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Crime Should this cop be fired?

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Incompetent cop had to have his ride-along save him from dying

He's incompetent from start to finish in this video

Using a taser instead of a real gun and not shooting. Could have gotten himself killed and maybe other bystanders

 
cops dont get fired when they actually get people killed doubtful anything will happen in this matter
 
He did a ok job reasoning with someone out of his mind. A cop with anger issues would have given him some and i wouldnt blame him one bit.
 
Well Dang it, the officer really lost the plot when the fella pulled the gun didn't he. That was pretty bad.

I'm not any kind of expert on tactical matters, so I don't know if that kind of pants shitting can be trained or drilled away. But I don't think firing an officer that got shot and nearly killed in the line of duty when they did not shoot or kill anyone else is a good idea in general. That's the kind of thing the people we really want to be cops take a long hard look at when deciding to become, or continue being, a cop.

Being a police officer can be difficult and dangerous.

The PO de-escalation efforts were not great. But he was not making things measurably worse and the fella was definitely not right in the head. He went from stating that he wasn't going to leave to demanding to leave in about 10 seconds. But shit did not really hit the fan until they made physical contact with each other. From that point on it was pretty much a trainwreck.

I think that would be my big takeaway from this. That moment of contact was pretty much the Rubicon. The PO should have either started grappling with the guy immediately to keep him in the room, or he could have just let him out, followed at a reasonable distance, and continued deescalating efforts. Probably either of those would have been OK.
 
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Well Dang it, the officer really lost the plot when the fella pulled the gun didn't he. That was pretty bad.

I'm not any kind of expert on tactical matters, so I don't know if that kind of pants shitting can be trained or drilled away. But I don't think firing an officer that got shot and nearly killed in the line of duty when they did not shoot or kill anyone else is a good idea in general. That's the kind of thing the people we really want to be cops take a long hard look at when deciding to become, or continue being, a cop.

Being a police officer can be difficult and dangerous.

The PO de-escalation efforts were not great. But he was not making things measurably worse and the fella was definitely not right in the head. He went from stating that he wasn't going to leave to demanding to leave in about 10 seconds. But shit did not really hit the fan until they made physical contact with each other. From that point on it was pretty much a trainwreck.

I think that would be my big takeaway from this. That moment of contact was pretty much the Rubicon. The PO should have either started grappling with the guy immediately to keep him in the room, or he chould have just let him out, followed at a reasonable distance, and continued deescalating efforts. Probably either of those would have been OK.
 
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Repost a better video.
All I got to see is a black guy threatening a cop. Then the video ended. Now I want to see the ending. Or tell me what happens.
 
The video ended before anything happened. Dude was an asshole(sovereign citizen type) for sure and the officer kept his cool. Lucky for him, the ride along was there but you don’t take them into situations like that. When that douche said “I tell you what to do,” my smart ass would have said “well, tell me to jump and see what that gets ya.”
 
The officer could had sharpen his interpersonal communication skills for sure and which sidearm to pull out
 
cops dont get fired when they actually get people killed doubtful anything will happen in this matter
There wasn't much in that clip but if the guy shot the cop for detaining him he got what he deserved. An illegal arrest is handled through the courts it's not something you shoot your way out of.
 
Well Dang it, the officer really lost the plot when the fella pulled the gun didn't he. That was pretty bad.

I'm not any kind of expert on tactical matters, so I don't know if that kind of pants shitting can be trained or drilled away. But I don't think firing an officer that got shot and nearly killed in the line of duty when they did not shoot or kill anyone else is a good idea in general. That's the kind of thing the people we really want to be cops take a long hard look at when deciding to become, or continue being, a cop.

Being a police officer can be difficult and dangerous.

The PO de-escalation efforts were not great. But he was not making things measurably worse and the fella was definitely not right in the head. He went from stating that he wasn't going to leave to demanding to leave in about 10 seconds. But shit did not really hit the fan until they made physical contact with each other. From that point on it was pretty much a trainwreck.

I think that would be my big takeaway from this. That moment of contact was pretty much the Rubicon. The PO should have either started grappling with the guy immediately to keep him in the room, or he could have just let him out, followed at a reasonable distance, and continued deescalating efforts. Probably either of those would have been OK.
When police detain you there's no just walking off. If they think they have cause to detain you then they should make sure they do. They'll deal with the consequences later if they're violating your rights.
 
The video ended before anything happened. Dude was an asshole(sovereign citizen type) for sure and the officer kept his cool. Lucky for him, the ride along was there but you don’t take them into situations like that. When that douche said “I tell you what to do,” my smart ass would have said “well, tell me to jump and see what that gets ya.”
There wasn't much in that clip but if the guy shot the cop for detaining him he got what he deserved. An illegal arrest is handled through the courts it's not something you shoot your way out of.

It almost sounds like you’re saying the cop got what he deserved for detaining the guy. There is not enough context in the video to determine whether detaining him was legal or not, but saying the cop deserved to be shot if it was an illegal detainment is insane
 
lol another 'second guess' session.

try the job in a shithole city for a day.

get back to us on that, skippy.
 
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