So rousey will fight Holly but dont want to fight Cyborg

[Cro Cop Is Back]

Wtf brah

 

[scorpipede]

She says because Cyborg is too big or weighs too much or pees standing up I dunno..........maybe Holly is standing on a hill because she looks bigger than Cyborg to me. Wouldnt it be nice if rousey had the guts and fought Cyborg a long time ago when she was in the same weight class as her. Then we wouldnt have to hear constantly how great rousey because she woulda got ninja smashed by the Borg ooooooooo.
Thats my new term ninja smashed Im gonna patent it like rousey is trying to patent do nothing bitch.

instead of making this moronic, totally original thread you...should have done nothing...bitch.

 

[joest]

Ronda went up in weightclass because she was tired of making weight. You have to realize how long she has been in this circus. She was in the 2004 and 2008 Olympics. So she was sick of it and went up in weight to basically be able to fight at her walkaround weight. And she actually felt better. This is paraphrased from memory, from her book.

She then stayed at 145 because she wanted to be able to take fights at a days notice when she started out in MMA. Nowadays with the luxury of full camps with a barnful of coaches and dieticians her logical fight weight is 135.

To be fair Cyborg is probably really not a 135. But then again she really isn't a lot of things. But I'll bite my tongue. Her physical appearance brings out some very bad sides in me.

 

[rbastid]

Ronda went up in weightclass because she was tired of making weight. You have to realize how long she has been in this circus. She was in the 2004 and 2008 Olympics. So she was sick of it and went up in weight to basically be able to fight at her walkaround weight. And she actually felt better. This is paraphrased from memory, from her book.

She then stayed at 145 because she wanted to be able to take fights at a days notice when she started out in MMA. Nowadays with the luxury of full camps with a barnful of coaches and dieticians her logical fight weight is 135.

To be fair Cyborg is probably really not a 135. But then again she really isn't a lot of things. But I'll bite my tongue. Her physical appearance brings out some very bad sides in me.

Ronda also went to 135 because there was no 145 division in Strikeforce when she moved up to the big show.

Cyborg was suspended while Ronda was still fighting on the challengers series. The 145 division was basically filled with women who weighed 145-47 and didn't want to make the cut, so when the champ was suspended Strikeforce did away with the division and made everyone move to the more competitive division (where Marloes had already moved) Ronda had no choice, it was move to 135 or leave Strikeforce.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Ronda also went to 135 because there was no 145 division in Strikeforce when she moved up to the big show.

Cyborg was suspended while Ronda was still fighting on the challengers series. The 145 division was basically filled with women who weighed 145-47 and didn't want to make the cut, so when the champ was suspended Strikeforce did away with the division and made everyone move to the more competitive division (where Marloes had already moved) Ronda had no choice, it was move to 135 or leave Strikeforce.

Not true. Ronda was champ at 135 when Cyborg was suspended. They offered Ronda Cyborg if she could beat Miesha at 135. She won, and took the fight with Cyborg at 145.

 

[joest]

Ronda also went to 135 because there was no 145 division in Strikeforce when she moved up to the big show.

Cyborg was suspended while Ronda was still fighting on the challengers series. The 145 division was basically filled with women who weighed 145-47 and didn't want to make the cut, so when the champ was suspended Strikeforce did away with the division and made everyone move to the more competitive division (where Marloes had already moved) Ronda had no choice, it was move to 135 or leave Strikeforce.

The point remains though. 135 is logical for her. She looks comfortable at fight night.

 

[Levi_]

She doesn't have to prove shit to you or anyone else. She can make 140 and thats all she should have to make. The legit thing is to meet in the middle but the ufc puts ronda on a pedestal like everyone should bow down to her. They are both dominant and champs so meeting in the middle is the only way. I mean who the heck asks a champ to come down in weight? Any male champ ever goes up in weight to challenge themselves not ask someone else to come down. A big piece of cyborgs success is her physical strength. Thats why ronda and the ufc want her at a weak state.

She has EVERYTHING to prove unless she wants to be known only to hardcore fans and fight for peanuts the rest of her life. It is Ronda that has fought the best in the world aside from Cyborg, is rich, and is world famous; Cyborg fights in a third rate organization that no casual fan has ever heard of, and doesn't make jack. The onus is on Cyborg to go to the UFC and fight for a real championship.

And no one is asking the champ to go down a weight; Cyborg is not the champ, Ronda is. The fight wouldn't take place in microscopic Invicta.

I love the silly logic of the TS. Like hello, Holly is making 135 for the fight, what Cyborg won't do.

 

[Redhawks100]

Dude, Cyborg needs to be able to make weight. She's signed with the UFC, but she must be able to make 135 before they book her against Rousey. She still hasn't shown that she can make that weight.

I want this fight as much as anyone, but it's up to Cyborg at this point. Rousey isn't obligated to move up in weight since she's been the dominant champion at WBW.

 

[Docile]

More like 'Ronda agree that creating a new division for a single fighter who is only that size due to roids would be f'kin stupid.'

But flaunt your ignorance all day long if you want, TS

 

[RandomUser12]

Rousey will move up ten pounds to fight a retired Gina Carano, but she will not move up five pounds to fight the only woman people actually want to see her fight.

Rousey is absolutely shook & her fans know it.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Rousey will move up ten pounds to fight a retired Gina Carano, but she will not move up five pounds to fight the only woman people actually want to see her fight.

Rousey is absolutely shook & her fans know it.

Did Gina weigh 160 recently? Did Gina abuse steroids to put on 20+lbs of muscle?

Cyborg abused steroids to get huge, and won't give up 5lbs to fight a fair fight. Shook.

BTW you do know Rousey was offered Cyborg at 145 in SF and took the fight right? And you know Cyborg was 15lbs lighter, willing to fight at 135, was offered Ronda and refused, right? Cyborg said she wanted to fight 3 other girls at 135 before she would fight Ronda at 140 only.

 

[skold]

Rousey will move up ten pounds to fight a retired Gina Carano, but she will not move up five pounds to fight the only woman people actually want to see her fight.

Rousey is absolutely shook & her fans know it.

Nonsense.. why is Ronda obliged to do anything for Cyborg. The division is 135, if Cyborg can make that weight, she can have the fight.. What Ronda is willing to do for people she actually likes is her own business

 

[RandomUser12]

Did Gina weigh 160 recently? Did Gina abuse steroids to put*on 20+lbs of muscle?

Cyborg abused steroids to get huge, and won't give up 5lbs to fight a fair fight. Shook.

BTW you do know Rousey was offered Cyborg at 145 in SF and took the fight right? And you know Cyborg was 15lbs lighter, willing to fight at 135, was offered Ronda and refused, right? Cyborg said she wanted to fight 3 other girls at 135 before she would fight Ronda at 140 only.

Pure spin mode.

And Rousey never wanted to fight her. She announced she was moving down in weight right after her second fight with Strikeforce.

Nonsense.. why is Ronda obliged to do anything for Cyborg. The division is 135, if Cyborg can make that weight, she can have the fight.. What Ronda is willing to do for people she actually likes is her own business

Because people want to see her challenged, and it's universally accepted that Cyborg is her toughest challenge. If she's the beast they say she is, five pounds shouldn't be a problem. But apparently her fans prefer pro wrestling squash matches & fantasy matchups with male boxers & dead martial artists.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

If Ronda wanted a challenge, she wouldn't have started WMMA.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Pure spin mode.

And Rousey never wanted to fight her. She announced she was moving down in weight right after her second fight with Strikeforce.

In other words you got schooled and don't want to admit it. Rousey went down when SF told her they would not give her Cyborg, but Miesha at 135, and then Cyborg after if she won. Cyborg admitted Ronda signed to fight her at 145, and the steroid suspension called the fight off.

Because people want to see her challenged, and it's universally accepted that Cyborg is her toughest challenge. If she's the beast they say she is, five pounds shouldn't be a problem. But apparently her fans prefer pro wrestling squash matches & fantasy matchups with male boxers & dead martial artists.

Same can be said of Cyborg, only 5lbs, and in the past 2 years Cyborg has ADDED 15lbs.

Who is running again?

 

[skold]

Pure spin mode.

And Rousey never wanted to fight her. She announced she was moving down in weight right after her second fight with Strikeforce.




Because people want to see her challenged, and it's universally accepted that Cyborg is her toughest challenge. If she's the beast they say she is, five pounds shouldn't be a problem. But apparently her fans prefer pro wrestling squash matches & fantasy matchups with male boxers & dead martial artists.

You do realize that the reason 5lbs is a big deal is because UFC are not in the business of making one-off fights for people from other organisations? If you want to fight in UFC, you actually have to be signed and fight in an existing weight class.. doing non title exhibition fights against people who don't fight in UFC is like, the stupidest idea ever.

Oh and by the way, its not "Pure spin mode". Its well documented and proven that Ronda moved down to win 135 title and unify it against Cyborg at 145.. EVEN CYBORG HERSELF HAS ADMITTED IT, why are you having such difficulty understanding that?


But then again, you aren't really interested in facts are you? You are here to fighter bash, and guys like me are getting in your way

 

[ilfirin]

Oh for crying out loud. We've been over this, numerous times. Ronda fights at 135, as does Holm, Cyborg does not. If she cuts to 135 she'll get her title shot, it's not a hugely complicated situation really.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Oh for crying out loud. We've been over this, numerous times. Ronda fights at 135, as does Holm, Cyborg does not. If she cuts to 135 she'll get her title shot, it's not a hugely complicated situation really.

If Holm is bigger than Cyborg as TS stated, why is he against Cyborg at 135?

 

[RandomUser12]

In other words you got schooled and don't want to admit it. Rousey went down when SF told her they would not give her Cyborg, but Miesha at 135, and then Cyborg after if she won. Cyborg admitted Ronda signed to fight her at 145, and the steroid suspension called the fight off.


Same can be said of Cyborg, only 5lbs, and in the past 2 years Cyborg has ADDED 15lbs.

Who is running again?

http://mmajunkie.com/2011/12/strike...eeds-to-happen-but-wants-135-pound-belt-first

You do realize that the reason 5lbs is a big deal is because UFC are not in the business of making one-off fights for people from other organisations? If you want to fight in UFC, you actually have to be signed and fight in an existing weight class.. doing non title exhibition fights against people who don't fight in UFC is like, the stupidest idea ever.

Oh and by the way, its not "Pure spin mode". Its well documented and proven that Ronda moved down to win 135 title and unify it against Cyborg at 145.. EVEN CYBORG HERSELF HAS ADMITTED IT, why are you having such difficulty understanding that?


But then again, you aren't really interested in facts are you? You are here to fighter bash, and guys like me are getting in your way

Cyborg is signed with the UFC, and they'll happily make one off catchweight fights when it suits them (Hughes-Gracie.) Difference is, Cyborg isn't a decrepit old fart with zero chance of winning.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

http://mmajunkie.com/2011/12/strike...eeds-to-happen-but-wants-135-pound-belt-first

Yes, and she did exactly that. Took the 135 belt then signed to fight Cyborg at 145. That was after 4 fights. You said it was after 2 fights. You were 100% wrong about everything and linked a source that backed up my post. Thanks.

Cyborg is signed with the UFC, and they'll happily make one off catchweight fights when it suits them (Hughes-Gracie.) Difference is, Cyborg isn't a decrepit old fart with zero chance of winning.

Difference is she is not Royce Gracie and this is not 2006 any more. Even Fedor did not get 1 off fight offers. Cyborg can make 135, what's the issue?