Shevchenko v Grasso is reminiscent of Stipe v DC

[blaseblase]

Two fighters who probably aren't the best in the world going through a trilogy with the title while the superior fighter sits on the sidelines. I think Manon Fiorot beats either of them and quite handily. Similar to how Ngannou probably would have destroyed DC or Stipe during 2020 but had to wait for the trilogy to resolve itself. Grasso isn't old, but she was unheralded prior to the fight with Valentina. And I do not believe she magically leveled up and became better than the GOAT female flyweight. I believe Val lost to her because she's post 35 and declining. Grasso just happened to be in the right place at the right time and we will have to wait until next year to find out who the best female flyweight in the world is.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

DC's blatant ducking of Ngannou doesn't get brought up enough

 

[Luthien]

DC's blatant ducking of Ngannou doesn't get brought up enough

Sherdoggers pick and choose their outrage

 

[CatchtheseHands]

I don't see Manon beating either of them easily at all. Manon did not look impressive at all against Rose..

 

[GiganticMeat]

Well as a Grasso fan I can't necessarily disagree with the "right place right time" thing. If we bothered to dig up back then, I remember there being some hoopla about a few people being offered the title shot and Grasso took it on the "never know" principle (stated on interview) and it paid off. I thought it was a good time to step up based on timing of Val. And I want to disagree but Manon is really damn big. But Rose might have also routed her if she didn't hurt her hand in the first round. But Rose is also Rose. It's weird that you can call all 4 of these women very talented or even the most talented in their own ways. For Grasso I think it's honestly her approach to fighting and how much she keeps adding to her game. I think she actually has a good shot of furthering the skill level at WMMA in general. Slow approach to her career, fortunate/bold position paying off at a young age for a champ (30). I don't see her skills capping anytime soon.

 

[AstralPanda]

Odd that people are still sleeping on Grasso

 

[DiazSlap]

Odd that Sher-virgins like TS want to sleep with Shevchenko…

 

[Dr. Rose]

Odd that Sher-virgins like TS want to sleep with Shevchenko…

you don't have to be a sher-dog to want to do that.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

I'm not a fan of this fighting an opponent three times in a row stuff...

 

[AmonTobin]

I'm not a fan of this fighting an opponent three times in a row stuff...

Generally agree, but in this case I’m lapping it up. Call me a casual but it feels like a high level dynamic rivalry for WMMA. Their styles really complement each other. It feels like rounds 6,7,8,9,10 of the rematch. I really love Grasso’s boxing and grappling-scrambling style. I find it highly entertaining.

 

[AmonTobin]

Fiorot looked defensively sound against Blanchfield. She looked much better than the fight previous vs Rose. She also looked massive compared to Erin. I Still think both Grasso and Shevchenko are better than her and would beat her if the fight was this summer. Grasso’s boxing is on a whole other level.

 

[DiazSlap]

you don't have to be a sher-dog to want to do that.

Way to aim low buddeh

 

[Dr. Rose]

Way to aim low buddeh

Just saying it looks like an energetic and wild ride.

 

[blaseblase]

I don't see Manon beating either of them easily at all. Manon did not look impressive at all against Rose..

She shut her down though. How do you think Rose vs a 36 year old Valentina would go?

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

DC's blatant ducking of Ngannou doesn't get brought up enough

Dc would have ragdoll Francis

 

[Elegant]

Manon isn't even 3rd best in the division let alone 1st lol
Shevchenko, Grasso, Blanchfield are the clear 3 best fighters in the division

Yes Manon Fiorot beat Blanchfield but Blanchfield is also significantly a much more harder stylistic matchup for everyone else in the division compared to Fiorot and a decade younger at that.

You don't just outclass and embarrass Jessica Andrade and Talia Santos (who everyone thought beat Shevchenko) back to back, and not be a future champ of the division.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Dc would have ragdoll Francis

Too bad he wasn't that confident

 

[CatchtheseHands]

She shut her down though. How do you think Rose vs a 36 year old Valentina would go?

She did not shut rose down. That fight was competitive and Rose winning was very much within reach. Manon's fight with Erin is what shutting down looks like.. Fight wasnt competitive at all

Manon isn't even 3rd best in the division let alone 1st lol
Shevchenko, Grasso, Blanchfield are the clear 3 best fighters in the division

Yes Manon Fiorot beat Blanchfield but Blanchfield is also significantly a much more harder stylistic matchup for everyone else in the division compared to Fiorot and a decade younger at that.

You don't just outclass and embarrass Jessica Andrade and Talia Santos (who everyone thought beat Shevchenko) back to back, and not be a future champ of the division.

Andrade is not a good win anymore. She lost to xiaonan Tatiana right after losin to Erin. Erin is also quite overrated. Her striking is bad.

 

[blaseblase]

Manon isn't even 3rd best in the division let alone 1st lol
Shevchenko, Grasso, Blanchfield are the clear 3 best fighters in the division

Yes Manon Fiorot beat Blanchfield but Blanchfield is also significantly a much more harder stylistic matchup for everyone else in the division compared to Fiorot and a decade younger at that.

You don't just outclass and embarrass Jessica Andrade and Talia Santos (who everyone thought beat Shevchenko) back to back, and not be a future champ of the division.

Lol Fiorot dominated Blanchfield my guy. Lol at this level of delusion. If Blanchfield can't take Fiorot down how is she going to do it to Shevchenko? Surely you don't think she's going to outstrike her?

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think Manon would beat them both too.

But IMO shevchenko is in overtime. These fights aren't supposed to be happening. I always assumed Val would retire after that rematch but it going to a draw as made this go on for longer