Crime Sean Grayson - former Deputy charged with first degree murder for shooting woman who called for assistance in her home

[Andy Capp]

About the cops leaving part, I would have been working on my exit pretty early on. But sometimes, it’s tough to leave. You want to put the citizens fears at ease and make them feel like you care-even if you don’t, plus, if they blow her off and she calls and complains, that’s a headache to deal with.

They could have said “ma’am you have water boiling, would you like to turn it off?” And left her to do it. And if she didn’t care about it, neither should they. I will never believe she had any intention of throwing the water at them before they put the thought in her head and it likely never entered her mind unlike those bullets.

I still can’t tell whether she attempted to throw the water or it flew on the counter after being shot, and I don’t much care. Holding a pot of hot water is not justification to draw a firearm and threaten to shoot her in the fhckjng face and even if she had she planned to rebuke the skin right off of his arm, you back up out of her range. If she advances, less lethal with lethal backup and if the less lethal fails and you can’t flee, then deadly force may be an option. Not one I would take though. Grayson could have pullled a taser or pepper spray when he first got the feeling that she was a threat and either would have been more than effective if he felt the need. Instead, he fired three shots to her face and neck area. It’s fucking manslaughter at the least. Maybe second degree murder

Well, I can't prove it was premeditated, but it was certainly murder, as far as I am concerned. He appears to have deliberately provoked the situation to give himself an excuse to "shoot her in the fucking face".

 

[DoctorTaco]

certain members of the human race have a very high propensity for violence at the drop of a hat

Many of them become cops.

 

[Andy Capp]

Quote those instructions you described as "explicit". Then support that quote with a time reference and video. I'll wait.

Good thing you're willing to wait because I could have sworn I told you to fuck off until the trial verdict.

 

[Joshuaace]

Good thing you're willing to wait because I could have sworn I told you to fuck off until the trial verdict.

Then don't speak about me without tagging me. Pussy!

 

[Joshuaace]

It’s pretty comical. The actual meaning of words are meaningless to you (and Grayson) when it’s Massey’s words…….

Don't just run interference for those other men you speak for. What were his "explicit" instructions?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Quote those instructions you described as "explicit". Then support that quote with a time reference and video. I'll wait.

Then don't speak about me without tagging me. Pussy!

Don't just run interference for those other men you speak for. What were his "explicit" instructions?

Why would the cop say “check on her” and point to the kitchen when she was sitting on the couch next to him?

 

[kflo]

Don't just run interference for those other men you speak for. What were his "explicit" instructions?

sorry, you don’t get answers until you answer the many outstanding questions I asked you.

When Massey said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”, Grayson, in his own words, said he interpreted as "she was going to kill me".

And that’s why he drew his weapon.

And you’re carrying water for this psycho. And actually agreeing it was a good reason to draw.

 

[nhbbear]

It’s pretty comical. The actual meaning of words are meaningless to you (and Grayson) when it’s Massey’s words…….

As dishonest as they come. I am convinced that he changed his mind when I came out and condemned Grayson actions. I think he wanted to say the opposite of me and plus, he thought he wanted a challenge.

 

[Joshuaace]

sorry, you don’t get answers until you answer the many outstanding questions I asked you.

Duck!

When Massey said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”, Grayson, in his own words, said he interpreted as "she was going to kill me".

And that’s why he drew his weapon.

Now that you know how quotes work. Remind me why #2 said he drew his weapon, pointed it at literally everyone in the room and said, "Drop the Fucken Pot". You should be able to find his words on the subject in a similar field case report that you extracted Grayson's words from. Since you advocate for transparency, it should be no trouble to find them.

 

[kflo]

Duck!



Now that you know how quotes work. Remind me why #2 said he drew his weapon, pointed it at literally everyone in the room and said, "Drop the Fucken Pot". You should be able to find his words on the subject in a similar field case report that you extracted Grayson's words from. Since you advocate for transparency, it should be no trouble to find them.

lol.

You can’t actually make a rational argument to explain how “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” can be translated to “I’m going to kill you”, as Grayson did in his report. You can’t even try. So you deflect. Yet still defend him.

#2 will tell the jury the same thing he told the DA’s office and internal investigation. The same DA’s office that will be calling him to the stand as a states witness.

 

[nhbbear]

Well, I can't prove it was premeditated, but it was certainly murder, as far as I am concerned. He appears to have deliberately provoked the situation to give himself an excuse to "shoot her in the fucking face".

The courts have struggled to determine how long premeditation takes. One of the factors is that the person has time to weigh the penalties of their actions. I don’t believe he had the time to do that. I think it was a reaction based upon negligence, which is one of the factors of manslaughter or second degree murder.

 

[nhbbear]

Duck!



Now that you know how quotes work. Remind me why #2 said he drew his weapon, pointed it at literally everyone in the room and said, "Drop the Fucken Pot". You should be able to find his words on the subject in a similar field case report that you extracted Grayson's words from. Since you advocate for transparency, it should be no trouble to find them.

lol. You claiming other people duck your questions when all you do is duck and dicktuck. And also lol at your attacking everyone about quotation marks. No one wants to look up every exact word combination that was said. As long as it doesn’t change the concept of what was said, no one but you cares. This is sherdog. In court it matters, here, not so much

 

[Andy Capp]

Duck!



Now that you know how quotes work. Remind me why #2 said he drew his weapon, pointed it at literally everyone in the room and said, "Drop the Fucken Pot". You should be able to find his words on the subject in a similar field case report that you extracted Grayson's words from. Since you advocate for transparency, it should be no trouble to find them.

Can you remind me why you expect every single crime possible to automatically be prosecuted--in this context, #2's presumed failure to act?

 

[Andy Capp]

Then don't speak about me without tagging me. Pussy!

lol I'll do what I want, bitch. The post wasn't about you so I didn't tag you.

 

[Andy Capp]

Both, him for being an asshole and cutting me off, and me for driving a car that has no brakes.

The law sees it much differently, I think. Give it a try and let us know what happens.

 

[Andy Capp]

Law enforcement would list the vehicle that pulls out in front of you as being at fault. Not sure how much careening is going on, but if law enforcement can’t prove it by measuring skid marks to determine speed or it’s not on video, the accusations would mean nothing. That doesn’t mean the brakes couldn’t result in a ticket if one were dumb enough to admit it.

I was driving my kids to the park last night and a car pulled right out in front of us. I am a defensive driver so I always kind of expect or anticipate if someone is going to do just that, but I slammed the brakes and we went a little sideways but did not hit the other car. She apologized profusely. If it had been my jeep and not my wife’s pilot, and it had been raining, it might have been a diff story because my tires are quite bald atm until I get paid for my classes and buy new ones.

That makes no sense to me. If you're driving your vehicle and you know it's unsafe you're breaking the law already as far as I'm concerned.

And this is not about whether you get caught. It's about who is at fault.

 

[Andy Capp]

@nhbbear to put it another way, if my car is in proper order, and I do not exceed the speed limit nor do I tailgate another vehicle, and I maintain proper attention to my surroundings, I don't expect there is very much of anything that can surprise me enough that I can't avoid it other than very obvious error on the part of the other driver. Not saying I always do all of those things because I'm no angel, but that's not the point. If you're speeding through a reduced limit area, (like where I live,) and I pull out from a side road just as you crest a hill, if neither of us can get out of the way in time, whose fault is that?

 

[Koro_11]

The law sees it much differently, I think. Give it a try and let us know what happens.

Ok I’m not talking about law or “your rights” or whatever, I’m just talking about basic common sense that says if you have a cop pointing a gun at you and telling you to put down whatever he’s feeling threatened by, and you for some reason choose not to comply, and get killed because of it, that’s just fucken Darwinism doing it’s thing.

 

[Andy Capp]

Ok I’m not talking about law or “your rights” or whatever, I’m just talking about basic common sense that says if you have a cop pointing a gun at you and telling you to put down whatever he’s feeling threatened by, and you for some reason choose not to comply, and get killed because of it, that’s just fucken Darwinism doing it’s thing.

She cowered in fear and he shot her anyway and you think that she's at fault.

 

[kahiljabroni]

Guys a fkn idiot and deserves to be charged. I'm this day and age you don't shoot unless you have zero options. Back out of the house... call for backup....or just leave. Your freedom should be your number one priority if you're a cop today. This was easily avoidable