Shogun's insanely under-rated performance against Gus in gifs!

[The_observer86]

Now, only if he could land punches with knuckles instead of sides of wrist...

 

[Moral Victory]

I like how Gus eats almost all heavy punches and strikes back right away.

 

[HOLA]

Good post

A prime healthy Shogun in todays environment with todays training smashes everyone. Jones and DC being his ONLY tough fights

Shogun: Hypothetical Winner Of All Fantasy Fights Never Fought World Champion

It's such a shame he can't find the same success in the ones he actually does fight.

 

[Ramificatio]

That's it?

Was TS just trolling?

 

[FinBJJ]

Shogun fans will grasp at anything.

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

I'm just going to leave these here...

 

[emperor]

That's it?

Was TS just trolling?

No. Shogun fans really are this delusional.

 

[Boxingislife]

It had nothing to do with a massive flying knee that would have poleaxed 99% of the roster on the spot.

Yeah, a knee that never even dropped Shogun lol

You Shogun haters are delusional. You and HOLA. You nutjob Shogun haters were made for each other

Also, the fact Shogun took the fight on short notice meant he didnt have time to prepare for Jones hence Jones caught him by suprise

Where as Jones had spent months helping Rashad prepare for Shogun so Jones had a YEAR to get familair with Shogun. Shogun had just 6 weeks to go from preparing for Rashad to preparing for Jones. It was completely fucked up

Not to mention the fact Shogun was also coming off a major injury too

Shogun was coming off major knee surgery and fought just 7-8 months later. No matter how hard you Shogun haters try to pretend it didnt matter, it 100% did...there is just no way Shogun was anywhere near his best considering all that....Shogun wasnt even 40% against Jones..it was obvious to see...fighters take shots and recover...Shogun just wasnt healthy. Its a matter of reality/anatomy...both couch potatoes like yourselfes would never understand the toll of injuries,especially one as severe as a knee injury

The Jones fight holds no relevance

 

[Anung Un Rama]

He didn't have obstacles other guys haven't had.

He never even missed that much time between fights. Weidman has had multiple surgeries, and was out a year before he fought Anderson.

King Mo almost died after his cadaver ACL dissolved and his staph infection started eating his leg in the hospital.

People never mention the surgeries Forrest needed, and he still beat Shogun. When Shogun was in his mid 20's, fresh out of Pride.

1. Weidman had a meniscus tear. Shogun had 3 ACL tears. BIG difference in severity and quantity of injury.

2. Mo has been beaten by Emmanuel Newton twice. That's a far cry from losing to any of Shoguns opponents. Knee surgery or not, it's likely he would have never reached the level Shogun has.

3. Shogun was fighting WITH an ACL tear vs Griffin the first time. That is a more serious injury and more more of an issue during a fight than Griffin's. Shogun also avenged that fight by first round KO.

4. I'm not saying everybody who fought Shogun was 100%. I'm saying the knee injuries, by themselves have taken away much of Rua's abilities. Sure other guys had injuries, Shogun had additional injuries as well (not to mention Chute Box damages).

The guy is a Pride GP winner and a UFC LHW Champ. You need but watch his fights to see the decline. It's not imagined. His skill set didn't simply become outdated.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Yeah, for some reason newer fans don't want to go back and watch a legend's fights before hating on him. Shogun is an all time great who came back from a major injury to beat Machida, when Machida seemed like he was going to be what Jones turned out to be. Shogun succumbed to his injuries, it happens in every sport, a guy can be an NFL all pro, get injured, and not even make a team again. Shogun's greatness was inextricable from his athleticism, and as that deteriorated, he couldn't compete with the top guys anymore, then it got even worse. Still, he was a mother when he was at his best, top 2-3 lhws of all time.

 

[emperor]

Shogun: Hypothetical Winner Of All Fantasy Fights Never Fought World Champion

It's such a shame he can't find the same success in the ones he actually does fight.

Hey, if you don't count all the times he's lost, SHOGUN HAS NEVER LOST!!

 

[Boxingislife]

I like how Gus eats almost all heavy punches and strikes back right away.

Gus is a beast. He retured fire instantly even though they didnt land

Shogun's counters over Gus's uppercuts were simplu beautiful

This was a case of Shogun being under rated, and nothing more. Gus is still a MONSTER who went on to destroy Jones in many peoples eyes

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

1. Weidman had a meniscus tear. Shogun had 3 ACL tears. BIG difference in severity and quantity of injury.

2. Mo has been beaten by Emmanuel Newton twice. That's a far cry from losing to any of Shoguns opponents. Knee surgery or not, it's likely he would have never reached the level Shogun has.

3. Shogun was fighting WITH an ACL tear vs Griffin the first time. That is a more serious injury and more more of an issue during a fight than Griffin's. Shogun also avenged that fight by first round KO.

4. I'm not saying everybody who fought Shogun was 100%. I'm saying the knee injuries, by themselves have taken away much of Rua's abilities. Sure other guys had injuries, Shogun had additional injuries as well (not to mention Chute Box damages).

The guy is a Pride GP winner and a UFC LHW Champ. You need but watch his fights to see the decline. It's not imagined. His skill set didn't simply become outdated.

And, not all surgeons are equal, not all physical therapists are equal, and not all patients are good patients who listen to the limitations the surgeon and physical therapist admonish him with.

 

[Boxingislife]

No. Shogun fans really are this delusional.

As this thread proves, Shogun haters are truly delusional AND FAR FAR worse

Proof: posters like you, Hola, Rozko and others in this thread

Shogun fans are educated fans of the sport who actually know what they are talking about

 

[priderulez]

Shogun DID look good having in mind the following points:

1) Physics - Gus is the bigger, younger, trauma freer guy who can obviously take hell of a shot. Plus he is at the point of his career where his chin still has showed zero signs of deterioration (btw Rumble is exactly the guy that might change that if Gus isnt careful)

2) Gus is chasing the dream right now, he has that hunger that Shogun had in the mid 2000's. I mean mental game is very big and I do not believe Shogun still believes he could go after the title after the beating he took from JJ and Hendo (even though he was doing very very good in the 2nd Hendo fight before he got KO'd).

3) He trains in Brazil cause he wants to be with his wife mom etc so he's not having the best possible camp either. That shows that he probably isnt as committed no more

When you sum all that hell yeah he did good.

 

[Boxingislife]

He also got rocked and dropped in the first. They both scored 2 knockdowns each in the fight. Henderson's final one was the greatest of the 4.

It was more a case of Shogun being off balance. Hendo didnt score a legit knockdown.

For the most part, Hendo couldnt even touch Shogun. Shogun's lateral footwork, his defense etc It was on point


Shogun with his jab was also shutting Hendo down,

Shogun was keeping Hendo outside the shoulder with his jab where Hendo was unable to land his conventional H bomb...and Shogun's jab also set up Shogun's right straights and uppercuts, like this

That was the second time in 2 rounds Shogun had Hendo flash KOd

Shogun was beating on Hendo like a dog and out classing him on a technical level

Not to mention this beautiful combo check hook counter Shogun SMOKED Hendo with in the 1st

Shogun proved to be A FAR SUPERIOR fighter and skill technician to Hendo. Hendo simply caught Shogun. Proir to that, Shogun was out classing Hendo on the feet like no one ever had before

 

[SKITZADACTYL]

a couple punches that did nothing to gus, very comfortable win for alex.

not to be a dick, you just sound like a typical shogun fan trying to justify every loss.

 

[fightdonttweet]

As this thread proves, Shogun haters are truly delusional AND FAR FAR worse

Proof: posters like you, Hola, Rozko and others in this thread

Shogun fans are educated fans of the sport who actually know what they are talking about

 

[Anung Un Rama]

And, not all surgeons are equal, not all physical therapists are equal, and not all patients are good patients who listen to the limitations the surgeon and physical therapist admonish him with.

Exactly.

Shaquille O'Neal was considered done when he got traded to the Suns for Shawn Marion, but the Suns have one of, if not the, best sports medicine teams in all of sports and had Shaq playing some of his best ball in years.

 

[MMAPrivateer]

NO people who are a fan of the sport of MMA dislike Shogun. Period.

Great thread idea, but a large percentage of the people who post on this forum really don't know a damn thing about the sport, and only want other people to believe they are fans.