Out of the four I mentioned, only Pendlay trains mainly weightlifters. Wendler's background is in football and powerlifting, Rippetoe's background is powerlifting and strength training for novices, especially youths, and while Bill Starr did compete as a weightlifter, he trained athletes for football.
PL and WL are basically the same kind of sport, different rules, but they are about a 1RM, their trainings are similar.
Football is another sport that its mainly about max effort, and i still doubt that wide-receivers and runningbacks are doing Oly lifts, specially since competitive season is so long in NFL, so there is little time to train general exercises.
I stand corrected and thank you for providing these articles, do you by any chance have a link to the full articles?
Just because you can name coaches that don't make use of the olympic lifts doesn't show that they aren't useful in training athletes. Besides which, I didn't throw around just any names, which should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about lifting.
Never said they are useless, i said the learning curve is too high and the risk of injury is too for inexperienced athletes and that there are easier exercises to build power.
Jump squats, high pulls? (we just called them halfcleans) exert similar results to full cleans, and i would say that snatch has no place outside oly weighltifting
Stating repeatedly that they will certainly fuck up your wrists, even if you're competent in them, and how awful that is unless your sport is TKD, is telling people to avoid olympic lifts. Or do you not understand what your own words imply?
Stating that i said such a thing over and over is the same or worse, let me refer to the original quotation.
Beware of Olympic lifts, if you can do them ok, but if you are thinking about beggining, take into account that they are hard and they have a long history of messing the wrists which would screw up any combat sport but TKD.
There are IMO, easier ways to increase explosivity squat jumps, hang cleans, box jumps etc.
I specifically said to beware or be careful of Olympic lifts IF you are thinking about beggining, which was the original reply, they are HARD (and they are HARD to master, no denying this) and do have a long history of ****ing up wrist specially when LEARNING.
A fucked wrist will impact ALL combat sports but TKD, which is also true. I also pointed out that in my opinion, there are easier ways to increase explosivity.
Again, you go from that, to me saying oly lifts are bad and they will certainly injure, when i specifically said that i practice oly lifting.