Crime Should we shoot down the UFOs in New Jersey?

[White Whale]

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map

The Federal Aviation Administration has now issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to security reasons.

6abc.com

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map
These areas have all now been deemed 'National Defense Airspace.'

There is a major development in the ongoing drone saga in New Jersey.

Several federal agencies had tried to put to it bed earlier this week by saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration has now issued temporary flying restrictions (TFR) in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to "special security reasons."

The TFR areas include parts within the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, Westampton, Burlington and Hamilton in Mercer County. Flying drones are also banned in Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Clifton and Kearny.

The previously issued TFRs for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

These areas have all now been deemed "National Defense Airspace."

Unmanned aircraft are no longer allowed in those areas from now through January 17, unless approved by the federal government.

The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace may be "intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement." The FAA can also take administrative action including imposing civil penalties and suspend/revoke the airmen certificate as well as pursue criminal charges.

The agency ominously warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against any drones if they pose an imminent threat.

Imminent threat and threats to use deadly force. What is happening right now?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Well, you're wrong.

Well let's discuss it. Honest good faith discussion is the very best Way Forward. What data are you basing your assumptions on??

Why don't you post some links and sources so that we can discuss your perspective since you seem unable or unwilling to state it yourself.

Since you're extremely worried about propaganda being spread, you could turn me on to reliable sources that really know what's happening and are giving honest information and that would help me to be educated on the topic.

I've only been privy to news Nations hour plus long breakdowns while interviewing drone experts and analyzing video and placing reporters on the ground for a week at a time and using correspondence local to the area. . I'm sure you have much longer segments that really do a deep dive into the information and to a place more and better people on the ground and are better sources and have better access to the information.

If your goal is to cease people from spreading propaganda, you have a real opportunity here to enlighten me and others, so I'm sure you'll be really excited to turn me on to reliable thorough news sources on this topic where I can get actually educated.


Right?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map

The Federal Aviation Administration has now issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to security reasons.

6abc.com

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map
These areas have all now been deemed 'National Defense Airspace.'

There is a major development in the ongoing drone saga in New Jersey.

Several federal agencies had tried to put to it bed earlier this week by saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration has now issued temporary flying restrictions (TFR) in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to "special security reasons."

The TFR areas include parts within the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, Westampton, Burlington and Hamilton in Mercer County. Flying drones are also banned in Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Clifton and Kearny.

The previously issued TFRs for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

These areas have all now been deemed "National Defense Airspace."

Unmanned aircraft are no longer allowed in those areas from now through January 17, unless approved by the federal government.

The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace may be "intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement." The FAA can also take administrative action including imposing civil penalties and suspend/revoke the airmen certificate as well as pursue criminal charges.

The agency ominously warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against any drones if they pose an imminent threat.

Imminent threat and threats to use deadly force. What is happening right now?

I'd really like to hear other posters take on this... off the top of my head. It's because in the last couple of days we've seen massive amounts of copycat drone activity, which is people trying to get in on the action and flying their drones in the area confusing the situation.

If I was going to take the government in good faith on this I would say they're trying to clean up the airspace so they can see what's what.

 

[Rational Poster]

Well let's discuss it. Honest good faith discussion is the very best Way Forward. What data are you basing your assumptions on??

Why don't you post some links and sources so that we can discuss your perspective since you seem unable or unwilling to state it yourself.

Since you're extremely worried about propaganda being spread, you could turn me on to reliable sources that really know what's happening and are giving honest information and that would help me to be educated on the topic.

I've only been privy to news Nations hour plus long breakdowns while interviewing drone experts and analyzing video and placing reporters on the ground for a week at a time and using correspondence local to the area. . I'm sure you have much longer segments that really do a deep dive into the information and to a place more people on the ground and are better sources and have better access to the information.

If your goal is to cease people from spreading propaganda, you have a real opportunity here to enlighten me and others, so I'm sure you'll be really excited to turn me on to reliable thorough news sources on this topic where I can get actually educated.


Right?

I'm not extremely worried about anything, just calling it as it is, just in this thread alone you've promoted multiple implausible theories.

 

[tabascojet]

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map

The Federal Aviation Administration has now issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to security reasons.

6abc.com

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map
These areas have all now been deemed 'National Defense Airspace.'

There is a major development in the ongoing drone saga in New Jersey.

Several federal agencies had tried to put to it bed earlier this week by saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration has now issued temporary flying restrictions (TFR) in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to "special security reasons."

The TFR areas include parts within the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, Westampton, Burlington and Hamilton in Mercer County. Flying drones are also banned in Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Clifton and Kearny.

The previously issued TFRs for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

These areas have all now been deemed "National Defense Airspace."

Unmanned aircraft are no longer allowed in those areas from now through January 17, unless approved by the federal government.

The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace may be "intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement." The FAA can also take administrative action including imposing civil penalties and suspend/revoke the airmen certificate as well as pursue criminal charges.

The agency ominously warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against any drones if they pose an imminent threat.

Imminent threat and threats to use deadly force. What is happening right now?

Grover mills is encompassed in that list...Orson Welles would approve

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I'm not extremely worried about anything, just calling it as it is, just in this thread along you've promoted multiple implausible theories.

That's not really a response to my post, so I'll state it again in case you missed it.


You seem to be interested in ceasing the spread of propaganda and so since you have way better sources than I do, it would be really neat if you would reveal them for my good and for the public good.

Why don't you post your very reliable authoritative sources so that everyone can benefit from them??

I've asked you this at least six times now and one might begin to think you're afraid to for some reason.

Also, you are lying to say that I'm promoting propaganda. You're conflating considering every possible angle however unlikely some of them may be with promoting theories as if they're true.

That's a lack of reading comprehension on your part or dishonesty, but either way you're incorrect about that.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map

The Federal Aviation Administration has now issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to security reasons.

6abc.com

FAA bans drones in parts of NJ, notice threatens 'deadly force' for 'imminent security threat' | Map
These areas have all now been deemed 'National Defense Airspace.'

There is a major development in the ongoing drone saga in New Jersey.

Several federal agencies had tried to put to it bed earlier this week by saying they found nothing out of the ordinary.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration has now issued temporary flying restrictions (TFR) in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several locations in our area, due to "special security reasons."

The TFR areas include parts within the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, Westampton, Burlington and Hamilton in Mercer County. Flying drones are also banned in Bridgewater, Cedar Grove, North Brunswick, Metuchen, Westampton, South Brunswick, Edison, Branchburg, Sewaren, Jersey City, Harrison, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Clifton and Kearny.

The previously issued TFRs for Bedminster and Picatinny Arsenal remain in place.

These areas have all now been deemed "National Defense Airspace."

Unmanned aircraft are no longer allowed in those areas from now through January 17, unless approved by the federal government.

The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace may be "intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement." The FAA can also take administrative action including imposing civil penalties and suspend/revoke the airmen certificate as well as pursue criminal charges.

The agency ominously warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against any drones if they pose an imminent threat.

Imminent threat and threats to use deadly force. What is happening right now?

Better late than never

 

[Rational Poster]

That's not really a response to my post, so I'll state it again in case you missed it.


You seem to be interested in ceasing the spread of propaganda and so since you have way better sources than I do, it would be really neat if you would reveal them for my good and for the public good.

Why don't you post your very reliable authoritative sources so that everyone can benefit from them??

I've asked you this at least six times now and one might begin to think you're afraid to for some reason.

Also, you are lying to say that I'm promoting propaganda. You're conflating considering every possible angle howrvrr unlikely some of them may be with promoting theories as if they're true.

That's a lack of reading comprehension on your part or dishonesty, but either way you're incorrect about that.

I am judging that you spreading implausible theories is contributing to the exacerbation of the problem and is a form of propaganda and distraction. I can't lie about something I believe.


You can ask me to do things for you as many times as you would like but like I've said previously I have no obligations to placate a crazy person.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I am judging that you spreading implausible theories is contributing to the exacerbation of the problem and is a form of propaganda and distraction. I can't lie about something I believe.


You can ask me to do things for you as many times as you would like but like I've said previously I have no obligations to placate a crazy person.

It's incredible to me how many times people who claim to come in the name of rationality flee from rational fact-based discussion as soon as they are called out.

Of the two of us you are the one fleeing rational honest good faith discussion with sourced data.

It's too bad because absent your arrogance and condescending attitude and dishonesty.... I'm actually genuinely interested in any of the sources you're referring to.

 

[Rational Poster]

It's incredible to me how many times people who claim to come in the name of rationality flee from rational fact-based discussion as soon as they are called out.

Of the two of us you are the one fleeing rational honest good faith discussion with sourced data.

It's too bad because absent your arrogance and condescending attitude and dishonesty.... I'm actually genuinely interested in any of the sources you're referring to.

I'm not sure what makes you think I've access to anymore or different information on the topic than anyone else or you, the difference is I can immediately discard implausible theories while you embrace them as possible and worth discussing and spreading.

 

[White Whale]

They found something alarming or they just want control over the airspace. I don't think either are good signs.

 

[tabascojet]

Better late than never

Their "operation" is probably concluded so now they look like heros who solved the issue they started....

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Their "operation" is probably concluded so now they look like heros who solved the issue they started....

Disagree, not that I think they're above that but they would have sounded way more drastic from the beginning if it were planned out imo, not confused and incompetent

 

[tabascojet]

Disagree, not that I think they're above that but they would have sounded way more drastic from the beginning if it were planned out imo, not confused and incompetent

If it was dark op I'm sure many in charge weren't informed....now that they know that from sources involved it was secret or need to know only the faa can look like they still matter in this issue

 

[Captain Tenneal]

If it was dark op I'm sure many in charge weren't informed....now that they know that from sources involved it was secret or need to know only the faa can look like they still matter in this issue

You could be right, the FAA bill expires tomorrow, the reauthorization is still on Biden's desk apparently. That could factor in as well

 

[gatchaman]

Stolen Nuke Theory
Its a Psyop Theory
China Theory
Drones Vs Intergalactic Plasmids Theory
CERN accidently opened a gate to hell Theory
Cartel Theory
Training exercise/system test theory
Mass Hysteria Theory
AI controlled Drones (like skynet) Theory
Santa's Drones Theory
Lost radioactive material Theory
+Hologram Theory

@DoctorTaco

You are meant to think that the drones might be foreign, but they are Western.
Drones will be used in a false flag attack, my bet is on an apparent Trump assassination.
Iran (or China or Russia) will be blamed, kickstarting WWIII lead by the vice president.
The fantasy appointments disappear; RFK Jr won't mind because he is Israel first.
DOGE is replaced with exponentially worse war taxing and spending; no one complains because it is to avenge Trump.

Cliffs: False flag to kickstart WWIII

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Stolen Nuke Theory
Its a Psyop Theory
China Theory
Drones Vs Intergalactic Plasmids Theory
CERN accidently opened a gate to hell Theory
Cartel Theory
Training exercise/system test theory
Mass Hysteria Theory
AI controlled Drones (like skynet) Theory
Santa's Drones Theory
Lost radioactive material Theory
Hologram Theory
+WW3 False Flag Theory

@gatchaman

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I'm not sure what makes you think I've access to anymore or different information on the topic than anyone else or you, the difference is I can immediately discard implausible theories while you embrace them as possible and worth discussing and spreading.

But you're afraid to post your sources up for criticism. You don't post your reasoning and you don't include all of the data.


You also argue in bad faith , dishonestly and evasively


You are everything that's the wrong with people who claim rationality as an identity.

 

[Rational Poster]

But you're afraid to post your sources up for criticism. You don't post your reasoning and you don't include all of the data.


You also argue in bad faith , dishonestly and evasively


You are everything that's the wrong with people who claim rationality as an identity.

I mean, I just said I don't have any special sources other than what has been publicly reported and conveyed by the government.

It's my own interpretation of what has been reported that is different. I don't need to pad my own ideas with bullshit other people have said on the internet. I don't care about what some talking head on clickbait media has said. My analysis is just fine and much closer to reality than any of the bullshit you're into.

There's nothing unusual going on except people are spending more of their free time looking at the sky trying to paint a bullseye. The majority of sightings have been confirmed to be misidentifications.

Have you ever looked at an air traffic map?

 

[Captain Tenneal]

But you're afraid to post your sources up for criticism. You don't post your reasoning and you don't include all of the data.


You also argue in bad faith , dishonestly and evasively


You are everything that's the wrong with people who claim rationality as an identity.

He's being added to the naughty list

Let's get back on topic

If one pops up tonight, do you think they'll have it shot down?