Crime Spain erupts into violent anti-migrant protests after attack on senior

[Stoic1]

There's no better indication that a post is a complete waste of time to respond to (but will anyways) than when the contents essentially boil down to "you're incoherent, unintelligible and emotionally driven. Everything you say lacks substance and is dumb. You're dumb, but also a bigot. We are critical thinkers unlike you and your kind." No attempt to address any arguments, just "you're dumb and I read a book this one time proving it." Lol....sure bud.

You can't attempt to fashion yourself as a critical thinker with responses like that, especially if you haven't attempted to render the unintelligible, intelligible. If you're also going to suggest, and have people believe, you have potential solutions to those problems, you have to convince people you understand what those problems are. If you simply hand wave those grievances, you undermine the perception of any critical capacity because there is no analysis or attempt at one. It's that sort of tone deafness that got the American left an absolute shellacking at the elections and the European left resorting to some seriously anti-democratic practices shutting out competition because they're slipping in the polls.

I especially liked how you called @Fox by the Sea a racist (very original btw) and suggested that he was generalizing all immigrants based on .1% of them, only to follow it up with "there will always be a contingent of society, the ones lacking in intellectual fortitude, that conduct themselves as if they just waddled out of a cave and get a boner over blaming 'the other' for their miserable lives" it's almost as if you are complicit in the same thing you indict him of doing.

You took a step further applying something from a book you read. Let's ignore the fact that system two is more inline with conservative thought (slow deliberate) and system one being more inline with progressive thought (fast, emotional), it really drove home the idea that there are large swaths of people who encompass a particular behavior, and guess what.............you based it on just two people.

Feel free to use your brain for the next response though.



In no way was the previous post an explanation for this nonsense.

Either way, it isn't the right wing parties advocating for more porous borders or global connectivity. It's not the Poland's or AFDs or Donald Trump's of the world advocating for mass migratory movement. While there is no denying what you say about it being an inescapable fact that capitalism will always seek cheap labor, the main culprits in perpetuating this cycle, now more than ever, is undeniably on the left, not right.

It's people like you telling people like me we are racists and bigots. It's people like you who, like your boyfriend @helltoupee, try to convince people they all of a sudden care about capitalism and its ever expanding growth model, touting mass migration as a solution to a problem they've made a career out of hating.

Leftists like yourself are essentially militating on behalf of capitalism because it's politically expedient to do so. Think about it for a second, you know this is simply for cheap labor, but the moment anyone speaks out against it, you get on your soap box touting it as a viable solution to the problem of ever expanding capitalism because your brand of politics has enshrined this notion of a global community that it fosters.

There's no need to envision some nefarious network of evil, masked bandits or Dr. Evil-like figures plotting in the shadows. The reality is far simpler: leftists are inherently globalist, often advocating for and believing in supranational organizations such as NATO, the EU, and the UN. Conservatives, by contrast, tend towards a more isolationist stance, even while engaging in certain international alliances. Ultimately, global capitalism inherently benefits the globalist agenda more than it does a conservative, nationally-focused one. Hence your rabid defense of mass migration.

But that's leftism for you, self-defeating, un-industrious, terrible at managing situations and composed of the destitute. Can't expect much from that.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Get it through your thick head: There is no way in hell the right would take real steps to undermine cheap labor because it would harm their class interests. Yes, both sides do it but the right, being the side of wealthy, is far more in favor of it. I don't live in Poland or Germany so I can't comment in detail on those but for the US, Trump's promise of mass deportations and of expelling every single one of the 20 million illegals is just theater.

A few thousand deportees here and there don't make a dent in that 20 million number. He knows that raging bigots like you orgasm when they see brown people scared so raiding farms, restaurants, and other workplaces adds a nice bit of cruelty, but numbers wise, it means little to nothing. Six months into his presidency and he already made concessions with illegal farmworkers saying some sort of arrangement could be made with them. When the idea of mass deportations was thrown around March, analysts started estimating how it would negatively affect the agriculture, hospitality, construction, etc., industries and boy did they shut the fuck up real quick.

So unless they're advocating for a radical re-structuring of the economy, the need for labor won't stop. Again, a slow decline like Japan's is the only option but of course, that never gets advocated by the right.... hmmmm, I wonder why?

But that's rightism for you, uninformed, astonishingly ignorant, but speaks full of confidence.

I don't know that you realize this, but you clearly have an identity crisis. You're essentially advocating for global capitalism and its inherent exploitation of cheap labor while playing it off like you're campus brand Marxist. You can't exactly lecture people about class struggle and the perils of capitalism while doing their bidding by trying to maintain its integrity.

Global capitalism fits your particular brand of politics though. Go ahead, address it, you won't though because you can't. You'll continue Gas lighting us to believe we actually do want mass migration and hand wave all actions at reversing mass migration as performative, which is complete nonsense by the way, unless your suggesting places like Poland aren't militarizing their borders or America their immigration enforcement agencies. You are severely downplaying Trump's effects on illegal immigration if you think it's "thousands" of people diverted. Ask the EU in their attempts to stifle the competition if the right doesn't want to quell mass migration so they can laugh in your face as they shit their pants and become less democratic by the day.

We're at a crossroads at this point in time. The left are becoming corporatists, realizing that big money, not grassroots, can achieve their utopian ideals with way more efficiency and sophistication. Meanwhile, conservatives and moderates are seeing their societies fundamentally being terraformed and rejecting the idea of an ever expanding model. This isn't about human rights; it's about engineered demographic shifts, starting with refugees from Syria (Mexico in the US) and expanding to the entire third world, all in pursuit of endless economic growth, not human rights. You idiots aren't even pretending that it's about that anymore, but you used to.


Buddy, there are few fates worse than being one of the lower level, unironically Marxist posters on sherdog but, what do you expect..

That's leftism for you. Composed of those with low moral constitutions, addicted to spinning the hedonic wheel. They appeal to the lowest common denominator and are controlled by their most basic instincts. They can't even managerialize my order at McDonald's properly much less society.

Sit down comrade, you're not the first basement dweller I've scalped on this board.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

They are not part of society; they enter illegally. Legal migrants entering the UK are required to pay a significant fee to access public services.

Being a marxist is quite embarrassing. It's not the edgy aesthetic you think it is.

Modern notions of citizenship in the West predate Marxism by several decades, close to a century.

But being ignorant is almost a requirement for being a fascist so you check out.

 

[Croo67]

Modern notions of citizenship in the West predate Marxism by several decades, close to a century.

But being ignorant is almost a requirement for being a fascist so you check out.

Yes, I'm a fascist because I believe men from Iraq and Afghanistan should have to show the same documentation as everyone else - including Brits - when entering Britain.

Retard.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Yes, I'm a fascist because I believe men from Iraq and Afghanistan should have to show the same documentation as everyone else - including Brits - when entering Britain.

Retard.

This is how the left militates for a cause that they supposedly hate.

They're useful idiots.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

We're at a crossroads at this point in time. The left are becoming corporatists, realizing that big money, not grassroots, can achieve their utopian ideals with way more efficiency and sophistication. Meanwhile, conservatives and moderates are seeing their societies fundamentally being terraformed and rejecting the idea of an ever expanding model. This isn't about human rights; it's about engineered demographic shifts, starting with refugees from Syria (Mexico in the US) and expanding to the entire third world, all in pursuit of endless economic growth, not human rights. You idiots aren't even pretending that it's about that anymore, but you used to.

Wait a minute, what's that in the underlined?? Is that an admission that it's labor and economic ends behind all this and not population replacement or whatever other embarrassingly stupid beliefs the right puts out?

What happened to the "they're trying to destabilize society!" or "they wanna replace the white population!" or "they're paving the way for a one world government!!"

If you personally weren't one of the mouth breathers that repeated these lines then good for you for having above room temperature IQ. But there's no denying that these are major ideas on the right.

All your other hysteria about how the left is more for this economic model while the right is somehow against it is laughable and I'm not even going to entertain it. My biggest issue with this topic is how so many of you fascists really believe that there's some shadowy, all-powerful entity that's out to persecute and replace you, and they're doing it through immigration.

Spread the word among your duller brethren that it's not, it's about economics.

 

[BForrester]

It's okay when white people riot over an injustice, but not when brown or black people do it. Get with program, guys.

It's good to see the usual lineup of chuds are excusing this while they have spent years bitching about BLM.

 

[Croo67]

Wait a minute, what's that in the underlined?? Is that an admission that it's labor and economic ends behind all this and not population replacement or whatever other embarrassingly stupid beliefs the right puts out?

What happened to the "they're trying to destabilize society!" or "they wanna replace the white population!" or "they're paving the way for a one world government!!"

If you personally weren't one of the mouth breathers that repeated these lines then good for you for having above room temperature IQ. But there's no denying that these are major ideas on the right.

All your other hysteria about how the left is more for this economic model while the right is somehow against it is laughable and I'm not even going to entertain it. My biggest issue with this topic is how so many of you fascists really believe that there's some shadowy, all-powerful entity that's out to persecute and replace you, and they're doing it through immigration.

Spread the word among your duller brethren that it's not, it's about economics.

You are an American. You have no experience of Europe, beyond possibly a fleeting trip across it. The illegal migrants Europe get are not comparable to what America gets.

Here's a link to the reviews of Deliveroo, a food delivery service in which the vast majority of fake asylum seekers work for - https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.deliveroo.co.uk

As you can see from the above link, they are utterly hopeless. If they can't be relied upon to cycle with food from a store to an address, do you really think they could operate a supermarket till or work in a warehouse?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Wait a minute, what's that in the underlined?? Is that an admission that it's labor and economic ends behind all this and not population replacement or whatever other embarrassingly stupid beliefs the right puts out?

What happened to the "they're trying to destabilize society!" or "they wanna replace the white population!" or "they're paving the way for a one world government!!"

If you personally weren't one of the mouth breathers that repeated these lines then good for you for having above room temperature IQ. But there's no denying that these are major ideas on the right.

All your other hysteria about how the left is more for this economic model while the right is somehow against it is laughable and I'm not even going to entertain it. My biggest issue with this topic is how so many of you fascists really believe that there's some shadowy, all-powerful entity that's out to persecute and replace you, and they're doing it through immigration.

Spread the word among your duller brethren that it's not, it's about economics.

@Fox by the Sea you're right, this guys a fucking tool box.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I've seen one migrant atacking someone in Italy also. Poped on my feed.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Right, they're suffering because the wealth that's created is being hoarded by the wealthy. The problem isn't production, it's where this production is concentrated.

If you had a dwindling labor force, production would be the issue.

So suffer with migrants or without them based on your argument? I know what I choose

 

[Koro_11]

I don't know that you realize this, but you clearly have an identity crisis. You're essentially advocating for global capitalism and its inherent exploitation of cheap labor while playing it off like you're campus brand Marxist. You can't exactly lecture people about class struggle and the perils of capitalism while doing their bidding by trying to maintain its integrity.

Global capitalism fits your particular brand of politics though. Go ahead, address it, you won't though because you can't. You'll continue Gas lighting us to believe we actually do want mass migration and hand wave all actions at reversing mass migration as performative, which is complete nonsense by the way, unless your suggesting places like Poland aren't militarizing their borders or America their immigration enforcement agencies. You are severely downplaying Trump's effects on illegal immigration if you think it's "thousands" of people diverted. Ask the EU in their attempts to stifle the competition if the right doesn't want to quell mass migration so they can laugh in your face as they shit their pants and become less democratic by the day.

We're at a crossroads at this point in time. The left are becoming corporatists, realizing that big money, not grassroots, can achieve their utopian ideals with way more efficiency and sophistication. Meanwhile, conservatives and moderates are seeing their societies fundamentally being terraformed and rejecting the idea of an ever expanding model. This isn't about human rights; it's about engineered demographic shifts, starting with refugees from Syria (Mexico in the US) and expanding to the entire third world, all in pursuit of endless economic growth, not human rights. You idiots aren't even pretending that it's about that anymore, but you used to.


Buddy, there are few fates worse than being one of the lower level, unironically Marxist posters on sherdog but, what do you expect..

That's leftism for you. Composed of those with low moral constitutions, addicted to spinning the hedonic wheel. They appeal to the lowest common denominator and are controlled by their most basic instincts. They can't even managerialize my order at McDonald's properly much less society.

Sit down comrade, you're not the first basement dweller I've scalped on this board.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

@Fox by the Sea you're right, this guys a fucking tool box.

It's like talking to a pile of bricks. People like this are so dumb they can't even figure out their own programming is contradictory.
fuck corporations!
how dare you deny the corporations their profit from using modern servitude! GDP!!

it's beyond idiotic. i don't like leftists that much either but they're right when saying liberals are the worst. just a blended paste of incoherence, empty moralizing and virtue signaling.

 

[Croo67]

Moroccan fake asylum seeker sets 17-year-old girl alight in Las Palmas, causing 95% burns to her body.

Hope the cops don’t detain him too long, he’ll be a pillar of society and his profession will sorely miss him.

 

[Lycandroid]

Wait a minute, what's that in the underlined?? Is that an admission that it's labor and economic ends behind all this and not population replacement or whatever other embarrassingly stupid beliefs the right puts out?

What happened to the "they're trying to destabilize society!" or "they wanna replace the white population!" or "they're paving the way for a one world government!!"

If you personally weren't one of the mouth breathers that repeated these lines then good for you for having above room temperature IQ. But there's no denying that these are major ideas on the right.

All your other hysteria about how the left is more for this economic model while the right is somehow against it is laughable and I'm not even going to entertain it. My biggest issue with this topic is how so many of you fascists really believe that there's some shadowy, all-powerful entity that's out to persecute and replace you, and they're doing it through immigration.

Spread the word among your duller brethren that it's not, it's about economics.

It's happening in every western nation and every lick of statistical data shows it to be so. UK will be muslim majority by 2060, Canada will be Indian Majority by 2041, Australia will be muslim majority by 2065. France will be Muslim majority by 2105.

It's not a theory, you can do the math yourself with public immigration numbers already available. By the time this happens, your liberal worldview will be a thing of the past. With Muslims becoming the voting base of all western countries, things like womens rights, gay rights, workers rights will be a think of the past. People with socialistic views like your self will be enemies of the state. Just like is in the case in the majority of muslim countries today, and throughout history.

Does this sound appealing to you ? You are advocating for by constantly downplaying these legitimate issues as far right nonsense.

It's okay when white people riot over an injustice, but not when brown or black people do it. Get with program, guys.

It's good to see the usual lineup of chuds are excusing this while they have spent years bitching about BLM.

BLM was the government blowing up an issue and incentivizing riots to further their own agenda.

This is people rioting against a government agenda and an issue they try to cover up every step away.

Try to keep up.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

It's happening in every western nation and every lick of statistical data shows it to be so. UK will be muslim majority by 2060, Canada will be Indian Majority by 2041, Australia will be muslim majority by 2065. France will be Muslim majority by 2105.

It's not a theory, you can do the math yourself with public immigration numbers already available. By the time this happens, your liberal worldview will be a thing of the past. With Muslims becoming the voting base of all western countries, things like womens rights, gay rights, workers rights will be a think of the past. People with socialistic views like your self will be enemies of the state. Just like is in the case in the majority of muslim countries today, and throughout history.

Of course it's happening, there's no questioning that. The thing in question is the "why"?

It's clearly labor and economic-based, and all present and historical evidence point to this. I'm tired of repeating the same shit and posting the same data but you can look up yourself how this happens in non-Western countries that are high-middle and middle income too (except Japan and South Korea).

It doesn't happen AS MUCH as in the West because they're not as rich as the West and, as mentioned before, this is an economic/labor phenomenon.

 

[Croo67]

Of course it's happening, there's no questioning that. The thing in question is the "why"?

It's clearly labor and economic-based, and all present and historical evidence point to this. I'm tired of repeating the same shit and posting the same data but you can look up yourself how this happens in non-Western countries that are high-middle and middle income too (except Japan and South Korea).

It doesn't happen AS MUCH as in the West because they're not as rich as the West and, as mentioned before, this is an economic/labor phenomenon.

You’ve posted no data relevant to Europe.

You’re applying what happens in America to Europe, despite umpteen people showing you migrants top the European unemployment tables.

 

[Lycandroid]

Of course it's happening, there's no questioning that. The thing in question is the "why"?

It's clearly labor and economic-based, and all present and historical evidence point to this. I'm tired of repeating the same shit and posting the same data but you can look up yourself how this happens in non-Western countries that are high-middle and middle income too (except Japan and South Korea).

It doesn't happen AS MUCH as in the West because they're not as rich as the West and, as mentioned before, this is an economic/labor phenomenon.

That doesn't address the fact that western countries already had comprehensive immigration levels that were designed to address the economic issues.

That doesn't explain the massive increase in immigration well above what is need to replace the retiring work forces. That doesn't explain the massive increase in bringing in migrants who don't work and are of no economic benefit.

The only economic benefit that mass immigration brings is to drive down wages and replace the work force with a cheaper and more controllable workforce. If you are going to accept this economic reasoning for mass migration you must also accept the replacement theory because they are one in the same agenda.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

The ham bone trend is pretty funny. Hopefully it works

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You’re applying what happens in America to Europe, despite umpteen people showing you migrants top the European unemployment tables.

Let's take a look at the "Labor Force Participation" and "Employment Rates" and "Unemployment" rates in this site (can't copy and paste, unfortunately)

Migrant integration statistics – labour market indicators - Statistics Explained - Eurostat

European statistics on main labour market indicators among foreign-born persons and foreign citizens contrasted with nationals and native-born persons: labour force participation rate, employment rate, unemployment rate, youth unemployment rate and the share of long-term unemployment.

ec.europa.eu

All employment charts show similar things: in some countries, immigrants are a little behind, in others pretty much equal to the native population. But they're all within 5-10 percentage points of the natives.

Similar with the Unemployment rates. Immigrants a bit worse off than the general population, but all within 5-10 points.

This can be explained because in every society on Earth, people in the lower classes (low education, low-income) have higher rates of unemployment than people in higher classes, who have more education. And obviously immigrants are gonna occupy the lower classes in society and be lower income than natives.

So where's the problem? Where's the big mystery?

You guys are having an aneurysm as if native Europeans have a 75% labor participation and immigrants are in the 20s-30s or something. Or natives at 10% unemployment and immigrants at 50%.