that officer? Your opinion is invalid

Also police side is also chock full of “experts” with very little background. Taken a bunch of classes with a lot of different trainers who had very little street time and a lot of command staff time, who talked a big game but their actual work and resume don’t back it up.

I’m nothing special on the PD side just 15 plus years as a patrol cop.
- He some military and civil cops, dont like the Penal police and Municipal Guard(Like municipal cops).They say the Brazils most dangerous job aka Penal Police (correctional officer) isnt being a real cop. Even thought the course is hard, they have to have bachellors degrees, unlike the police on some states, and the fact that the guys criticizing are from the old guard, like 80's, when you just needed front teeths to be a cop(serious)
 
What's the deal with Jocko and the alleged murder?

I just found out about the case of 2 SEALs and 2 MARSOC guys trying to embezzle money and murdering the green beret guy who was going to blow the whistle on them.
I don't have any first hand knowledge on the topic.

I have seen guys interviewed talking about how Jocko was always looking for fights. Basically using very lax R.O.E. There is one guy who says he served with him, that basically runs it down (from his point of view).
 
My uncle was a Green Beret in Vietnam... I've never heard him talk about it once.
Same here... my uncle on my dad's side was a Green Beret in Vietnam, and my dad never heard him share a single story about that time.

I never heard him talk about it either.

Like many veterans, he had a tough time readjusting after returning stateside.

Eventually, he went on to build a career as a firefighter.
 
I don’t really listen to Jocko or Goggins anymore, and Tim Kennedy has lost some credibility for me, though I did enjoy his book... it was a good read.

Former Delta Force Operator John "Shrek" McPhee, also known as the Sheriff of Baghdad, is supposed to be the real deal.

The few podcasts I have heard him on, he tells some wild stories, but apparently, he’s a wild dude.

Shawn Ryan seems cool. He doesn’t try to hype himself up as a badass, despite being a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor.
 
That's why I believe all the Nick Cage stories from @Slobodan because it's coming from a trusted source.
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Yeah this guy. He always rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it's the way he marketed himself. The photos of him holding guns just seemed kind of cheesy.

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This guy has to be legit because he's using that same blacker-than-night beard and hair dye that Steven Seagal uses. That stuff is only reserved for the baddest dudes on the planet.
 
Probably is tied to the recruitment numbers as they have dropped off. Even if they are legit, why glorify war / death and market their actions to the youth? Guess paying a guy on youtube is a lot cheaper than making movies lol I work with ex military guys who tell me how their recruiters flat out lied to them about their job classifications and what they were signing up for vs what they actually did. Whole world's a scam anymore and those with less morals are in the best positions to profit and ruin the lives of others for personal gain in a number of industries. And Youtube promoting this shit while scrubbing others with more dissident views on history and other things says a lot.
 
The youtube algorithm has been showing me videos of former special forces/ black ops guys talking to each other about their experiences on podcasts.
At first I wondered if these were real. Any dude can record himself in a dimly lit room and make up stories of him being a badass.
Maybe it's my conception of combat vets is that they stoicly keep their experiences to themselves for the most part. They don't really brag about killing other people.
Especially spec ops guys since a lot of what they do is classified. I always imagined them as people who keep shit close to the chest and avoid attention since their job calls for it.

But here are these videos of guys who are former Seals, green berets, etc. who are talking about how many people they killed in some of them.
I did not imagine special forces guys becoming influencers on social media.

Are these guys real? If they are, how much of what they say is real or permitted for them to disclose? Is this a psy op/recruitment tool by the military?
What do you guys think about this?
Good topic IMO. I have always asked that myself. These vids typically don‘t interest me because of varying blends of smelling like BS, being super cringy or simply poor content.

I tend to think like you, that these guys are all full of shit, but in this day and age, exhibitionism is normal so maybe the boundaries have been pushed and we have legit killers talking about stuff with over the top Hollywood voices and selling shit on YT.
 
Ravens are nothing special. Just security forces on flying status. So just flying security teams.

PJ's are bad-ass though, yeah? Doesn't it take nearly two years to complete their training pipeline?

Ravens sound a bit like RAF Police. RAF Regiment do the heavy Force Protection - defence of Air Bases - including CBRN.
 
PJ's are bad-ass though, yeah? Doesn't it take nearly two years to complete their training pipeline?

Ravens sound a bit like RAF Police. RAF Regiment do the heavy Force Protection - defence of Air Bases - including CBRN.
PJ's are legit.

I think it's 2-3 years. They get jump, dive, halo certified. as well as all their medical training.
 
A former australian special member was arrested here for a contract killing of a bikie president. Took a 300m shot. Worked for Shadows of Hope at the same time. Pretty interesting character.

Other than that, the only special forces influencer I saw was that huge drunk methed up navy seal getting arrested that had the cops shitting themselves. That was pretty funny to watch. Climbing out his window like a bear lol.

most of the guys you're talking about come across like grifters similar to Wes Watson. Spend a little bit of time in or adjacent to something most people don't know about like prison or special forces and you can fool most regular people.
 
Their job is to entertain, not inform. Unless you think they're spreading disinformation.

I don't follow any, but have some information from previous generations.

The SAS had a failed mission in the Gulf War. One of the men on it, using the nom de plume Andy McNab, wrote a book about it called Bravo Two Zero, which was the unit's call sign. Then another one of the men on the mission, using the nom de plume Chris Ryan, wrote his own book about it, The One That Got Away, significantly contradicting McNab's. McNab said Ryan was lying. Then another former SAS soldier, Michael Asher, researched the history of the mission and wrote his own book about it, The Real Bravo Two Zero, contradicting both McNab and Ryan. In turn they said he was lying. Later other soldiers who were on the mission and other people joined in, all accusing the others of lying like a big Royal Rumble. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There also was a book called the Nemesis File, writted by Paul Bruce (nom de plume), in which he described how he had killed 30-40 people in an SAS death squad in Ireland. I'm just going from memory, but I think he said they operated in the Republic as well as NI, and not only did they execute people supposedly involved with the PIRA (or similar groups), they also grew their hair out, dressed in civilian clothes and executed random Catholics they picked up in a fake taxi in Belfast, Shankill Butcher style. They didn't torture them like the SBs though, just shot them.

This book caused a big furore when it came out and the result of the investigation was supposedly that Bruce was in an ordinary regiment, REME I think, and failed SAS selection, and everything from SAS selection on in his book was just made up. However it's an open secret that there actually were SAS/SBS/MRF death squads in Ireland that operated similarly to what he described. So some people think he was telling the truth, and the 'investigation' was a whitewash. Most of the book is plausible, however here and there there are glaring errors, like mistaking the calibre of a gun, which no former soldier would make. So some say Bruce is a fantasist so far from reality he can't even get basic details right. Others that those errors were put there on purpose to discredit stories leaking out about SAS/etc. death squads.

Whatever the reason, it's completely accepted that the SAS/SBS/SRR ran death squads in Afghanistan that murdered large numbers of people. There's been at least one big documentary about it and I think some kind of investigation might still be ongoing. While their work in Ireland is still a bit taboo.

I also heard that Jean Charles de Menezes was killed by such a death squad. He was the person chased by armed men in plain clothes through the London Underground on 22/7 /2005 before being shot dead. He was an electrician who supposedly had done some work not long before on the bus that blew up in Tavistock Square. Officially it was the police who did it, however it is admitted that the SRR were peripherally involved. Notice also that originally it was reported that, by an unfortunate coincidence, the CCTV that would have recorded the moments running up to de Menezes's death, and the shooting itself, wasn't working. However, reassuringly after checking they reported that it was.

It was supposedly the same unit that killed the patsies for 7/7. They weren't on the vehicles that exploded, and when they realised that they were going to be framed, ran to Canary Wharf. Possibly hoping to get on a boat or ship? And were shot dead there.
 
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