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Economy Samsung to stop production at its last computer factory in China

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by MicroBrew, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:08 AM.

  1. Sauron Red Belt

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    Calling someone a Chinese shill is not an argument. It's called shutting down the argument.
     
  2. Zazen Brown Belt

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    Because we have to lead by example if we are going to be the moral authority of the planet. Do you realize most American politicians call the Iraq War a "mistake"? A war that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. Come on man, this is the kind of dishonesty that has become common in today's political landscape. Could you just imagine if China did something similar to that? There would be non-stop 24 hour media going nuts and getting hard on for a war.

    Anyway just take a trip to China for yourself someday and talk to regular people. They're aren't in fear, they are doing their own thing and enjoying life just like most of American people are. Both of our governments have done some really awful things but you're damn right I'm going to point out our flaws before I condemn anyone else.
     
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  3. Yehudim Orange Belt

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    And I already addressed the argument

    Re-read the post. I just called him out for using LITERAL Chinese propaganda and then gave my opinion why the Chinese will not rise up.
     
  4. Yehudim Orange Belt

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    Hey in case you haven’t noticed, the CCP never stopped committing atrocities.

    Unfortunately we will not know the numbers until they collapse and we get archives.

    It could be millions and I’m talking about post-Tiananmen massacre, not some famine in the 60s
     
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  5. Sauron Red Belt

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    No you didn't. I'm not going to re-read your shit post. There are lots of sources where you can gauge Chinese opinion.
     
  6. Yehudim Orange Belt

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    Wise dodge
     
  7. morgado388 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I think that is something both the Right and the Left can agree on.
     
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  8. Sauron Red Belt

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    There's nothing to dodge. You're not a serious person. I could argue with my dog if I wanted your level of debate.
     
  9. Yehudim Orange Belt

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    Calling someone an idiot is not argument. It’s called shutting down an argument.
     
  10. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    Yeah I think Americans have this idea that people elsewhere naturally oppose a dictatorship. This is not necessarily true. Lots of people like fascism, even some here in the US, as long as their group is running the show. The locals in the UAE are happy with their government despite it being an autocracy with no freedom of expression and any criticism or opposition to the rulers being squashed . China has a very strong ethnoNationalist sentiment amongst its populace. Since China's rise, the Han see this as their opportunity to rule.

    'China is powerful now': Beijing's aggressive global stance sparks wave of nationalism

    Residents noted how different the scene was to one in 1999, when thousands of Chinese protesters descended on the US embassy in Beijing, after the US bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. Crying and pelting the building with eggs,stones and any other objects they could find, demonstrators were angry at the US but also frustrated at how little their government could do to retaliate.


    “Our country is not like before. We can do more than just make statements, we can actually take action,” says Wu, 25, who lives in Chengdu and visited the consulate on its last day on Monday, snapping a few photos to keep. “Back then China couldn’t afford to offend the US, but China is powerful now and not afraid of American imperialism.”

    As China finds itself under attack abroad as a result of its increasingly aggressive global stance, nationalist sentiment at home appears to be growing stronger. Officials have honed support with the usual tools of propaganda and patriotic education, as well as new tactics, such as “wolf warrior” diplomacy, characterised by aggressive attacks on the country’s foreign critics.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sive-global-stance-sparks-wave-of-nationalism
     
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  11. Sauron Red Belt

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    Exactly. This idea that China is just another dictatorship can't comprehend that the Chinese want their country to be powerful.

    The failure to understand the other side will lead to big problems. "Standing with the Chinese people" won't cut it as far as meaningless platitudes.
     
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  12. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    The mainland Han want China to rule the world.
    We don't really know how many people China has in prison, just as we don't know how many died from Wuhan virus. The figure for number of Chinese incarcerated almos surely does not unclude the 1 million plus Uighurs and other minorities thrown into concentration camps.
     
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  13. ElKarlo Steel Belt

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    It's become abundantly clear that this is the case. Anything and everything dealing with China has been met with shrieking and gnashing of teeth. Often times for no reason. As if even a fraction of those jobs came back, it'd benefit the US greatly
     
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  14. MicroBrew Titanium Belt

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    We do business because to paraphrase Lenin : Capitalists will sell the rope used to hang them with. The CCP has a long term civilization agenda, to dominate the region and the world. Our corporate and political elite are thinking of quarterly reports, elections every 4 years and becoming rich. It's a bit of trajedy of the commons phenomena, where on the corporate level Americans benefit by dealing with China but as a society we will lose in the long term.
     
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    This tariff war is hurting both sides. I've seen some posters acting like it's no big deal to China but they are wrong it's hurting their economy.
     
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    NBA= North Bietnamese Army.
     
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  17. ElKarlo Steel Belt

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    Yeah, it's not even close. China isn't misunderstood. It's a bad actor and is only getting more bold. Imprisoned people's are probably way higher than their stats will show. Crack downs and lack of freedoms is real. Not too mention their erasing of minority group identities.
    China wants to be strong, but the path there is awful
     
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    China's GDP per capital has grown something crazy like 24x since 1980. They have a 400 million member middle class and are now buying things that not only they make, but things the rest of the world makes as well. There are a lot of easy gains to be made in productivity and standard of living so there is much more consumer growth to come.

    I think the world can change their behavior a bit with actions like Samsung is taking... But China WILL be the most reliable and important driver of the global economy going forward. Period.
     
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    And you want to gain some political capital with them ?
     

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