Seriously, who's going to end up as the 155 champion?

Wand claude van-damme said:
I mean he was the better boxer in both fights! No boxing scoring system because that's stupid. He controlled the fight at punching range. Yeah Conor gots more power and a better striker, and mixed it up well in the 2nd fight.. No leg kicks, no takedowns, then Conor gets boxed up again by Nate.. Why would you go for takedowns on a guy, when you're the better boxer, and consider yourself a striker? Easy you don't.. Beating Nate Diaz isn't a big deal at all, and Conor had the time of his life trying to get Nate outta there... outalanded Conor in punches too
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You're still not making any sense. Conor outboxed him very badly in the first 2 rounds by dropping him 3 times. You say Nate outboxed him in both fights but you're not using boxing criteria. What criteria are you using then to say Nate outboxed him?
 
Conor has an advantage in that he's the most popular so he is most likely going to be offered the first vacant LW title shot spot as long as he beats Dustin. The other side of that fight would likely be one of the following, Hooker, Chandler, Gaethje, Olieveria or RDA. If they have the vacant LW title match shortly after Hooker vs Chandler I think it will be Conor vs Chandler and I think that's close to a 50/50 match up, if they wait longer Oliveira or RDA could possibly have another fight and take the second spot against Conor. I think Chandler and RDA are tougher match ups for Conor than Oliverira is but all three of those match ups can go either way. I think the next champion is going to be Chandler, RDA or Oliveira but wouldn't be surprised if it were Conor but I think it's one of those 4.
 
Also, Oliveira is on a f###in' 8 win streak, I mean EIGHT consecutive wins... his last win alone is much better and more significant than Conor's entire resume in the last 4 years.
 
Conor.

Over Dana's dead body.
 
Gaethje. He beats everyone assuming he doesnt turn into a wild slugger against Conor or Poirier
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Olivera fight brings a new dynamic to his challenges. Always wanted to see him fight someone with Olivera's grappling abilities, someone who is very offensive with their elite level bjj. Dustin caught him in a guillotine that was very close, Khabib was able to change the angle at the very end but it was very tight and Khabib was in danger in that fight.

Gaethje showed you can damage his legs with with enough leg kicks. Khabib would've been very limited with his movement and takedown offense if he didn't do a reactive takedown off that leg kick that ended up transitioning into the mounted triangle. His leg was very compromised, another striker with good take down defense, scrambling, and bjj defense would use a similar strategy in the future. Attack the legs early, longer the fight goes the more compromised the leg will be and the lack of movement and not being able to put weight on the leg or bend it for a takedown attempt will benefit the striker. Khabib doesn't switch stances so switching stances wouldn't be an option once one of the legs are damaged.
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Attack the leg early? You really don't know anything about MMA. Using leg kicks against a good wrestler is stupid as it's only a matter of time to time it and take the kicker down. Using leg kicks against the best MMA wrestler like Khabib is is a suicide..
 
mikesparrow said:
Attack the leg early? You really don't know anything about MMA. Using leg kicks against a good wrestler is stupid as it's only a matter of time to time it and take the kicker down. Using leg kicks against the best MMA wrestler like Khabib is is a suicide..
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Yes dummy that's how you take away mobility and takedowns. Khabib rushed the finished because he was compromised, he couldn't sit back and talk to his opponents like he usually does. The fight was quicker but Khabib was in more danger than his other fights. Gaethje forced him to finish the fight as quick as possible. Kick the calf, you can't catch calf kicks dummy. Shows how little you know about mma. Plus it takes less calf kicks then it does thigh kicks to completely f*ck up the leg.

That was the most damage Khabib has taken in striking in all his fights. So it obviously worked, Gaethje is just kick heavy to the thighs. Even though everyone sees how effective calf kicks are, the majority still don't practice or use it. Anytime Khabib feels like he is losing the fight or gets hurt he pressures hard and fights harder. That's why he went straight into submission attempts and that's why he wasn't giving Gaethje any space after taking a few leg kicks. He knew he couldn't fight long and take more damage to his legs. He started fighting to finish because he knew he needed it.

So what's your gameplan on Khabib then? Just sit back and let him go for takedowns and ground and pound you? His legs are open to strikes, his defense is just right hand up to his face with left hand extended out and him turning with the punches. When he gets hurt he pressures forward but has a solid chin so he is able to walk people down and he'll mix in his takedowns from there in the middle of the exchanges as he pressures forward. Usually when he gets them close enough to the cage so he can drive them back to the cage.

Just because they are wrestlers doesn't mean you can't kick them. You just have to know when to kick them.

Let me get your insight because you are obviously all knowing about mma. Break Khabib down and let's hear your strategy. I'll wait.
 
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Wonderfight said:
Healthy Conor (mentally included) is best fighter in division and only man who can defeat khabib (oliveira maybe, dark horse), if they rematch. Nobody made it look easier than him when he was in a stable place (lw). Alvarez looked like fringe top 15,20 fighter against Conor. His only real stain is Khabib defeat and I believe he can win that rematch.
All that means is that I believe that he is next champ.

P.S. He avenged Nate loss, it was only matter of preparation so yeah...
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He barely won the second match against Nate. I think it was like 49-48 or something close like that on the score cards. He avenged the loss but let's not pretend it was like Jon jones rematching someone and not leaving any doubt.
 
Phill said:
I'm saying this as a Conor "hater", the 155 champ will be Conor because Dana wants it that way. It's all about the $$. Who are the contenders right now? Oliveira, Poirier, Gaethje, Chandler, and maaaaaybe Hooker. He will be matched up favorably, and the tough fights will be avoided on route to the belt. Conor most likely beats Poirier. Gaethje blocks shots with his face and gets wobbled in every fight, so Conor wins that one as well. Hooker is a good striker, although not as good as Conor, so he takes that one too. The only tough fights for him are Oliveira, and Chandler, and I GUARANTEE you that they avoid those match ups. Even Oliveira is extremely winnable for Conor.

As a little bonus, if the Poirier fight (or any of his hand picked striking match ups) are even remotely close, the judges will score it in Conor's favour as well.
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Chandler a tough match up for Conor? Come on dude. You're joking
 
Kono dio da! said:
Charles and gaethje are the only ones who haven't been matched up. You guys think they're going to be matched up? If so who wins? Justin has bad bjj, but can oliveira take and hold him down? Can he out strike him?
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Gaethje starches him in round 1.
 
KillerIsBack V2 said:
It would be even more impressive if he skipped a weight class to win LW belt, pulling a Roy Jones Jr.
Volkanovski keeps ducking him anyway. What a pussy.
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Ducking a guy who claims to be retired and is now solely a twitter warrior in Cejudo to face Ortega?
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It gets funnier every time you say it.
Let Cejudo crawl back on his little legs and beg Dana for his job back with him fighting per his existing contract without any PPV points as he's no longer a champion. He wins the belt back at 135 and defends it, then and only then can he acceptably beg for a shot at the 145 belt.
 
LetThemBleed said:
Ducking a guy who claims to be retired and is now solely a twitter warrior in Cejudo to face Ortega?
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It gets funnier every time you say it.
Let Cejudo crawl back on his little legs and beg Dana for his job back with him fighting per his existing contract without any PPV points as he's no longer a champion. He wins the belt back at 135 and defends it, then and only then can he acceptably beg for a shot at the 145 belt.
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He called him out after he won the 135 belt, and he beat the 135 previous belt holder in the fight before, who popped for PEDs. He defended it afterwards too.

Ortega is not as good as Cejudo. At least the cats in my AV aren't pussies.

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KillerIsBack V2 said:
He called him out after he won the 135 belt, and he beat the 135 previous belt holder in the fight before, who popped for PEDs. He defended it afterwards too.

Ortega is not as good as Cejudo. At least the cats in my AV aren't pussies.

#VolkaDUCKski
#TrippleGOD
#MakeFWgreatAGAIN
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Lol keeping on with the inane trolling I guess, I mean it's about as clever as Cejudo's faux retirement strategy after his lil lady left him, poor little feller forgot he never had the one thing that Conor, Jones et al had going for them, the ability to garner big ppv numbers. The UFC has just moved on down the road, like us well almost all of us, keep your chin up. Nothing's as vicious as a twitter warrior eh bud?
 
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