Skin infections from jiu jitsu

I've been using an over the counter shower gel (~$2.00) and a loufa for several years. No ringworm, no staf, no nothing and no need to spend over $5.00 for a bar of soap.

As long as you thoroughly wash yourself after training (Head to Toe!), wash and dry your gear properly, you don't need to purchase any of this overpriced "soap".

If I felt the need to spend an exorbitant amount of money on "soap", I would prefer it be tested by the FDA. “All Natural” is fine and good, but Poison Ivy and Lead are “All Natural”, but I wouldn’t wash my ass with it.
 
Defense Soap said:
Please, now your are just embarrassing yourself. No where in these 16 pages did you answer the specific questions I asked you. We both know why you refuse to answer them. Your charades are becoming quite tiring but once again Adam, you are my best marketing tool. Keep doing business the way you are. I love picking up your dissatisfied customers and resellers.

If you don't want to debate in an open FORUM.....buy an ad.

My challenge stands for a side by side comparison by Sherdog readers.

Oh and Joe Rogan trains. He is a combat athlete and he is our valued customer.

Let me know when you are ready to answer the questions.....I have more for you.

Guy
Defense Soap
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Got an email saying my sample is on the way from Defense. Hopefully our moose-based postal system gets it to me soon!

Since they 'invented' samples, if ABC cares to do the same, I'm glad to accept a sample. I'm not sure what sort of comparison I can do, but I'm willing to try :D
 
muaythaitechniq said:
I've been using an over the counter shower gel (~$2.00) and a loufa for several years. No ringworm, no staf, no nothing and no need to spend over $5.00 for a bar of soap.

As long as you thoroughly wash yourself after training (Head to Toe!), wash and dry your gear properly, you don't need to purchase any of this overpriced "soap".

If I felt the need to spend an exorbitant amount of money on "soap", I would prefer it be tested by the FDA.
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muaythaitechniq said:
I've been using an over the counter shower gel (~$2.00) and a loufa for several years. No ringworm, no staf, no nothing and no need to spend over $5.00 for a bar of soap.

As long as you thoroughly wash yourself after training (Head to Toe!), wash and dry your gear properly, you don't need to purchase any of this overpriced "soap".
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This actually isn't true. You may have gotten lucky so far and not gotten anything, but many of us do these same things and have gotten something. I'm not saying that the solution is to buy an overpriced soap; I'm saying that even if you wash your hands and arms when leaving the gym, even if you strip naked in your basement and drop your clothes and gear directly in the washing machine, even if you immediately go and thoroughly shower, you can still get both staph and ringworm. It happens.
 
El Beebo said:
This actually isn't true. You may have gotten lucky so far and not gotten anything, but many of us do these same things and have gotten something. I'm not saying that the solution is to buy an overpriced soap; I'm saying that even if you wash your hands and arms when leaving the gym, even if you strip naked in your basement and drop your clothes and gear directly in the washing machine, even if you immediately go and thoroughly shower, you can still get both staph and ringworm. It happens.
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And people that get flu shots can still get the flu. Sure it happens, people get sick, its natural.

and when drug trials are conducted there is never 100% successful results. I think we are all in agreement in regards to the OP, use common sense, shower and wash thoroughly (with expensive soap if it makes you feel more protected), don't roll with open wounds, practice good hygiene, and wash your training gear and you will minimize your chance of getting sick.
 
Guy, your questions were answered. I'm sorry you cannot understand them :redface: You're asking me to speak on other soaps and I cannot do that.

You made a soap in your garage. The quality control and research must be top notch...
 
A little background on our active ingedient BAC, Benzalkonium Chloride. It has been used to safely sanitize for over 60 years and is used in many products, including mouthwash!

Here's a clip explaining how our unique products work:

 
Defense Soap said:
Oh and Joe Rogan trains. He is a combat athlete and he is our valued customer.


Guy
Defense Soap
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We all know who Joe Rogan is: Someone who uses your soap and gets staph infection!

Guys, what more proof do you need than someone who only uses this stuff and still contracts a skin infection.
 
Here is an offer for all Sherdog members. 50% off any Athletic Body Care products. We have many to choose from here Athletic Body Care

Don't limit yourself to just our power body wash..


Use code: DOG50 at checkout.

coupon code is only good till Friday, so act fast!
 
Cool idea but unfortunately I can't bite. We'll be going in on an order as a team after we get our samples from Defense, and there's no way I can organize us by friday for something we've never even seen before.

Should be useful for a lot of people though
 
Adam these readers are a little more educated then what you are giving them credit for. Everyone here knows you have not answered these questions. Instead, you go on the attack to cover up your a. your lack of knowledge or b. the fact that your skin sanitizer is nothing more then a gimmick.

I will be more then happy to illustrate how how gimmicky abc is when you answer the questions. Let's do it one at a time so we all can follow along.

1 Does your skin sanitizer kill Staph?


Apple started in a garage.
 
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Belatucadros said:
Cool idea but unfortunately I can't bite. We'll be going in on an order as a team after we get our samples from Defense, and there's no way I can organize us by friday for something we've never even seen before.

Should be useful for a lot of people though
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Send me your order to [email protected] and let me know you're from Sherdog.
 
google started in a garage too just FYI...well sort of. Stanford lab room, then a garage when they got kicked out iirc.
 
This petty bickering between you guys is probably making you loose business more then gaining business. If you can't be professional with a business competitor how are you going to treat your customers?

I've found that unprofessional business practices carry over to customer service. Quit being argumentative bitches and promote your own product. Stop trying to out do each other with insults and innuendos.
 
muaythaitechniq

I totally agree. Trying to fend off the attacks and pursing the truth has taken incredible amount of time that could be and should be directed towards more positive aspects of business. I assure our customer service in 110% more than you would expect. We have a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee. In five years and 120,000 plus products sold we have issued 2 refunds. We value each of our customers. We are blue collar stiffs who value every penny in our pocket much like most of our customers.

I started Defense to provide protection for the combat athlete. Defense actually started in my basement. We created the soap to protect my son's wrestling team which I still coach today. We stand by our mission to educate and to protect wrestlers and fighters. Defense will be five years old this November. I have yet to draw a salary from Defense. What would be my salary goes back into our community, the community of the combat athlete.

Guy
Defense Soap
 
Defense Soap said:
muaythaitechniq

I totally agree. Trying to fend off the attacks and pursing the truth has taken incredible amount of time that could be and should be directed towards more positive aspects of business. I assure our customer service in 110% more than you would expect. We have a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee. In five years and 120,000 plus products sold we have issued 2 refunds. We value each of our customers. We are blue collar stiffs who value every penny in our pocket much like most of our customers.

I started Defense to provide protection for the combat athlete. Defense actually started in my basement. We created the soap to protect my son's wrestling team which I still coach today. We stand by our mission to educate and to protect wrestlers and fighters. Defense will be five years old this November. I have yet to draw a salary from Defense. What would be my salary goes back into our community, the community of the combat athlete.

Guy
Defense Soap
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Care to disclose what the issues were with those 2 people that wanted a refund?
 
Not a problem at all but first let me say education is just as if not more valuable at fighting these infections then any product.

1. We had a mother who was giving her ten year old son a bath after wrestling practice. We tried to to explain to her that showering was a better method. She refused to have him shower. Defense can't work for you if you don't practice proper hygiene.

2. The 2nd was a repeat customer who ordered from us on several occasions. One day his package was returned to us. When we asked him why he simply stated he wished for a refund.

Out of the 120,000 plus I feel that is a pretty good record.

Guy
Defense Soap
 
Defense Soap said:
Not a problem at all but first let me say education is just as if not more valuable at fighting these infections then any product.

1. We had a mother who was giving her ten year old son a bath after wrestling practice. We tried to to explain to her that showering was a better method. She refused to have him shower. Defense can't work for you if you don't practice proper hygiene.

2. The 2nd was a repeat customer who ordered from us on several occasions. One day his package was returned to us. When we asked him why he simply stated he wished for a refund.

Out of the 120,000 plus I feel that is a pretty good record.

Guy
Defense Soap
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I was taking showers since I was like 6. I can't believe a mother would bathe her 10 year old. Gross.
 
I didn't want to go there but it was kind of creepy.


Guy
Defense Soap
 
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