School Sex Ed

Why is it that values are bad? Doesn't society need some values and norms?

Yes. And we do have values and norms. In sex, things like consent, safety and hygiene are values and norms that still matter. They haven't always mattered, but they definitely matter today. Whereas things that once mattered, like chastity, gender norms, etc. don't matter so much anymore.

I think it's a good thing. The world would be a better place if people were have more good, safe sex and weren't made to feel bad for it or the types of sex they prefer.
 
Yes. And we do have values and norms. In sex, things like consent, safety and hygiene are values and norms that still matter. They haven't always mattered, but they definitely matter today. Whereas things that once mattered, like chastity, gender norms, etc. don't matter so much anymore.

I think it's a good thing. The world would be a better place if people were have more good, safe sex and weren't made to feel bad for it or the types of sex they prefer.
I don't know if you have a kid. But at what age are you ok with them having sex? Is their a minimum age for your kid? I'm not asking to rip on you. I'm wanting to understand someone with your position and the reasons for promoting it.
 
Marriage is something that was made up, which a bunch of people follow because they've been taught to follow it for ages.

So you say a few words, buy a ring, and all of a sudden it's sacred, right? :rolleyes:

Why are you so upset?
 
I don't know if you have a kid. But at what age are you ok with them having sex? Is their a minimum age for your kid? I'm not asking to rip on you. I'm wanting to understand someone with your position and the reasons for promoting it.

I have a daughter who is five, and another daughter on the way. I don't have a set age where I say it's okay if they have sex. Nor am I stupid enough to think that my preference on the matter of when sex is okay is going to have much influence on it. Instead, the plan is to teach them both how to have safe, fulfilling sex lives. That includes helping them know when they are ready for sex. I was raised the same way, and talked frankly and openly with my parents about sex, both before I was ready for sex and once I was having sex. I benefited immensely from being able to seek advice from adults who had my best interests at heart. While it will be tough sometimes, I hope to be as good a parent to my daughters as my parents were to me because in the end I'd rather have influence as a parent than be in the dark and actively deceived, which is how I saw most families handle it.
 
I don't know if you have a kid. But at what age are you ok with them having sex? Is their a minimum age for your kid? I'm not asking to rip on you. I'm wanting to understand someone with your position and the reasons for promoting it.

I have a son on the way (early September), not knowing what he'll be like as a teenager it's hard for me to say. I wouldn't want him to have random meaningless sex as a 17 year old, but if he was in a long term relationship I don't know that I'd really have a problem with it in late high school. That age could go up if he had emotional problems or other issues that made me think he couldn't handle it, but ultimately I don't have a ton of control over it after he gets to his mid teens.

I do hope that whatever he chooses to do he does responsibly and that he knows well enough to not get someone pregnant or get an STD.
 
I have a daughter who is five, and another daughter on the way. I don't have a set age where I say it's okay if they have sex. Nor am I stupid enough to think that my preference on the matter of when sex is okay is going to have much influence on it. Instead, the plan is to teach them both how to have safe, fulfilling sex lives. That includes helping them know when they are ready for sex. I was raised the same way, and talked frankly and openly with my parents about sex, both before I was ready for sex and once I was having sex. I benefited immensely from being able to seek advice from adults who had my best interests at heart. While it will be tough sometimes, I hope to be as good a parent to my daughters as my parents were to me because in the end I'd rather have influence as a parent than be in the dark and actively deceived, which is how I saw most families handle it.

Congrats on the new one. Thanks for your honest answer.
 
I have a son on the way (early September), not knowing what he'll be like as a teenager it's hard for me to say. I wouldn't want him to have random meaningless sex as a 17 year old, but if he was in a long term relationship I don't know that I'd really have a problem with it in late high school. That age could go up if he had emotional problems or other issues that made me think he couldn't handle it, but ultimately I don't have a ton of control over it after he gets to his mid teens.

I do hope that whatever he chooses to do he does responsibly and that he knows well enough to not get someone pregnant or get an STD.

Thanks for your answer too. And congrats on your boy coming.
 
Marriage is something that was made up, which a bunch of people follow because they've been taught to follow it for ages.

So you say a few words, buy a ring, and all of a sudden it's sacred, right? :rolleyes:

It's sacred to the extent you treat it that way. If you get married for the wrong reasons it doesn't mean much, but then you've got bigger problems than how sacred you think it is.
 
It's sacred to the extent you treat it that way. If you get married for the wrong reasons it doesn't mean much, but then you've got bigger problems than how sacred you think it is.

Maybe it's just me, but the word "sacred" doesn't necessarily turn me on. Makes me think of church and cows.

Are we talking some tantric? Or are we just talking some mish without looking each other in the eyes.
 
yea, I guess there is no way of figuring that shit out with your wife. You had to fuck 30 girls and she had to take 25 dicks in the ass to figure out how to please here future husband.

Ever hear of a book or a video?

Practice all you want with your wife, she shouldn't have to have trains ran on her for her to figure out what you may like in the future.


LOL

NCORDLESS---"THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO MY SEX LIFE IS MY WIFE TAKING MULTIPLE DICKS AND GETTING TRAINS RAN ON HER WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER. IT HELPED HER REALIZE WHAT I MAY LIKE IN THE FUTURE"

Ummm.........wtf is wrong with you man?
 
If YOU want to learn with your fucking wife, then do so. Stop telling other people to do that. Teach the FACTS, both good and bad when it comes to sex, and let people decide what they want to do.

Waiting on marriage is one of the absolute stupidest things I've ever heard of, but hey, if you like that, go with it.

Relax, chief. I'm not telling anyone in here how to manage their sex lives.
 
yea, I guess there is no way of figuring that shit out with your wife. You had to fuck 30 girls and she had to take 25 dicks in the ass to figure out how to please here future husband.

Ever hear of a book or a video?

Practice all you want with your wife, she shouldn't have to have trains ran on her for her to figure out what you may like in the future.


LOL

NCORDLESS---"THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO MY SEX LIFE IS MY WIFE TAKING MULTIPLE DICKS AND GETTING TRAINS RAN ON HER WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER. IT HELPED HER REALIZE WHAT I MAY LIKE IN THE FUTURE"

Damn, dude. Why so rustled? Did I bang your wife, or sister, or mother, or something?
 
Who gets to choose what values they want to have. If mine are different than yours, it must mean I should force you to try and adopt mine, right?

Some values society must propagate. If you're reasonable you'll agree.
 
that's cool, you take the girl that was getting dP'ed by the football team and I'll take the more selective girl. We can find out what we like together.

I don't need to hear that I may like what she is about to do because she did it to 25 other dudes last year.

Come on now. Be honest with yourself. No "selective" girl is ever going to sleep with you without some roofies involved. If you even have a woman, you got that ten foot pole p, she's all yours because no one else will touch her. More likely, you're just mad at the world because guys like me have been screwing the girls you wish you could screw your whole life.
 
Come on now. Be honest with yourself. No "selective" girl is ever going to sleep with you without some roofies involved. If you even have a woman, you got that ten foot pole p, she's all yours because no one else will touch her. More likely, you're just mad at the world because guys like me have been screwing the girls you wish you could screw your whole life.

Not true ncordless. There are great looking girls holding on to their virginity til marriage. I will admit that it's slim pickings though. It's becoming more rare IMO.
 
Honestly some people on here sound like they actually are 15. Look, I'll tell you what sex ed was like when I was in high school, about 15 years ago: they told us about birth control, they showed us a video where a guy showed us how to put a condom on a dildo (it was presented in a funny manner, but showed the right way to do it), they told us about std's. They told us that there's ways to minimize your risk of unwanted pregnancy or std's, but the only way to make sure is abstinence. No moralizing, no telling us what we need to do. But everything they said was true, right? So would you guys have a problem with that?

And yes, all teenagers wanna fuck, but for the most part it would be better if the younger ones didn't. Their minds aren't fully developed. I'm sure you've all heard the stories about 13 and 14 year olds killing themselves after some pic they sexted to a dude gets passed around the school or whatever. There's teen pregnancy, there's std's....it's not the school boards job to put chastity belts on these kids, but if they can educate them to the realities of the situation, they've done their job.

This. Lots of moralizing on here. Explaining what sex is, and how to do it safely is all that is really necessary.
 
Some values society must propagate. If you're reasonable you'll agree.

Sure. I'm all for telling society that we shouldn't kill people, steal or harm others etc. When and who to have sex with (unless they're little kids) is not one of them.
 
Ummm.........wtf is wrong with you man?

Because I don't want a used up video ho as a wife, there is something wrong with me?

The logic on here suggest that only porn stars can really fulfill a man. because they have taken a ton of dick, they know how to please their men.

That's cool if it is your thing, but others need to chill if some people don't want that.
 
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