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Crime Should we shoot down the UFOs in New Jersey?

Sakuraba'sEar said:
He's being added to the naughty list

Let's get back on topic

If one pops up tonight, do you think they'll have it shot down?
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Your right.


That is a very interesting question man.

Or do they know somehow that the orbs and/or drones will/have quit coming and so they've made this statement so that when it all stops tonight they can say "see it was all private drones and commercial drones."...

I know they're getting increasing numbers of copycats so if it's a mystery to the government what all this is? I think this threat is to stop civilians and or bad actors from daring to obfuscate and confuse them with more drone flights than are necessary.

A psy-op from our government implemented against its own citizens does seem quite likely in this scenario no matter what happens.

Let's assume that this is all completely known and sourced by our own government with their full knowledge. If you take it from that perspective then it's a pretty s***** underhanded dishonest manipulative thing they have done. It's a form of psychological manipulation because they went 3 weeks telling us they had no idea whose they were and then they tried to gaslight and say that it's mostly commercial and private drone and all legal.....

And if it is that what is the motive? Why stop in the international airport from flying? Why stop a military airport from flying? Why spook a government official and make him land this helicopter why fly so close over citizens homes and scare them?

If it's psychological manipulation from the government, I'm not sure i like the ideas that come to mind to explain why they would be doing this.

I think you've shared that yu're pretty sure it's just man-made drones. Have you thought about what the reason would be if it's just government?
 
Rational Poster said:
I mean, I just said I don't have any special sources other than what has been publicly reported and conveyed by the government.

It's my own interpretation of what has been reported that is different. I don't need to pad my own ideas with bullshit other people have said on the internet. I don't care about what some talking head on clickbait media has said. My analysis is just fine and much closer to reality than any of the bullshit you're into.

There's nothing unusual going on except people are spending more of their free time looking at the sky trying to paint a bullseye. The majority of sightings have been confirmed to be misidentifications.

Have you ever looked at an air traffic map?
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Well, yeah, if you don't need to include any data at all that you hear on the internet, you know the new public square, where senators Mayors sheriffs l, law enforcement, and citizens have all reported their experiences and in many cases shared video then yeah, it's pretty easy to have a simple-minded theory like yours when you don't have to include all the data!!!!!

I mean dude, that's great. You did give me a belly laugh at least.


You know more by knowing less!!! You know what that sounds like in the war room? Do you know who you sound like? Think of the war room for a minute man. Do you know who you sound like??

I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you're a troll who's been dishonest evasive argued in bad faith and who is purposefully uninformed about the topic we're discussing. That reminds me of a certain element in the war room.
 
terrapin said:
Well, yeah, if you don't need to include any data at all that you hear on the internet, you know the new public square, where senators Mayors sheriffs l, law enforcement, and citizens have all reported their experiences and in many cases shared video then yeah, it's pretty easy to have a simple-minded theory like yours when you don't have to include all the data!!!!!

I mean dude, that's great. You did give me a belly laugh at least.


You know more by knowing less!!! You know what that sounds like in the war room? Do you know who you sound like? Think of the war room for a minute man. Do you know who you sound like??

I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you're a troll who's been dishonest evasive argued in bad faith and who is purposefully uninformed about the topic we're discussing. That reminds me of a certain element in the war room.
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Have fun looking at the lights on passenger airplane fuselage weirdo.
 
@Sakuraba'sEar

I'm thinking maybe an attempt to desensitize people to this kind of phenomenon either so the government can do more of it or so they can obfuscate for bad actors of unknown origin.

Look how they have people believing it's just private citizens and commercial drones and nothing at all out of the ordinary.....

That seems like a direct attempt to get people to accept that this is the new norm and to get them to doubt one another and even themselves.

It also just seems strange to me that it's happening right in a transition between two presidents making it hard to see it. Continuity of intent from the White House on this.

Of course that would change if Trump all the sudden came forward and said what it was....
 
HockeyBjj said:
This was my first thought as well
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News Nation has got a guy on the ground that's been there for over a week now and three correspondents who happen to live there. And they are reporting an increase in regular drone activity. They're calling it copycat activity.

But for the most part these are small drones you would expect private citizens to have and nothing like the big ones that are being seen.
 
ufos are imune to toys humans use to hurt others and do damage
 
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Anyone know what they are yet or what in response to? Facts not speculation?
 
Former astronaut experiences activity that is unexplainable and didn't get detected on radar. He has lived on the international space station.

I'm sure you skeptics know better than him though.

His first guess is a military program people don't know about that is undetectable by radar.

If it's not he thinks it's quite disconcerting and he's always keeping eye out now that he knows radar won't detect everything that comes in the sky.

 
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Rational Poster said:
The overwhelming majority of claimed sighting have been confirmed as misidentifications, and perhaps a few people saw some new military drones the government would prefer not to talk about.
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So how do you explain drones that were hovering in the sky for 8 hours straight, or came up out of the ocean.

You really are a fool.
 
terrapin said:
Former astronaut experiences activity that is unexplainable and didn't get detected on radar. He has lived on the international space station.

I'm sure you skeptics know better than him though.

His first guess is a military program people don't know about that is undetectable by radar.

If it's not he thinks it's quite disconcerting and he's always keeping eye out now that he knows radar won't detect everything that comes in the sky.

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Apparently, Astronauts, Trained Jet Pilots, Military personnel, Policemen, etc... are all in on the mass hysteria. Nothing to see here, nope.
 
Rational Poster said:
Stationary objects in the distance in various light conditions, and naval based drones operated by the US navy.
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Are you aware of any drones that can hover for 8 hours straight?? One of the deep dives news nation did is on drones and the most advanced military drons that are hydrogen powered can only hover for a maximum of up to 4 hours. There were drones hovering for up to 12 hours according to reports from New Jersey.


These aren't drones that were fixed wing and fly around although people saw those because those can go really long periods of time. But hovering takes a lot of electrical power.
 
PulsingJones said:
Apparently, Astronauts, Trained Jet Pilots, Military personnel, Policemen, etc... are all in on the mass hysteria. Nothing to see here, nope.
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Yeah man, when you have astronauts on the international space station saying they see orbs and that they're not saying it's aliens but they're saying that it's something for which there is no technological explanation that we know of currently that's a pretty real thing that people must consider.

Once you start really looking into this and hearing the kinds of credible people that see this stuff, it's really impossible to deny it as kooks weirdos misidentifications, etc.
 
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Rational Poster said:
The overwhelming majority of claimed sighting have been confirmed as misidentifications, and perhaps a few people saw some new military drones the government would prefer not to talk about.
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It's not true that the overwhelming majority of sightings have been confirmed as misidentification.

It's only true that the overwhelming majority of sightings have been labeled as misidentifications after the fact. That's not the same thing at all. It's like asking the government to prove it negative. They come in 3 or 4 weeks later and say all of it was people just seeing normal objects but they weren't even there to talk about that or see it for themselves. lol!!

Worse than that. In an official statement from the White House they tried that lie saying that it was all misidentifications commercial drones and hobbyists they said all. They tried to get away with that lie until the reporter said. What about all the ones that don't match those descriptions? And he said oh those are a different category and then moved on quickly and avoided the conversation.

So in this way he could lie directly without ever telling a direct lie which is just sophisticated lying something for which I personally detest deeply. He can give the impression that all the sightings were commercial or private or military. Totally business as usual. Nothing strange going on at all because before coming to the press conference he secretly without telling anyone his labeling system created two separate categories.. But he didn't tell the American public or the reporters that... he had secretly categorized things that way!!! lol.

Obviously that's slimy and evasive and intentionally dishonest but he didn't tell any direct lies. What he did is called a lie by omission and a lie by omission is still a lie especially when it's designed to obfuscate the reality of something which this was.





That's the worst kind of hack science that I've ever heard of and it doesn't pass any kind of honest muster.

What you were listening to is propaganda from the United States government to cover up either their own state-sponsored activity or corporate activity or other state sponsored activity or something they don't have any explanation for or a combination of these.
 
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terrapin said:
Are you aware of any drones that can hover for 8 hours straight?? One of the deep dives news nation did is on drones and the most advanced military drons that are hydrogen powered can only hover for a maximum of up to 4 hours. There were drones hovering for up to 12 hours according to reports from New Jersey.


These aren't drones that were fixed wing and fly around although people saw those because those can go really long periods of time. But hovering takes a lot of electrical power.
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Are you aware people think they're seeing drones that are hovering when in reality they're looking at cellphone towers or other stationary structures obscured in the distance?
 
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