Should they ban assault weapons?

[Hans Gercmiov]

People who need guns are pussies.

Yeh bro, I don't see why cops don't just subdue criminals with their sick jiu jitsu. I bet they don't even lift.

 

[Strychnine]

The no fly list is worthless for determining if a person is a prohibited purchaser or not. Until is has due process for getting on it and off of it it should NOT be used as you're suggesting.

Well, Do we just lay back in the cut and chill?

 

[Stoic1]

People who need guns are pussies.

70 year old couple at home should be able to fight off home invaders with either A) cell phone B) elite MMA training like Wandy.

 

[wandiswar]

Yeh bro, I don't see why cops don't just subdue criminals with their sick jiu jitsu. I bet they don't even lift.

I'm talking the Typical Texan who are pussies that are afraid of the government not cops.

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

I'm talking the Typical Texan who are pussies that are afraid of the government not cops.

Typical Texans huh? Textbook liberal bigot.

Governments have always proven through history to be pillars of integrity.

I don't see why the Jews didn't just flying armbar all those SS guys .

 

[SMEAC]

I'm talking the Typical Texan who are pussies that are afraid of the government not cops.

You mean like the kids that the government burnt alive in Texas?

 

[Stoic1]

I'm talking the Typical Texan who are pussies that are afraid of the government not cops.

My dad is 72 and lives in Texas. Should he resort to fisticuffs if attacked?

 

[Hans Gercmiov]

My dad is 72 and lives in Texas. Should he resort to fisticuffs if attacked?

Well, I mean, if he doesn't want to be a pussy.

 

[Thai Domi]

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Do you know if the 248 was for all semi-auto rifles or was it an 'assault rifle' subset?

If it includes all semi-autos then the numbers that would fall under the 'assault rifle' category would be much smaller.

My bad I thought someone posted it as assault rifles. It is actually all rifles.

 

[IDL]

My bad I thought someone posted it as assault rifles. It is actually all rifles.

Yeah which means the number for 'assault rifles' would be a much smaller number than 248

It makes the whole circus around banning assault rifles even more absurd.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

Yeah which means the number for 'assault rifles' would be a much smaller number than 248

It makes the whole circus around banning assault rifles even more absurd.

Yeah. I am truly curious of a breakdown.

I'd bet the 10/22 has a decent little chunk in that.

 

[IDL]

Yeah. I am truly curious of a breakdown.

I'd bet the 10/22 has a decent little chunk in that.

In terms of accidental deaths the 10/22 probably takes a chunk but the FBI stats are for homicides. I doubt it would be used much for that but ya never know.

base model center fire rifles would be my guess as to the majority of rifle homicides, but yeah a breakdown would be pretty interesting.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

So that would include hunting rifles and such then I'd assume.

So the number of homicides from 'Assault Rifles' would be much lower than 248

Not only that but the number of murders committed with TITLE II weapons (which are very hard to get and puts you on the FBI watchlist) is like ZERO!! For all that trouble to legally get Title II weapons it is far easier for criminals to get a weapon legally or to just buy a handgun legally and then commit crimes or shootings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons

 

[ironwolf]

Can you explain, with some detail beyond "modular hand grips/buttstock" how the SigSauer MCX is NOT an AR-15? For every single intent and purpose, the MCX is Sig's AR-15 variant. The lower receiver is a mil-spec AR-15, if chambered in 5.56 it will utilize the AR-15 magazines. Outside of possibly the buffer assembly and gas control system, it is 100% an an AR-15... anybody with any knowledge will call it an AR-15 or an AR-15 variant. Regardless, for every single intent and purpose, it's an AR-15.

For the record, I'm a gun guy, I love guns, I think every law-abiding citizen should be able to have an AR-15. But lets not be disingenuous and pretend that the MCX doesn't act and function exactly like an AR-15.

Actually, the m400 is dig sauers variant of the AR15.

 

[DoomPatrol]

You have to remember that back in those days, every single male citizen was armed. Most of them had weapons which were on par with what the military had... even after the Army was stood up, the citizens had similar weapons. The idea behind the 2nd amendment was that no US citizen should ever fear an overtaking by the government... so if the government has M4's, the people should have a weapon of similar or exact capabilities. While it's obvious that weapons technology has grown by leaps and bounds, the reality that a government could rise against its citizens has not gone away... the Nazi's are a perfect god damned example.

Again, regardless though, rifles are not an issue. FBI stats said less than 250 murders were committed with them in 2014... think about that for a second. This shows, as everyone has said, that rifles and "assault weapons" aren't an issue. The issue is with lunatics and monsters, not the weapons.

Let's be serious. The government has nukes. They have tanks. Rockets. Submarines. We don't own any of that shit. The US government isn't the same type of government we had back then.

You clearly do not know firearms as well as you think you do, a trend, if you think that 800 bucks is getting you near an FN M16A4 or Colt M4. Never mind the addition of the furniture and optics and lasers.

I'm sorry that you lack training but glad that you managed to get by with what you had.

Amend that shit than, see how it goes

We kicked ass overseas. Never had the need for three round burst. As you later said, you should know the right tool for the job, and 3 round burst is almost never the tool unless you got yourself in a stupid position to begin with. My gun has gone down before, and my squad didn't need to use burst for shit. They maintained accurate controlled suppression with individual shots. It isn't a problem. I'm sure there's some absolutely crazy set of circumstances where you might want it, but when in CQB hammer pairs work perfectly fine.

You really should take the superiority stick out of your ass. I can see it bugging you everytime you post.

There are tons of great rifles you can own for $800 that are every good. I have a Colt LE under my bed next to a custom $700 AR. If anything the Colt was overpriced. Sorry you're paying too much for your firearms.

I'm not for more gun control laws, but I'm DEFINITELY for harsher punishments for gun related crimes.
I served on a grand jury once and heard evidence for dozens of cases involving firearms (only one with a rifle, btw) and I was always pushing for the charges to be upgraded.
The one with AK, I got pushed from reckless endangerment to attempted murder.

Yeah it really seems like the best deterrent compared to some sort of legislation. Mandatory minimums federally for gun crime would cut out massive chunk of gun crime. The more hard-core people will probably not give a shit, but the dumb ones will go quick.

I love mouthbreathers like you. It is pretty clear you have no experience with firearms and you are just repeating all the false propaganda that you hear from the news without doing any real research into anything you say.

Go do yourself a favor and check out all the "gun deaths" stats over at the FBI's website.

Out of 13,500, 2/3 were gang related or drug related. That's 9,000 criminals dead by the hands of other criminals. No other 1st world country in the world has to contend with that. Now you are left with 4,500 deaths. For a country of 320,000,000 people, with 180,000,000 firearms in circulation, that's 1.3 in 1,000,000 people. That's a gun violence epidemic? No, that means unless you are a criminal or involve yourself around or within criminal activity, you have less of a chance by killed by a firearm than some Euro 1st world countries.

Let's look at these scary, evil, killy weapons of war that you seem to wet your pants over. In 2015, long rifles (not just pee your pants rifles like you are scared off) accounted for 250 deaths...such death...much epidemic.

The only reason why AR15 or other EBRs get top priority because it is an easy knee jerk reaction topic for politicians to use to easily dupe their uninformed constitutes (AKA YOU!) for support.

oh noes...just because it looks scary and black and killy it just might be automatic! OMGZZZZ...you know whatelse?

this could also possibly be automatic...

but by your standards, it doesn't look evil...so no nevermind...

How about this one? Automatic? It's more killy looking than the rifle above...so it has a chance of maybe being half automatic?

Rate of fire...you mean one pull of the trigger = one cartridge expended? Like every semi automatic rifle in the world? Capacity...you mean 30 rounds to a magazine which is normal capacity?

You must be real proud of yourself. You went out there and looked up images and everything for your post. How long did you sit there and think of witty things to put in the post?

Did you read half of one of my posts and just get so angry that you had to go on a moronic tirade before you could finish reading?

Everyone knows that brown guns aren't deadly. It's only the black automatic ARs that people buy without background checks. I'm so ignorant. I couldn't possibly identify a Springfield M1A or a Ruger Mini-14/AC556. I just think all guns are automatic baby killers in between loudly breathing through my mouth. When I breath, sometimes saliva on my tongue comes out.

 

[Phelly2]

Yes, if we're really worried about people getting killed, let's tear up the bill of rights in order to ban the weapon type used in 1% of gun deaths.

Sarcasm aside...it's not freaking worth it. I would at least take a "handgun ban" more seriously, but I'd still say no.

 

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[My Spot]

People who need guns are pussies.

 

[My Spot]

Well, Do we just lay back in the cut and chill?

As opposed to tearing up the Constitution over something that's responsible for roughly 1% of our gun homicides.
Where's your false outrage when 70 people get shot over 1 weekend in 1 city?