How do we know that for a fact?
The only parts here that seem obvious to me is the supply problem which is caused by existing homeowners blocking new supply through zoning laws and other mechanisms like environmental impact statements.
All that stuff sucks but I would imagine the primary barrier for most folks is the monthly rent itself and not the fees. If we had all those fees but saw rent prices go down as they have in cities that radically rezoned their land like Austin Texas and Auckland New Zealand idk that they'd be that much of an issue in and of themselves.
If we want more "affordable" housing(don't really like the framing of affordable/luxury tbh) then we need to lower the barrier to entry. All the cheapest units in my area are efficiencies rented out by the resident homeowner. Americans don't like the idea of their neighbors building accessory dwelling units but if they had the freedom to I'm sure many Americans would want one for themselves if it wasn't much of a hassle and meant an extra revenue stream. Right now we empower the busybody neighbor over the homeowner but if you turn that on its head I think we'd see more affordable ADUs on the market.
And also how having a McDonald's in the middle of subdivision is a really good plan too!! And what a c*** you are if you don't want that in your neighborhood, increasing crime. You're also probably a racist in some magical way if you disagree with these policies.
Why shouldn't your neighbor be allowed to open a café in their garage? How would having an eatery within walking distance of a residential neighborhood increase crime?
I wouldn't be surprised if it factored in on some level but I also think that people want a scapegoat and short term rentals(STRs) are an easy one to point to.
That’s not what you were arguing for. You were arguing for eliminating zoning between residential and commercial.
I was arguing for mixed use developments yes.
BRB going to open a 24 hour machinist shop right next door to your house. On the other side I was thinking a chemical plant.
Is that what I was arguing for? Try to be honest now.
I heard explained why and you pretended none of my points mattered because you're stuck on this weird ideas sticking a McDonald's in my neighborhood.
Yes. It is.
At one point someone argued having more car traffic in a neighborhood was safer for kids playing outside.
And also when I wanted to get into the weeds and details with you, you backed out of the conversation. So why are you starting it up again now? How about we just start where we left off? Explain exactly what you mean by a neighborhood and exactly what you mean by businesses and show me some pictures of the kinds of neighborhoods you're talking about.
Yeah and claimed racism if you said more people in the neighborhood would bring in more crime.
The issue is if he wants mixed use that refuses some kinds of businesses it means he has limits and he’s just arguing that his limits are more appropriate than ours.
Why is it weird to want to have certain commercial establishments like cafés, diners, grocers, and pharmacies within a residential neighborhood?
No it wasn't, in fact I've said the opposite
Why can't you just be honest here and address what I'm actually arguing? Why is it wrong to have small scale, low impact, homeowner run businesses? Again, not talking chemical plants and strip clubs but cafés, diners, bookstores and the like.
I didn't back out, I gave you a reasonable response which is that of course I can't give you some extremely detailed plan of what this would look like in part because part of the problem with modern urban planning is the need to meticulously plan every detail instead of allowing organic order to emerge. For the record here's that post again.
Yes banning chemical plants from residential neighborhoods is reasonable in a way that banning duplexes and cafes is not. The weird position is acting like those two things have the same kind of impact. There's a reason you don't see chemical plants in the middle of a strip mall where you might see a café.
You realize no one wants what you’re arguing for?
But many people do and they are in fact arguing for it, hence big zoning reform in cities and states across the country.
