Crime Should we shoot down the UFOs in New Jersey?

[Rational Poster]

It's not true that the overwhelming majority of sightings have been confirmed as misidentification.

It's only true that the overwhelming majority of sightings have been labeled as misidentifications after the fact. That's not the same thing at all. It's like asking the government to prove it negative. They come in 3 or 4 weeks later and say all of it was people just seeing normal objects but they weren't even there to talk about that or see it for themselves. lol!!

Worse than that. In an official statement from the White House they tried that lie saying that it was all misidentifications commercial drones and hobbyists they said all. They tried to get away with that lie until the reporter said. What about all the ones that don't match those descriptions? And he said oh those are a different category and then moved on quickly and avoided the conversation.

So in this way he could lie directly without ever telling a direct lie which is just sophisticated lying something for which I personally detest deeply. He can give the impression that all the sightings were commercial or private or military. Totally business as usual. Nothing strange going on at all because before coming to the press conference he secretly without telling anyone his labeling system created two separate categories.. But he didn't tell the American public or the reporters that... he had secretly categorized things that way!!! lol.

Obviously that's slimy and evasive and intentionally dishonest but he didn't tell any direct lies. What he did is called a lie by omission and a lie by omission is still a lie especially when it's designed to obfuscate the reality of something which this was.





That's the worst kind of hack science that I've ever heard of and it doesn't pass any kind of honest muster.

What you were listening to is propaganda from the United States government to cover up either their own state-sponsored activity or corporate activity or other state sponsored activity or something they don't have any explanation for or a combination of these.

DHS, FBI, FAA & DoD Joint Statement on Ongoing Response to Reported Drone Sightings

DHS, FBI, FAA and DoD have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing response to reported drone sightings.

www.defense.gov

"FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers.

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast."

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[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Please do not recklessly discharge a firearm at random things you see in the sky...

 

[Deleted member 577981]

DHS, FBI, FAA & DoD Joint Statement on Ongoing Response to Reported Drone Sightings

DHS, FBI, FAA and DoD have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing response to reported drone sightings.

www.defense.gov

"FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers.

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast."

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Well it's the thread if you take propaganda seriously and lying from our government, but it's not the end of the thread if you've actually looked into it for yourself which you've admitted you don't have to do because you trust your government to tell you exactly what's happening 100% of the time with no lying...

What you're doing here is just restating the lie im calling out as if it's a response but all you've done is just restate the lie.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Are you aware people think they're seeing drones that are hovering when in reality they're looking at cellphone towers or other stationary structures obscured in the distance?

Lights on cell towers don't stay in a fixed position for 12 hours and then fly away though....

You would know that if you hadn't decided that you don't need to look into any sources at all before forming your conclusion because you just trust the official government statement implicitly.

But what your absorbing is 100% propaganda and lies from our government.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

DHS, FBI, FAA & DoD Joint Statement on Ongoing Response to Reported Drone Sightings

DHS, FBI, FAA and DoD have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing response to reported drone sightings.

www.defense.gov

"FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers.

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast."

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Hey man, I just noticed that this is the official statement that I am calling out as a lie. Did you listen to it yourself or did you just read the transcripts that reporters reported? Because a reporter asked a follow-up question stating that that simply doesn't address the data on the ground and then he made an exception afterwards and I'm wondering if you knew that?



Notice he says "the sightings to date". In a press conference meant to address the entire drone situation in New Jersey. But he doesn't explain that without telling anyone he has separated the sightings into two different categories. In fact, he doesn't even tell you there are two categories and he doesn't address the second category at all in his official statement.... He only does when prompted by a reporter, in which case he admits there's another category that isn't those things and then moves on quickly.

That's the definition of government sponsored propaganda and lying by omission.

And I'm wondering man. I'm just trying to understand you. I'm wondering if you think the government never lies to us ever or if you only decide the government is telling the truth 100% of the time when it has something to do with an unexplained phenomenon or event?

In principle, do you just basically believe the government all the time and think that they don't lie about war, the economy and all kinds of things? Or do you think they always tell the truth only when dealing with unexplainable events?

Because I'm wondering if maybe you have an a priori assumption that there can't be anything unexplainable happening or that the government can't be running a psyop, or be doing activity they don't want to explain for unknown reasons and that's why you take their word for everything without even needing to look into it.... according to your own words.

 

[tabascojet]

Even are military can't tell the difference between a plane and a drone.....

2 US Navy pilots shot down over Red Sea in apparent 'friendly fire' incident, US military says

The U.S. military says two U.S. Navy pilots have been shot down over the Red Sea in an apparent “friendly fire” incident.

apnews.com

 

[Rational Poster]

Lights on cell towers don't stay in a fixed position for 12 hours and then fly away though....

You would know that if you hadn't decided that you don't need to look into any sources at all before forming your conclusion because you just trust the official government statement implicitly.

But what your absorbing is 100% propaganda and lies from our government.

You're right it must be a secret alien coup then.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

You're right it must be a secret alien coup then.

Are you ever able to address people's positions honestly?

 

[Fluffernutter]

Or, we can just accept that it's not unusual. But, we just started noticing how often we have stuff in the skies

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Swamp gas

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Swamp gas

Instead of swamp gas now it's cell phone tower lights.

 

[PBAC]

5000 sightings
Air authorities stated most are legal flights, drones etc

People are clearly posting vids of planes including one that filmed an airport runway flight as a likely

Anyway i said thiss before so....

DHS, FBI, FAA & DoD Joint Statement on Ongoing Response to Reported Drone Sightings

DHS, FBI, FAA and DoD have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing response to reported drone sightings.

www.defense.gov

"FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers.

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast."

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Did i stutter?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Or, we can just accept that it's not unusual. But, we just started noticing how often we have stuff in the skies

A lot of the drones people were seeing are so expensive that only State actors even own them....


Those kind of massive drones have been seen low flying over neighborhoods.

And when they shut down international airports, military airports etc and follow Coast Guard ships that have gone out to investigate them and they're followed by 15 of them. That's not business as usual.

The sheriff that went out to check out that siting got so freaked out she called the cops!!!!

The official government narrative that this is business as usual is ridiculous and nobody could possibly believe it unless they haven't looked into anything listened to anybody involved in it or listened to any of the witnesses, some of whom are pilots, law enforcement, government officials, etc.

 

[curryjunkie]

You are meant to think that the drones might be foreign, but they are Western.
Drones will be used in a false flag attack, my bet is on an apparent Trump assassination.
Iran (or China or Russia) will be blamed, kickstarting WWIII lead by the vice president.
The fantasy appointments disappear; RFK Jr won't mind because he is Israel first.
DOGE is replaced with exponentially worse war taxing and spending; no one complains because it is to avenge Trump.

Cliffs: False flag to kickstart WWIII

Off your meds again?

 

[Cajun]

DHS, FBI, FAA & DoD Joint Statement on Ongoing Response to Reported Drone Sightings

DHS, FBI, FAA and DoD have issued a joint statement regarding the ongoing response to reported drone sightings.

www.defense.gov

"FBI has received tips of more than 5,000 reported drone sightings in the last few weeks with approximately 100 leads generated, and the federal government is supporting state and local officials in investigating these reports. Consistent with each of our unique missions and authorities, we are quickly working to prioritize and follow these leads. We have sent advanced detection technology to the region. And we have sent trained visual observers.

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast."

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The odd thing is... why hasnt anyone operating those come out and said anything? Obviously there will be trolls irl that do drones just to make the issue a bigger one but car sized? Seems strange.

 

[evergreenrider]

The odd thing is... why hasnt anyone operating those come out and said anything? Obviously there will be trolls irl that do drones just to make the issue a bigger one but car sized? Seems strange.

Maybe they have communicated with the feds. A private company doesn't need to answer to us, the general public. Possibly they're just cargo/transportation drones being

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Is it even still happening?

 

[tabascojet]

Is it even still happening?

Yes

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Yes

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Maybe they have communicated with the feds. A private company doesn't need to answer to us, the general public. Possibly they're just cargo/transportation drones being

This is maybe possible. Some of these drones are prohibitively expensive. when they're car sized and can evade radar and resist drone busters thats State actors and probably not private.

But if it is private, why did the government pretend not to know what it was for weeks and weeks? And why are they now obfuscating about it and saying there's nothing unusual happening at all?

What's happening on the ground and the official narrative don't match.

@evergreenrider sorry about misspellings. Voice to text but I fixed it.