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Is this too far for sex education in middle school? I'm no prude, but I am not sure if I'd present the information the way it was.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/0...ighth-graders-how-far-they-would-go-sexually/

“One slide talks about “Top Conception Myths” and mentions douching. The photo accompanying the slide shows young men with the caption ‘douche bag.’
Another photo shows a man on all fours, with a woman standing on him. The caption reads ‘girl on top can still get pregnant.’
The photo that enraged parents the most was a slide also focused on conception myths, but showed a picture of a man with blood on his face. The caption for that picture read: ‘A real man loves his woman every day of the month.‘” [emphasis added]

Read more at http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/0...r-they-would-go-sexually/#REAoodiOyYgRbPZg.99

Guess which state.
 
Sex ed shouldn't be trivialized like that. If you are actually going to attack misconceptions then take is seriously.
 
Sex ed shouldn't be trivialized like that. If you are actually going to attack misconceptions then take is seriously.

They're trying to get the kids to pay attention / get the messages to actually stick.

Obviously just stating it plainly doesn't work well enough.
 
Did you read the article? I am not critiquing normal Western education or sex education. This is a bit different than the normal sex ed class.

Yeah I did. It seemed a bit ridiculous. It didn't offend me or strike me as something that's going to corrupt the kids though.
 
Kids today start watching internet porn at 5 years old. That's Disney imagery when compared to the shit they've already been watching for the last decade.
 
Ha nothing wrong with those slides.

I teach in a catholic school and just finished doing sex ed for my 5th graders. The guidelines I got from administration was a 3 page booklet, 2 of which contained nothing but scripture readings...
 
This is tough to gauge because each person no matter what age has a certain maturity about subjects. Children tend to learn fast at a young age thus it could be better for future encounters. :icon_chee The older you get the more reluctant and less able to process massive amounts of data.
 
Wtf...what's even more messed is what you didn't include in the OP. The whole thing about "how far would you go?", what the hell is that all about? Asking a bunch of 13 year olds how far they would be willing to go with sex? The source is trying to be inflammatory, I'm trying not to get suckered into it, but unless they're straight up making this up that is fucked. I would be pissed if my kids had shit like this in their class.
 
Wtf...what's even more messed is what you didn't include in the OP. The whole thing about "how far would you go?", what the hell is that all about? Asking a bunch of 13 year olds how far they would be willing to go with sex? The source is trying to be inflammatory, I'm trying not to get suckered into it, but unless they're straight up making this up that is fucked. I would be pissed if my kids had shit like this in their class.

Believe it or not kids are getting it on at that very age that's why I think they introduced this program.
 
Believe it or not kids are getting it on at that very age that's why I think they introduced this program.

If they really wanna know if the kids are getting it on, can't they give them some anonymous questionnaire or something? And they can just teach about the downsides of having sex at such a young age without calling anybody out on it. Making the students line up under "kissing", "below the waist" and all that shit on the blackboard seems messed up and really creepy to me. And I don't see any value to it at all.
 
If they really wanna know if the kids are getting it on, can't they give them some anonymous questionnaire or something? And they can just teach about the downsides of having sex at such a young age without calling anybody out on it. Making the students line up under "kissing", "below the waist" and all that shit on the blackboard seems messed up and really creepy to me. And I don't see any value to it at all.

Kids learn through "visual" training. They will scribble all over pamphlets and surveys. Come on. You were a kid once. The amount of visual shown is the tight rope act in which they are trying to gauge as viewable to kids.
 
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If they really wanna know if the kids are getting it on, can't they give them some anonymous questionnaire or something? And they can just teach about the downsides of having sex at such a young age without calling anybody out on it. Making the students line up under "kissing", "below the waist" and all that shit on the blackboard seems messed up and really creepy to me. And I don't see any value to it at all.

As a kid, I can tell you that ignoring the good parts about sex just makes us feel like you think we're stupid.
Not a good way to teach someone.
 
In my school we had sex ed in middle school starting at 6th grade.
 
Kids learn through "visual" training. They will scribble all over pamphlets and surveys. Come on. You were a kid once. The amount of visual shown is the tight rope act in which they are trying to gauge as viewable to kids.

Yea, I was a kid once....and somehow we managed to learn about sex in sex ed without some creepy ass "show us how far you would go" perverted bs. We talked about sex, they showed us some videos, even a video of a woman giving birth. But that blackboard thing mentioned in the article sounds twisted to me
 
As a kid, I can tell you that ignoring the good parts about sex just makes us feel like you think we're stupid.
Not a good way to teach someone.

Kids know sex is gonna feel good, they know a lot about it....shit they're bombarded with sexualized images from when they're young now, through the media. It's not ignoring the good parts, it's pointing out there's downsides....talk about pregnancy, std's safe sex. Not "having sex will make you go to hell!" or any foolishness, just real talk. When I was in school that's what they did. They told us how detrimental it could be to our lives to have a child while you're still a teenager. It's not their fault I didn't listen.

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If they really wanna know if the kids are getting it on, can't they give them some anonymous questionnaire or something? And they can just teach about the downsides of having sex at such a young age without calling anybody out on it. Making the students line up under "kissing", "below the waist" and all that shit on the blackboard seems messed up and really creepy to me. And I don't see any value to it at all.

It's not about finding out if the kids are having sex. Some of them definitely are. It's about bringing shame into it to discourage them from having sex.

Someone having their feelings hurt for doing bad things isn't the end of the world. A lot of people would probably say that it's deserved.

Too bad it probably won't work because the kids who are sexually active at that age probably think it's cool and won't be embarrassed.









and at least now the boys in the class know who the easy ones are, right? right?
 
Wtf...what's even more messed is what you didn't include in the OP. The whole thing about "how far would you go?", what the hell is that all about? Asking a bunch of 13 year olds how far they would be willing to go with sex? The source is trying to be inflammatory, I'm trying not to get suckered into it, but unless they're straight up making this up that is fucked. I would be pissed if my kids had shit like this in their class.

Agreed.

I don't even know what that's supposed to teach them - that some of their classmates will go further than others? If that doesn't open the door to peer pressure, I don't will.

I think sex ed is important but I really feel like schools are just pushing beyond what I think is the appropriate line between what the parents should teach and what the school should teach.
 
It's not about finding out if the kids are having sex. Some of them definitely are. It's about bringing shame into it to discourage them from having sex.

Someone having their feelings hurt for doing bad things isn't the end of the world. A lot of people would probably say that it's deserved.

Too bad it probably won't work because the kids who are sexually active at that age probably think it's cool and won't be embarrassed.









and at least now the boys in the class know who the easy ones are, right? right?

Right, and the kids who aren't getting anything are probably feeling embarrassed, and it's gonna add even more pressure to them to start becoming sexually active. So if this is really about discouraging them, it would probably have the opposite effect. This whole thing was retarded, what is the thought process that goes into something like this?
 
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