PC Sherdog PC Build/Buy Thread, v6: My Power Supply Burned Down My House

jefferz said:
I'm showing a $6 coupon for the keyboard. $24 for a hot swap keyboard?! What a deal.

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You sound like you know what you're talking about. I've got Gateron G Pro V3 yellows, but they're a touch too sensitive. I like everything else about the switches. The travel distance, sound etc.
Got any recommendations? My board is 3 and 5 pin compatible.
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Can I get your take on the case I have? I have fans up top, on the side and front.
 
Slobodan said:
You need to get yourself a 5070ti and take all that remaining money you would've spent on the 5090 and get yourself some nice enthusiastic grade keyboard with pre-lubed switches and springs, sound dampening foam and some thick keycaps so you can get that nice thocky sound. Forget about all the mainstream switches, get yourself some expensive Gateron Box Ink V2 just to be fancy. Then for the mouse, get yourself the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro 35K Phantom edition, because why the fuck not, check it out it's green and transparent that's some sexy shit right there.

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I actually use an older version of this wireless mouse to game on my TV with. This is the first wireless mouse I’ve had that works about as reliably and smoothly as plugging it in.
 
Blayt7hh said:
I actually use an older version of this wireless mouse to game on my TV with. This is the first wireless mouse I’ve had that works about as reliably and smoothly as plugging it in.
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I have this mouse as well, it's pretty awesome. The green version only came out recently, I may have gotten it instead of the black one of it came out in April.
 
Okay fam--- side note, thank you all for the feedback. Seriously.

Another question on case/cooling. When I take the liquid cooler out, the top part of the case will have vacancy for fans.

The iCUE 5000X has front intake x3, side fans x3 and top fans x3 in addition to the big exhaust in the back.

Do you guys recommend any particular brands for the replacement fans (replacing the cooler radiator I mean).

Also any recommendation on airflow for top and side? I thought front and side intake, top exhaust but any recommendations or insight will be welcome.
 
jefferz said:
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Thank you. Until now I had no clue about positive, neutral and negative air pressure in cases. It makes sense that negative is worse, often sucking in air it's just exhausted and/or dust.

To my shame I used AI but it appears that I don't even need replacement fans for the radiator up top. I can have six intake on front and side, and one exhaust in back, with the top naturally letting hot air rise out of it.
 
WhiteMousse said:
Okay fam--- side note, thank you all for the feedback. Seriously.

Another question on case/cooling. When I take the liquid cooler out, the top part of the case will have vacancy for fans.

The iCUE 5000X has front intake x3, side fans x3 and top fans x3 in addition to the big exhaust in the back.

Do you guys recommend any particular brands for the replacement fans (replacing the cooler radiator I mean).

Also any recommendation on airflow for top and side? I thought front and side intake, top exhaust but any recommendations or insight will be welcome.
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For case fans I’m currently using these:


I like them because they lock together and you can have the whole row of fans share one set of power/controller cables instead of having to manage the cables from each fan. Liam Li was the first company to do this when they came out a couple years ago. They’re may be done other brands doing it now I don’t know
 
Sorry guys, I realize I should have been posting here and not in the hardware discussion thread.

All components are here. The case and fans are cleaned and assembled as of last night, using some alcohol, rags, and a handy electric airblower. I had forgotten how awful the iCUE wiring is, I now remember it was a mess in 21. I did better this time. I have a couple questions before I start putting everything together tonight, and if you can help me, it will be greatly appreciated.

1) While cleaning the fans I used 70% Isopropyl Alcohol. I read that it was perfectly safe as long as you don't get it into direct contact with circuitry. There will be a total of twelve fans in this rig: six intake on front and side, three exhaust up top, and one exhaust in the back with the two on the heatsink pushing in the same direction as the back. I realized that the fans on the old AIO radiator were detachable, so I cleaned them, let them dry, and then put them in. The thing is, I am now noticing a slightly textured distortion on the backs of some of the fan blades of the three top exhaust fans. The blades aren't warped in any way but I was wondering if, since airflow is so important, whether this will be an issue. None of the other fans experienced this so I don't know if maybe it's a different kind of plastic that reacted to the alcohol, or whether the texture was there all along and I just didn't notice it. I don't know if I'm overthinking or possibly overlooking a huge problem, so any thoughts on that will be appreciated.

2) For thermal paste, the Thermalright and the 9800X3D both came with their own. Which do you recommend? Also after exhaustive youtube viewing, I've found that the general consensus is that the pattern doesn't matter- pea, cross, three lines, cucumber, etc. So I'm thinking large pea so that as much of the CPU gets coated (especially in the center) but nothing spills out the sides. Any direction on that will be welcome.

3) And then finally I'm wondering if I should seat the RAM first before I put on the cooler. I've read that sometimes the right cooler fan can obscure memory space, and that some people need to adjust the fan position. I'd prefer not to. I guess now that I think about it, it doesn't matter if I put the heatsink on first, and then the RAM, and then finally the cooler fans.

4) SECOND finally- I'm thinking build order--- CPU, Cooler, RAM, Cooler Fans, SSD's, then put MoBo into rig and secure. Then GPU, then PSU and then connect fans and such to Mobo. Any thoughts? Should I save the GPU for last?

Addendum: As far as grounding myself I have my old PSU plugged in but switched off. I'm working on a wooden table on a wooden dining room floor. As far as support for the MoBo while assembling, is using the Mobo Box itself alright?



Thank you guys. Truly appreciate all the guidance.
 
WhiteMousse said:
Sorry guys, I realize I should have been posting here and not in the hardware discussion thread.

All components are here. The case and fans are cleaned and assembled as of last night, using some alcohol, rags, and a handy electric airblower. I had forgotten how awful the iCUE wiring is, I now remember it was a mess in 21. I did better this time. I have a couple questions before I start putting everything together tonight, and if you can help me, it will be greatly appreciated.

1) While cleaning the fans I used 70% Isopropyl Alcohol. I read that it was perfectly safe as long as you don't get it into direct contact with circuitry. There will be a total of twelve fans in this rig: six intake on front and side, three exhaust up top, and one exhaust in the back with the two on the heatsink pushing in the same direction as the back. I realized that the fans on the old AIO radiator were detachable, so I cleaned them, let them dry, and then put them in. The thing is, I am now noticing a slightly textured distortion on the backs of some of the fan blades of the three top exhaust fans. The blades aren't warped in any way but I was wondering if, since airflow is so important, whether this will be an issue. None of the other fans experienced this so I don't know if maybe it's a different kind of plastic that reacted to the alcohol, or whether the texture was there all along and I just didn't notice it. I don't know if I'm overthinking or possibly overlooking a huge problem, so any thoughts on that will be appreciated.

2) For thermal paste, the Thermalright and the 9800X3D both came with their own. Which do you recommend? Also after exhaustive youtube viewing, I've found that the general consensus is that the pattern doesn't matter- pea, cross, three lines, cucumber, etc. So I'm thinking large pea so that as much of the CPU gets coated (especially in the center) but nothing spills out the sides. Any direction on that will be welcome.

3) And then finally I'm wondering if I should seat the RAM first before I put on the cooler. I've read that sometimes the right cooler fan can obscure memory space, and that some people need to adjust the fan position. I'd prefer not to. I guess now that I think about it, it doesn't matter if I put the heatsink on first, and then the RAM, and then finally the cooler fans.

4) SECOND finally- I'm thinking build order--- CPU, Cooler, RAM, Cooler Fans, SSD's, then put MoBo into rig and secure. Then GPU, then PSU and then connect fans and such to Mobo. Any thoughts? Should I save the GPU for last?

Addendum: As far as grounding myself I have my old PSU plugged in but switched off. I'm working on a wooden table on a wooden dining room floor. As far as support for the MoBo while assembling, is using the Mobo Box itself alright?



Thank you guys. Truly appreciate all the guidance.
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#1 Rubbing Alcohol is right, and it's fine for anything that is delicate, or can't be removed. If you can remove it, water is fine, such as for mesh filters, or fan blades themselves, if corrosion is a concern, or if compressed air can't handle the job itself, just make sure to dry it thoroughly before returning it to case. You don't want any moisture. IMO, it would be really weird to notice warping after one application. Corrosion is a slow process. You can use the match trick Jay showed in his video to get some smoke to see how well air is being pushed through if you think it isn't. Ultimately, what matters is temps. Run stress tests, monitor temps. That's how to best determine if a fan is doing it's job, and how you want to calibrate fan RPM profiles.

#2 Google thermal paste benchmarks to see which is better between the two that came with the cooler/CPU. The Thermalright is probably better. The method doesn't really matter, you just want to cover the whole spread, but don't put on so much it squeezes out and touches the electronics. That could be very bad.
www.tomshardware.com

Best Thermal Paste for CPUs 2025: 90 TIM Compounds Tested and Ranked

The right thermal paste will improve performance.
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#3 Your order from #4 is reasonable. It's almost always fans that potentially interfere with the RAM slot, so if you can install the cooler itself before the RAM, that's fine. If you can't, which would be really weird, just be super careful when you lock it into place it doesn't get pulled down onto the RAM, and shove it deeper into its RAM slot. That could damage the RAM slot. Pay attention to your motherboard manual. If only two sticks, it's normal to install them into the 1st and 3rd slot, not the 1st and 2nd.

#4 I personally install PSU before the motherboard. I would also do NVMe SSD before CPU cooler. The reason is sometimes they are in hard to access spaces that make it hard to get in there and insert them once the air cooler is in place if it's large like the Thermalright is. They lie flat to the motherboard and don't take up much space. Unless you have a newer one with a legitimately good heat spreader like they design for the NVMe 5.0 drives, the ones that actually need a heat spreader, don't even put it on. The old "heat spreaders" were really just heat trappers. Made the drives hotter.

You can just put the motherboard on the wooden table. No reason to keep it on the box. Put down a sheet of paper if you're worried about dust particles or whatever. I wouldn't worry about grounding. Just nothing plugged in while you build, and keep the PSU turned off. Remember the trick if you want to purge electricty in the system that while it is off, and unconnected to anything, to hold down the power-on button for a few seconds.
 
Guys I'm so scared. I put the CPU in and it seemed fine. But then paranoia struck so I took it out and put it back in again. I know this is a really dumb question but it's okay to install and reinstall it right?
 
WhiteMousse said:
Guys I'm so scared. I put the CPU in and it seemed fine. But then paranoia struck so I took it out and put it back in again. I know this is a really dumb question but it's okay to install and reinstall it right?
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Yes. You just double checked that the arrow lined up, right? You want the arrow pointing to the correct corner.
 
Madmick said:
Yes. You just double checked that the arrow lined up, right? You want the arrow pointing to the correct corner.
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Oh absolutely. I was just paranoid because of the bracket-- it wasnt perfectly lined up. I'm OCD and then I realized that the bracket itself is kind of loose. My second time the CPU just SLIGHTLY grazed the socket. I'm hoping im okay. Here's what it looks like
 
Always nerve wracking when the CPU goes in. Not sure about that series, but old AMD processors (up until at least Zen 2)) used to have a really loud "crunch" sound. It will stop your fucking heart.
 
Madmick said:
Always nerve wracking when the CPU goes in. Not sure about that series, but old AMD processors (up until at least Zen 2)) used to have a really loud "crunch" sound. It will stop your fucking heart.
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THAT IS WHY I GOT SCARED. That's EXACTLY what I heard and I was like Oh shit
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The Aorus B650 SSD Heatsink had blue plastic on the back, which I peeled. Off. I'm assuming the layer of adhesive is supposed to connect to the SSD?
 
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