Schwarzenegger 80's Action

[Prex32]

In my opinion True Lies was Arnold's last good movie.

it's ok, but nothing like his 80s films

 

[LEWIS540]

Look man, I'm old, i'm not competing with anyone, these days I'll just tell someone to fuck off or act like i'm insane to get them to back the fuck off. I just don't like it, I don't have to like it and as a fighter, most of the real fighters did not do that to me or each other, it was always the wannabes. Your way doesn't have to be my way. I know I can hurt most people, I don't have to lord it over them or even respond, leave me the fuck alone. The most dangerous guys I've come across aren't a pain in the ass it's almost always the loser pissants.

Are you one of those “alpha male” types who don’t realize the alpha male has never really been a thing in human evolution?

 

[HHJ]

Well when Arnold stopped doin the good movies, we all had this

 

[Tone C]

Predator and Terminator are both at the top for me.

I rewatched the Running Man a few weeks back and it’s really bad.

I think I've watched it twice as I hated it the first time , I read the book first and loved it and the film was awful in comparison.

I went back to it thinking " it couldn't have been that bad "...I was wrong, it was.

 

[mozfonky]

Are you one of those “alpha male” types who don’t realize the alpha male has never really been a thing in human evolution?

not at all, I don't believe in that alpha horseshit at all, not one bit.

I just watched a docu on Randy Rhoads, the prodigy guitarist, never knew much about him, sounded like my kind of guy, hated other musicians who were arrogant and always had time to teach, sounded like a super guy, what a loss. In a perfect world, everyone would be like that.

At any rate, I tend to take after my Native American father who's culture really frowned upon that type of competing, it was never comfortable for me but now that I'm old, I've actually turned nasty instead of really letting it bother me. I used to tolerate things that I should have never tolerated. So, no, absolutely not, you got me pegged all wrong.

What really boggles my mind is all the old men I see still acting like that, that really just puzzles me. Some of the most immature martial artists I've known were the oldest ones. I used to think when I was young, "aren't you supposed to grow out of that?" But, well, look at the people who run our world and how they act, so, no, we all get fucked over by those one way or another.

 

[mozfonky]

I think I've watched it twice as I hated it the first time , I read the book first and loved it and the film was awful in comparison.

I went back to it thinking " it couldn't have been that bad "...I was wrong, it was.

I wasn't aware until semirecently that the guy who wrote the book was some sort of mystic iconoclast with a lot of bizarre, brilliant ideas. I just thought the movie was a typical action movie.

 

[Tone C]

I wasn't aware until semirecently that the guy who wrote the book was some sort of mystic iconoclast with a lot of bizarre, brilliant ideas. I just thought the movie was a typical action movie.

What , Steven King ?

 

[HHJ]

Arnold's 80s movies were the most quotable, while his 90s movies are his best (Terminator 2, Total Recall, True Lies).

For me his top 80s movies are Predator, Commando, The Running Man and T1. Honorary mentions for the two Conan movies, Twins and Raw Deal

 

[mozfonky]

What , Steven King ?

oh, no, I'm thinking of someone else, sorry, forget which movie it was, oh yea, the guy who did Total recall, sorry.

Anyway, I thought Running Man was a decent movie. Stephen King, for what it's worth, apparently didn't like a single adaptation of one of his books.

 

[HHJ]

Stephen King, for what it's worth, apparently didn't like a single adaptation of one of his books.

Its got to be hard for most authors.

That's what kind of made the Alien story so cool.

Dan O'Bannon who wrote the original script, felt disrespected by the movie studios and was upset about how they changed most of his ideas (except the core idea, that it was truckers in space, and the "rape" by the alien itself)

So he didnt wanna go see the movie. But he was talked into going to the premiere at the very last minute by his friends who were also involved and was astounded by how good it was. He was emotional just talking about it many decades later.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

oh, no, I'm thinking of someone else, sorry, forget which movie it was, oh yea, the guy who did Total recall, sorry.

Anyway, I thought Running Man was a decent movie. Stephen King, for what it's worth, apparently didn't like a single adaptation of one of his books.

He actually liked Stand By Me and Shawshank but the rest he didn't like.

 

[HHJ]

Andromeda Strain and Jurassic park are great books turned into great movies, but some of the other stuff Michael Crichton wrote (that were also good books) Not so much.

Although I enjoy the Andromeda strain book more than the jurassic park books by far

 

[mozfonky]

those stupid lines only worked for arnold, everyone from Robert Deniro to Jean Claude Van Damme probably used lines like that, I think even Stallone did.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

Andromeda Strain and Jurassic park are great books turned into great movies, but some of the other stuff Michael Crichton wrote (that were also good books) Not so much.

Although I enjoy the Andromeda strain book more than the jurassic park books by far

I read Andromeda Strain years ago and liked it. The only other Crichton book I read was Sphere.

Edit: I forgot that I also read Rising Sun. Thought it was dumb to be honest.

 

[mozfonky]

Its got to be hard for most authors.

That's what kind of made the Alien story so cool.

Dan O'Bannon who wrote the original script, felt disrespected by the movie studios and was upset about how they changed most of his ideas (except the core idea, that it was truckers in space, and the "rape" by the alien itself)

So he didnt wanna go see the movie. But he was talked into going to the premiere at the very last minute by his friends who were also involved and was astounded by how good it was. He was emotional just talking about it many decades later.

I guess, but Stephen King did try to direct himself and it flopped hard, critically and commercially.

Movie making involves a lot more moving parts than a guy writing, or a musician like Prince who thought he could do anything at one point and just because he could play multiple instruments and do a million functions musically, he could do it in movies too, he couldn't. I took a film class awhile ago and the teacher made mention of the fact that not too many filmakers could really be said to do all the vital functions of movie making and still have a success. Movie making has a crushing amount of skills and responsibilities, just look at the credits list for any film.

Then, there's the case of making a movie off of a pretty unintersting book. The recent Bruce Springsteen biopic was based on a book that I had no interest in reading when I saw it, a book about Bruce's album, Nebraska. Number one, I never really thought the album was that good inspite of the many people who thought it was just genius, it just seemed undeveloped and then they make a movie about it? Bruce is trying to sell his outtakes of the Nebraska sessions to scrape the bottom of the barrell so that's his motive for approving it but the movie wasn't really that good in my opinion. A movie based on a book based on an album that I never thought was that special, how could it be any good? It does have me questioning whether to go back and listen to that album more, but I doubt it'll change my mind.

 

[Chama]

No love for Commando ?

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

No love for Commando ?

Kind of silly, tongue-in-cheek and cartoon-like but entertaining nonetheless.

 

[HHJ]

No love for Commando ?

Of course there is love for Commando. But it aint better than Conan, Terminator or Predator. So it's not surprising its gonna lose. But it belongs up there with the best of Arnold's 80s shit. It's the most "Typical Arnold" of those movies.

 

[mozfonky]

He actually liked Stand By Me and Shawshank but the rest he didn't like.

Did he really? I thought for sure I'd read that he didn't like a single one, maybe he said different things at different times. Stand by Me and Shawshank or terrific, in my mind, maybe only that one with Christopher Walken comes close. Green Mile wasn't as good as any of those to me.

 

[gondo]