Economy Should this guy be able to get SNAP?

[PainIsLIfe]

This is the same logic as the incels who say that the majority of women who claim rape or sexual assault are lying.

Everyone I know who is on food stamps literally needs it to live and feed their kids, if you think it's mainly being abused by everyone then that's pretty sad.

Well its a good thing that this is only affecting able bodied adults WITHOUT children.

 

[rambosabeast]

SNAP is basically EBT. Used to be called food stamps

Trump is making changes to who can be allowed to get it. This guy is pissed that he will no longer be allowed to get SNAP in the future.

Of course not. As with anything, nice folks are taken advantage of and I don't believe you are entitled to even apply for government aid unless you first apply for disabled status and even then I want you to be investigated thoroughly to check if you're lying or stretching the truth of your claim to disability.

 

[Satur9]

Was watching the video waiting to see if they explained WHY the 38 year old able-bodied man didn't work

Then they mentioned he was an ex-convict lol ok I kinda get it now.. do you think he actually can't get hired because of that, or is it just an excuse? I honestly don't know.. never been a felon or have any close family who have, so I don't know what happens.

If it is true and he can't get any kind of job, he truly is fucked and that seems like a society problem.

There are programs for many felons, but it depends a lot on their crimes and location. No surprise, but a few of my family members have had a hard go of it because of felony convictions, yet they still manage to find work and stable jobs they can keep when they decide not to fall back into bad habits while receiving help from various programs that I cannot really name or anything. It will obviously be a lower quality job or company that is willing to roll the dice with a felon. I mean, that’s expected right? Still. It’s work.

Those hardships are ultimately on them though, and I can’t really feel too bad if the government doesn’t assist them in dealing with the consequences of their actions.

 

[USA!USA!]

There are programs for many felons, but it depends a lot on their crimes and location. No surprise, but a few of my family members have had a hard go of it because of felony convictions, yet they still manage to find work and stable jobs they can keep when they decide not to fall back into bad habits while receiving help from various programs that I cannot really name or anything. It will obviously be a lower quality job or company that is willing to roll the dice with a felon. I mean, that’s expected right? Still. It’s work.

Those hardships are ultimately on them though, and I can’t really feel too bad if the government doesn’t assist them in dealing with the consequences of their actions.

I mean I don't personally see how someone can't find 20 hours of work SOMEWHERE to get to the requirement.

But if they truly can't, that is a societal problem. We can't let people starve if they are willing to work. I'm not saying give him a career... just a job so he can eat. There is a difference. Maybe it should work like unemployment - if you have proof you have applied and are trying, keep them fed. I don't know enough about these programs though.

 

[Stoic1]

The issue is the options aren't remove 500K Americans who shouldn't be in the program, it's more like you can remove 500K that shouldn't be int eh program but that also removes 1 million Americans who should be in the program.

The goal with welfare programs isn't to minimize fraud, it's to minimize fraud up to the point where the costs start outweighing the benefits. And that happens a lot sooner than a lot of people want to admit.

The issue with relying on private organizations is they don't have the resources to address systemic issues, hence poverty was sky high before welfare programs.

So SNAP or food stamps have been in existence for about 80 years in the US. And it has grown quite a bit in size and scope.

How did humanity exist for 170 years in America and thousands of years before SNAP?

Stepping back again, I think people need to stop looking for the government to solve problems that government created. Government is the LEAST EFFICIENT organization for any task.

A solution is Family, Church, and Community - traditional conservative values that have been deliberately systematically destroyed. These have always been the institutions that helped people.

 

[UberHere]

I agree. Dude should be working but that same people turn a blind eye to corporate welfare. Those foreign Twitter posters with names like Trump2028 have really fucked this country.
There is a reason 90% of US media is controlled by 6 entities. They control the narrative and rob way more tax dollars than the dude who should be working. They will run this story and ignore every ones electric bill is about to skyrocket because of the power needed for AI.

You’re right. Voting Democrat and Republican is gonna fix that someday.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

The fact that this "gentleman" is getting it is an indictment in itself that the system is broken and likely populated in a significant measure by scammers and opportunists.

As someone who has worked on snap audits

FUCKING LOL

 

[Fedor>Cain]

So SNAP or food stamps have been in existence for about 80 years in the US. And it has grown quite a bit in size and scope.

How did humanity exist for 170 years in America and thousands of years before SNAP?

Stepping back again, I think people need to stop looking for the government to solve problems that government created. Government is the LEAST EFFICIENT organization for any task.

A solution is Family, Church, and Community - traditional conservative values that have been deliberately systematically destroyed. These have always been the institutions that helped people.

Ridiculous. Food banks and churches are not equipped to deal with this.

Snap was established in 1939.

Here's what our country looked like before SNAP existed.

 

[Satur9]

I mean I don't personally see how someone can't find 20 hours of work SOMEWHERE to get to the requirement.

But if they truly can't, that is a societal problem. We can't let people starve if they are willing to work. I'm not saying give him a career... just a job so he can eat. There is a difference. Maybe it should work like unemployment - if you have proof you have applied and are trying, keep them fed. I don't know enough about these programs though.

Ah gotcha.

I understand what you mean to a degree. Only if we are talking about violent felons, then I don’t agree that it’s a societal problem that they cannot feed themselves. Seems like a violent felon issue. Unless we just keep them in some correctional facility, in perpetuity, then I don’t see who should pay for these people if the collective doesn’t want to be in business with them due to their crimes. Create a government program that provides them work? Seems tailor-made to be abused. Very slippery

Of course I could be totally wrong, so feel free to enlighten me lol.

 

[Stoic1]

Ridiculous. Food banks and churches are not equipped to deal with this.

Snap was established in 1939.

Here's what our country looked like before SNAP existed.

You're right. Thousands of years of civilization is nothing compared to the last 86 years of government entitlement programs. Those programs that encompass 66% of the budget AND RISING.

Family, Church, and Community or the benevolent and all providing Big Government. It looks like we've made our choice no matter how unsustainable it is. Where we at now, $38+ Trillion in debt? And servicing that debt is now more expensive than our military budget? Cool.

 

[USA!USA!]

Ah gotcha.

I understand what you mean to a degree. Only if we are talking about violent felons, then I don’t agree that it’s a societal problem that they cannot feed themselves. Seems like a violent felon issue. Unless we just keep them in some correctional facility, in perpetuity, then I don’t see who should pay for these people if the collective doesn’t want to be in business with them due to their crimes. Create a government program that provides them work? Seems tailor-made to be abused. Very slippery

Of course I could be totally wrong, so feel free to enlighten me lol.

Someone who paid for their crime in prison and then gets released should at least be able to be fed if they are trying to work. I'm not even saying hire them. I'm saying if they are willing and trying, don't let them starve. That is as low of a bar as you can set lol

Seems very cruel to just let them starve if they've already paid their debt to society. Again, not saying hand them a career.. just the ability/effort to try and work should be enough to be fed. I don't see how that isn't rational and good for society.

 

[nostradumbass]

I mean I don't personally see how someone can't find 20 hours of work SOMEWHERE to get to the requirement.

But if they truly can't, that is a societal problem. We can't let people starve if they are willing to work. I'm not saying give him a career... just a job so he can eat. There is a difference. Maybe it should work like unemployment - if you have proof you have applied and are trying, keep them fed. I don't know enough about these programs though.

You can type the guy's name into Davidson county and see the guy has like a 20 year rap sheet with a bunch of robberies, aggravated burglaries, multiple assault causing bodily harm, some domestic violence with a weapon, resisting arrests, some stealing weapons and a bunch of drug charges. It's not like he made a mistake 15 years ago and nobody will give him a chance, he's been a consistent criminal for at least 2 decades.

He could easily stop committing crimes, stop doing drugs and get a job, but he doesn't because he doesn't have to. You could volunteer for those hours and stay eligible if you couldn't find a job, but I think old Nelson here just might miraculously come up with a paying job if those are the options.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I like how they go for the emotional angle by parroting bullshit from letting NGOs that create misrepresentational statistics, that minors and elderly will be most impacted… but the only person they interviewed is an able bodied felon with an extensive record

Just shows the are full of shit lol

Go pick the strawberries you deadbeat bum. Or take any of the hundreds of thousands of jobs the retarded left says we needed to human traffic minors across borders to fill.

"Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost"

 

[avenue94]

So SNAP or food stamps have been in existence for about 80 years in the US. And it has grown quite a bit in size and scope.

And it's helped poverty fall significantly and keep food insecurity rates down, particularly since the Great Recession.

How did humanity exist for 170 years in America and thousands of years before SNAP?

It existed a lot poorer and a lot hungrier.

Stepping back again, I think people need to stop looking for the government to solve problems that government created. Government is the LEAST EFFICIENT organization for any task.

Name an organization that has done as much to lift Americans out of poverty as say, Social Security.

A solution is Family, Church, and Community - traditional conservative values that have been deliberately systematically destroyed. These have always been the institutions that helped people.

What era or country embodies this solution? Thoughts and prayers don't end poverty or feed empty stomachs. You've typed a whole lot without saying anything of substance.

 

[Sinister]

Okay cool, now do Elon and Bezos with massive Government subsidies versus how many programs or products they failed to deliver on.

Explain how that's not fraud.

Explain why they keep getting them.

Say if they should get them or not.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

You're right. Thousands of years of civilization is nothing compared to the last 86 years of government entitlement programs. Those programs that encompass 66% of the budget AND RISING.

Family, Church, and Community or the benevolent and all providing Big Government. It looks like we've made our choice no matter how unsustainable it is. Where we at now, $38+ Trillion in debt? And servicing that debt is now more expensive than our military budget? Cool.

You think we are 38 trillion in debt because of SNAP?

Approximately 1.5% of our budget?

 

[chardog]

Okay cool, now do Elon and Bezos with massive Government subsidies versus how many programs or products they failed to deliver on.

Explain how that's not fraud.

Explain why they keep getting them.

Say if they should get them or not.

Government can always build their own data centers or self landing rockets...... oh yeah, they cant.

 

[jimmas99]

Government can always build their own data centers or self landing rockets...... oh yeah, they cant.

Ehhh.... yes they can.

 

[Stoic1]

You think we are 38 trillion in debt because of SNAP?

Approximately 1.5% of our budget?

Can you read?

What does ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS mean to you?

 

[Stoic1]

And it's helped poverty fall significantly and keep food insecurity rates down, particularly since the Great Recession.


It existed a lot poorer and a lot hungrier.

Name an organization that has done as much to lift Americans out of poverty as say, Social Security.

What era or country embodies this solution? Thoughts and prayers don't end poverty or feed empty stomachs. You've typed a whole lot without saying anything of substance.

When our social safety net has become a social safety blanket there is a problem. When this debt rug gets pulled out from under us, where will these programs be? Who is going to fill the gap?

Family. Church. Community.