Which people believe that they're actually here though? Because you've castigated me and the people I was talking to, who you would never define , as spreading propaganda. When I asked for specific examples, you ran away but that's because I think you went and checked my post history and realized, that I've never once made a direct statement about what this is and have only been willing to entertain every possibility based on the data and see how those possibilities explain the data or leave data out. And in fact, most of the people who's discussed things on this topic have done the same except for people like you who think you know everything even before you've really looked at it.
You just have so much hatred in your heart and so much judgment that you rush in trying to cast people down, but you're trying to cast them down for not doing enough research and thinking, but you're making the exact same mistake by assuming things about people and forming false conclusions.
Like most people driven by emotionalism and judgment, you are very much like the thing you judge..
If you don't think people can see through you and what you're doing then you're arrogance is complete.