So what happened with the Wall?

I would disagree.

It's not an employer's fault the federal government failed to fulfill its duty and secure the border.

Many illegal immigrants seeking employment have artfully forged documentation. Since most employers lack the skills of James Bond, many will be unable to discern artful forgery from legitimate documentation.

I see the notion of "targeting employers" as a last ditch effort to shift the blame for this problem away from the Government.

If certain individuals have no legal right to be within our borders, it's the responsibility of the federal government to enforce it.

When people refer to employers in this context, Im pretty sure they are talking about ones who are aware of their undocumented status or have suspicions but ignore them with bliss.

No one is faulting employers who are legitimately fooled.
 
Do you know who you're talking to? He has zero interest in having a meaningful discussion of any sort.

Your a cunt, a dumb one at that, and it's quite obvious as to why nobody takes your stupid ass seriously.


You are a cunt


And I will call you a cunt all I want


Therefore, you're obfuscating, and still a cunt.

You are a cunt, and my argument has this extra merit that gives it a little extra oomph: It's the truth.

Lawl
 
Trump using his Art of the Deal magic is in negotiations with China to fund with a new set of US treasuries specifically constructed by Goldman for building the wall since Mexico has been deemed a poor credit risk
 
Stop allowing employers to pay them, thstg will significantly lower illegal immigration. Deport illegal immigrants as humanely as possible and make the path to legal citizenship reasonable. There is nothing wrong with immigrants if they are lawful.

So fire them, then humanely ask them to leave?
Doesn't seen rationale...

In 2018 anytime someone is pulled over or arrested or being suspicious of being illegal should carry proof of citizenship.
No proof, you are flown out of the country within a week.

But the elite don't see it that way.
 
By that terrible logic, why didn't Obama push through Universal Healthcare when his party controlled both chambers and the White House?

Before you reply, remember, this is the logical standard you put forward.

"But Obama!" Democrats only controlled enough seats in the Senate to break a filibuster for like four months of Obama's first term. And they still managed to pass the ACA, the first steps towards UHC. Obama did a helluva lot more work to keep his promise than Trump has.

Now tell me how many pieces of legislation has Trump signed that even gets a tiny step closer to the wall?
 
"But Obama!" Democrats only controlled enough seats in the Senate to break a filibuster for like four months of Obama's first term. And they still managed to pass the ACA, the first steps towards UHC. Obama did a helluva lot more work to keep his promise than Trump has.
Irrelevant. By your own poorly thought out standard, there was no excuse for Obama not implementing 100% of his agenda when his party controlled both chambers and the White House.

This is the standard you put forward.


Now tell me how many pieces of legislation has Trump signed that even gets a tiny step closer to the wall?

Relax, we still have 7 more years to get it done.

I voted for Trump primarily to deliver on tax reform and preserve an individuals right to bear arms. In his first year, he's completely delivered on the reasons I voted for him.

Easily the best President of my lifetime.
 
You dont need to add a whole new seat to change the #s. You were going on about how they hadn't changed for 100 years. I showed how 2 border states had changed in a decade

Stop talking in circles. You chose those border states to suggest that the uptick in population was a direct result of illegal immigration. I asked you if there had also been any upticks in non-border states and you dodged the question.

The number of illegals in the US, according to the best calculations, has held steady (with a slight drop off) at about 11 million for the last seven years or so.
 
So fire them, then humanely ask them to leave?
Doesn't seen rationale...

In 2018 anytime someone is pulled over or arrested or being suspicious of being illegal should carry proof of citizenship.
No proof, you are flown out of the country within a week.

But the elite don't see it that way.
I said deport them not "Ask them" humanly, that means if they are in the legal process of becoming legal citizens and have committd no other crime give them the time to finish the process if they stay out of trouble. And fine the company severey who paid them. In a short amount of time illegal immigration will be down to insignificant numbers.
 
You chose those border states to suggest that the uptick in population was a direct result of illegal immigration.

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You can't just make up arguments to fight against. This is the 2nd time you've ried to get me to commit to something i never said.
 
It was adorable watching you call yourself a rube who only cares about rhetoric.... then post this. You're about as smart as cincymma I see....
Rhetoric is huge. For years people have been afraid to tell you fucks to fuck off. Trump has normalized it.
So let me do my oh so small part in making America great again by saying: I echo that sentiment.

@cincymma79 you ever of this geek? For a Nov 2017 join date he sure seems to know a lot about us.
 
Rhetoric is huge. For years people have been afraid to tell you fucks to fuck off. Trump has normalized it.
So let me do my oh so small part in making America great again by saying: I echo that sentiment.

@cincymma79 you ever of this geek? For a Nov 2017 join date he sure seems to know a lot about us.
I literally don’t care. Stupid people always default to that when they have no argument. I don’t have time for him. He’s lost
 
Rhetoric is huge. For years people have been afraid to tell you fucks to fuck off. Trump has normalized it.

I'm sure people like you have been living in fear of actually expressing how they feel.... but most of us haven't been cowering in fear for the last 8 years, deathly afraid to say how we feel because it'd make it obvious we're scum. We feel electing a conman who played you dipshits like clowns because you were deathly afraid of a woman becoming president and letting trannies piss somewhere, was stupid.

But you already knew that. It's why you've called yourself a rube who falls for empty promises. Because even you know, you didn't vote for something, you voted against something. And slowly but surely you guys are realizing the error of your ways. It's why all you've got left is trolling. It's why you can't address stories with anything more than sarcasm, "this is it" and attacks on the source. That fear of speaking is manifesting itself in a fear of letting people know you care nothing about facts or policy, you only care about feeling right. Because you've been wrong for so long.

It's how you convince yourselves you were part of the con job. If you can bother people online, you definitely didn't fuck yourselves over by voting for a conman with no principles, right? One who was literally only became a republican because he thought, correctly, it would be easier to win as one, right?

So tell me, if you were in my shoes, why should I do anything but laugh at you for being completely fucking dumb? Why would I do anything but assume you collection of idiots afraid to address a subject and literally admitting you're a rube, are the majority of Trump supporters?

So let me do my oh so small part in making America great again by saying: I echo that sentiment.

Well let me just respond by saying, No. I'll be right here, telling you why you're a fucking moron, watching the guy you support be terrible at his job. I'm gonna point it out at every turn, I'm gonna keep laughing at you and making fun of you. Because that's what you guys wanted. You wanted attention. Now you've got it. Every intelligent person in here now knows you guys are bringing our country down because you're simply lesser men who can't handle that fact. And we're gonna laugh at it and remind you as much as we can. :)

@cincymma79 you ever of this geek? For a Nov 2017 join date he sure seems to know a lot about us.

You say this like you guys are unique in someway. LOL. cincy's dumb enough to say "you ever of this geek" and not realize it too....

I literally don’t care. Stupid people always default to that when they have no argument. I don’t have time for him. He’s lost

This is really it cincy. We totally believe you're literate this time.
 
Oh and Liquid Smoke allow me:

"Blah blah blah you think I'm reading all that. You're so triggered, MAGA! *insert trump gif here*"

Now you can save the 20 minutes it would've took you to produce that.
 
i told everyone on my bus in elementary school that i participated in underground karate death matches with pits of spikes and i somehow managed to convince myself that they believed it
 
I'm sure people like you have been living in fear of actually expressing how they feel.... but most of us haven't been cowering in fear for the last 8 years, deathly afraid to say how we feel because it'd make it obvious we're scum. We feel electing a conman who played you dipshits like clowns because you were deathly afraid of a woman becoming president and letting trannies piss somewhere, was stupid.

But you already knew that. It's why you've called yourself a rube who falls for empty promises. Because even you know, you didn't vote for something, you voted against something. And slowly but surely you guys are realizing the error of your ways. It's why all you've got left is trolling. It's why you can't address stories with anything more than sarcasm, "this is it" and attacks on the source. That fear of speaking is manifesting itself in a fear of letting people know you care nothing about facts or policy, you only care about feeling right. Because you've been wrong for so long.

It's how you convince yourselves you were part of the con job. If you can bother people online, you definitely didn't fuck yourselves over by voting for a conman with no principles, right? One who was literally only became a republican because he thought, correctly, it would be easier to win as one, right?

So tell me, if you were in my shoes, why should I do anything but laugh at you for being completely fucking dumb? Why would I do anything but assume you collection of idiots afraid to address a subject and literally admitting you're a rube, are the majority of Trump supporters?



Well let me just respond by saying, No. I'll be right here, telling you why you're a fucking moron, watching the guy you support be terrible at his job. I'm gonna point it out at every turn, I'm gonna keep laughing at you and making fun of you. Because that's what you guys wanted. You wanted attention. Now you've got it. Every intelligent person in here now knows you guys are bringing our country down because you're simply lesser men who can't handle that fact. And we're gonna laugh at it and remind you as much as we can. :)



You say this like you guys are unique in someway. LOL. cincy's dumb enough to say "you ever of this geek" and not realize it too....



This is really it cincy. We totally believe you're literate this time.
Didn't read lol.
 
I'm sure people like you have been living in fear of actually expressing how they feel.... but most of us haven't been cowering in fear for the last 8 years, deathly afraid to say how we feel because it'd make it obvious we're scum. We feel electing a conman who played you dipshits like clowns because you were deathly afraid of a woman becoming president and letting trannies piss somewhere, was stupid.

But you already knew that. It's why you've called yourself a rube who falls for empty promises. Because even you know, you didn't vote for something, you voted against something. And slowly but surely you guys are realizing the error of your ways. It's why all you've got left is trolling. It's why you can't address stories with anything more than sarcasm, "this is it" and attacks on the source. That fear of speaking is manifesting itself in a fear of letting people know you care nothing about facts or policy, you only care about feeling right. Because you've been wrong for so long.

It's how you convince yourselves you were part of the con job. If you can bother people online, you definitely didn't fuck yourselves over by voting for a conman with no principles, right? One who was literally only became a republican because he thought, correctly, it would be easier to win as one, right?

So tell me, if you were in my shoes, why should I do anything but laugh at you for being completely fucking dumb? Why would I do anything but assume you collection of idiots afraid to address a subject and literally admitting you're a rube, are the majority of Trump supporters?



Well let me just respond by saying, No. I'll be right here, telling you why you're a fucking moron, watching the guy you support be terrible at his job. I'm gonna point it out at every turn, I'm gonna keep laughing at you and making fun of you. Because that's what you guys wanted. You wanted attention. Now you've got it. Every intelligent person in here now knows you guys are bringing our country down because you're simply lesser men who can't handle that fact. And we're gonna laugh at it and remind you as much as we can. :)



You say this like you guys are unique in someway. LOL. cincy's dumb enough to say "you ever of this geek" and not realize it too....



This is really it cincy. We totally believe you're literate this time.
Nobody cares. Get a dog or something
 
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