International Smugglers are deporting immigrants

[terrapin]

I used to work some labor jobs when I was younger and the illegal immigrants who worked alongside of me were my favorite people. I would bring a ton of scrambled eggs and sausage and they would bring tortillas and sauces and vegetables etc and we would feast at lunchtimes. looking back my fondest memories were working with those people. I have always gravitated towards minority groups and had better experience with them overall. vietnamese, chinese and mexican's alike.

later in life I had to help out a woman who was a hoarder and who had let her entire basement turn to mold and rot. there were a lot worse things down there too. they had been defecating in buckets down there for months and that was after they allowed the toilet and bathtub to fill up.. it was the worst thing I have ever done in my life.... it was charity work... I was not getting paid. I ended up hiring some guys from in front of the home Depot willing to do the work and they were freaking fantastic and amazing men.

I was pretty low on this job... I knew the woman and it was heartbreaking she had liven in the squalor that she did... I could not do it myself and NO american crew would have been willing to do it aside from hazmat.

these guys... the way they spoke to me and the bond we had while doing this work... talking trips to the dump etc. it was amazing. I felt gods presence that whole day with them and they did too. mutual goodwill etc.

I will miss those kinds of people.

 

[Strychnine]

I used to work some labor jobs when I was younger and the illegal immigrants who worked alongside of me were my favorite people. I would bring a ton of scrambled eggs and sausage and they would bring tortillas and sauces and vegetables etc and we would feast at lunchtimes. looking back my fondest memories were working with those people. I have always gravitated towards inferiority groups and had better experience with them overall. vietnamese, chinese and mexican's alike.

later in life I had to help out a woman who was a hoarder and who had let her entire basement turn to mold and rot. there were a lot worse things down there too. they had been defecating in buckets down there for months and that was after they allowed the toilet and bathtub to fill up.. it was the worst thing I have ever done in my life.... it was charity work... I was not getting paid. I ended up hiring some guys from in front of the home Depot willing to do the work and they were freaking fantastic and amazing men.

I was pretty low on this job... I knew the woman and it was heartbreaking she had liven in the squalor that she did... I could not do it myself and NO american crew would have been willing to do it aside from hazmat.

these guys... the way they spoke to me and the bond we had while doing this work... talking trips to the dump etc. it was amazing. I felt gods presence that whole day with them and they did too. mutual goodwill etc.

I will miss those kinds of people.

I felt that same camaraderie working in the fields of rural GA. When I was stationed in middle of the U.S., I was chatting with a Latino man who was doing some roofing. Turns out he and I worked the same fields for the same large farms back in Ga.

Small world...

 

[Rod1]

Conclusion
Illegal immigrants are a significant net fiscal drain -- paying less in taxes than they use in public services.

The primary reason they create more in costs than they pay in taxes is their relative low
levels of education. Based on prior research, 69 percent of adult illegal immigrants have no
education beyond high school, compared to 35 percent of the U.S.-born. As a result, they tend to
earn modest wages and make modest tax contributions even when income and payroll taxes are
taken out of their pay. This fact, coupled with the relatively heavy demands they make on public
coffers -- especially for education, health care, and means-tested programs -- is the reason they
are a net fiscal drain.
We estimate that 59 percent of illegal immigrant households use one or more major welfare
programs, costing roughly $42 billion a year. At the local level, the largest single cost is for
public education. We estimate the cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants, most of
whom are U.S.-born, totals $69 billion per year. While illegal immigrants often receive other
services for their U.S.-born children, even when we estimate the net fiscal impact of just the
illegal immigrants themselves, excluding their U.S.-born children, we still find they create a
lifetime net fiscal drain of $68,000 on average (taxes paid minus benefits received).
Even though illegal immigrants are net fiscal drains, they do pay a significant amount in taxes.
We estimate illegal immigrants pay $25.9 billion a year to the federal government.
Unfortunately, their tax contributions do not cover their consumption of public services.
The net fiscal drain is not the result of illegal immigrants being unwilling to work. In fact, we
find that illegal immigrant households are significantly more likely to have at least one worker
than households headed by the U.S.-born, and there is little evidence that immigrants come
specifically to get welfare.
Legal immigrants and U.S.-born Americans who have relatively few years of school are also a
net fiscal drain on average because they too tend to earn modest wages, make modest tax
contributions, and use social services extensively. None of this should be seen as a moral failing
on the part of low-income people. Nonetheless, it is the reason why communities across the
country worry so much about losing their middle-class tax base, as it is primarily middle- and
upper-income people who keep public coffers full.
The fiscal situation today is very different from the situation more than 100 years ago during the
last great wave of immigrants, when federal, state and local government was a much smaller
share of GDP. Also, at that time industrial jobs for the less educated were plentiful and paid, by
the standards of the day, relatively high wages. But none this is the case today. We need an
immigration policy that reflects current realities, and we need to rigorously enforce it. Otherwise,
the fiscal costs will be significant, as many communities across the country are currently finding out.

That's weird, so he says they cost the same with or without relatives and still claim they cost the same? do you have a link to the actual study and not the Congressional hearing? would like to read it more indepth

 

[Stoic1]

I do not, Rod. It was a cursory search on a complex topic.

 

[ChosenOne]

It would be better for the economy and tax payers if these companies just used machines instead of illegal aliens, atleast us tax payers dont have to pay to house and feed machines.

Illegal migrant workers as a whole contributed far more to America than they got back in return. They paid taxes and paid in to SS while not being able to get anything back for that. They did jobs in industries or on farms that otherwise cease to exist, making the owners and those communities poorer.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

The U.S. doesn't need tax revenue from people who work the fields and do hard manual labor that citizens refuse to do.

Right?

How much do illegal immigrants cost the U.S.?

The U.S. sees $150.7 billion yearly cost from illegal immigration, with policy shifts increasing taxpayer burden.

www.newsweek.com

So a little more than half what they cost the taxpayers?