Same sex marriage vote in Australia.

[grimballer]

Does allowing gay couples to marry reduce the ability of straight couples to do so? No.

Does it impact straight couples having children? No.

The point is people should enjoy the same rights regardless of sexual orientation.

You could substitute in bestislity, pedophilia, necrophilia, incest...

N would come up with same answer

Weak argument

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

What bill was this ?

Cunts.

Theyve agreed to cut penaly rates to retail and hospitality workers our lowest working icome earners. This is just the 1st step to abolish penalty rates acrosd the board for all workers, tnere basicaly testing the waters

 

[Orgasmo]

You could substitute in bestislity, pedophilia, necrophilia, incest...

N would come up with same answer

Weak argument

Bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia involve consent between two able bodied adults? Incest has biological implocations when it comes to offsprings, whereas gay relationships do not.

 

[pinger]

The reason was because of the left. They intimidated, bullied, and even assaulted many people who said they'd vote 'no.' When this happened the media said little about it too.
Even businesses were threatened in some cases.
Even tho' i knew my protest vote wouldn't change things it made me feel good. I'm for same sex marriage and i knew it would get thru'.
A lot of people just got sick of the bullying.
.

Lol, now imagine being gay and dealing this with every day of your life.

Thankfully they show more strength of will and class than you.

 

[grimballer]

Bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia involve consent between two able bodied adults? Incest has biological implocations when it comes to offsprings, whereas gay relationships do not.

1. There are many limitations/restrictions on what consenting adults can or can not do in any society. So them being consenting about something isn’t saying much

2. Homosexuality itself is abnormal n dysfunctional. It’s an paraphilia. You have (physically) perfectly normal individuals with functioning sex ograns. Homosexual man can impregnate a woman, a lesbian can be impregnated by a man. The issue is clearly between their two ears.

 

[oldshadow]

would you say that marriage in general is a basic human right ? if yes, then so is gay marriage..

So marriage to who you want and how many is a human right?

 

[Orgasmo]

1. There are many limitations/restrictions on what consenting adults can or can not do in any society. So them being consenting about something isn’t saying much

2. Homosexuality itself is abnormal n dysfunctional. It’s an paraphilia. You have (physically) perfectly normal individuals with functioning sex ograns. Homosexual man can impregnate a woman, a lesbian can be impregnated by a man. The issue is clearly between their two ears.

They're not causing any harm to third party, other than your feelings. The relationship of others do not concern you. There are plenty of evidence that homosexual behaviors exist in nature other than human beings. Being attracted to the same sex does not make a person dysfunctional or abnormal. It's not up to you to dictate what they can or cannot do, especially when it doesn't impact you.

 

[oldshadow]

Bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia involve consent between two able bodied adults? Incest has biological implocations when it comes to offsprings, whereas gay relationships do not.

Age also greatly increases the biological implications so should there be age limits.

 

[original doom]

Theyve agreed to cut penaly rates to retail and hospitality workers our lowest working icome earners. This is just the 1st step to abolish penalty rates acrosd the board for all workers, tnere basicaly testing the waters

Yeh i do recall heating bout this. If they abolish penalty rates then good luck getting people in on OT over the weekend.

 

[Oeshon]

And while this nonissue was happening they snuck a bill through parliament taking away workers rights and affectivly stripping millions away workers of there penalty rates.

But l8ke useaul nobody cared because they where caught up the media and political buzz that was the gay marrage debate

Was this the bill to greatly reduce weekend penalty rates? That is going to suck for a lot of students who do part time weekend work.

 

[skold]

Does allowing gay couples to marry reduce the ability of straight couples to do so? No.

Does it impact straight couples having children? No.

The point is people should enjoy the same rights regardless of sexual orientation.

It's almost as if anyone with a brain capable of logical thought would draw this exact conclusion...

 

[grimballer]

They're not causing any harm to third party, other than your feelings. The relationship of others do not concern you. There are plenty of evidence that homosexual behaviors exist in nature other than human beings. Being attracted to the same sex does not make a person dysfunctional or abnormal. It's not up to you to dictate what they can or cannot do, especially when it doesn't impact you.

It’s on you to tell ppl how n what to think?

Don’t think too many ppl care what homosexuals do in privacy of their own homes as long as it stays in privacy of their own homes.

Yes homosexual behaviour exists in nature, but so does disease n other types disorders. It doesn’t make them normal.

Homosexuality itself is a disorder. If you deny that, then you should go back to your biology lessons n refresh whAt you learned there about sexual reproduction n how it works.

Society should strive to promote healthy behaviour, not this ssm nonsense

 

[skold]

1. There are many limitations/restrictions on what consenting adults can or can not do in any society. So them being consenting about something isn’t saying much

2. Homosexuality itself is abnormal n dysfunctional. It’s an paraphilia. You have (physically) perfectly normal individuals with functioning sex ograns. Homosexual man can impregnate a woman, a lesbian can be impregnated by a man. The issue is clearly between their two ears.

Nonsense, homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon observed in most sexually reproducing mammals species. A natures population control

 

[JohnnySagebrush]

Nonsense, homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon observed in most sexually reproducing mammals species. A natures population control

Folks like grimballer should contemplate why homosexuality has not disappeared through natural selection. Characterize it as abnormal, if you will. It is. But so is red hair, high IQ, 20/10 eyesight, schizophrenia, etc. Who cares. Abnormality isn’t necessarily good or bad and has what to do with the argument?

Congrats, Australia.

 

[grimballer]

Nonsense, homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon observed in most sexually reproducing mammals species. A natures population control

Yup just like disease n other type of disorders

Does it occur naturally? Sure

Is it normal functioning? Not really

Unless you wanna argue ppl born with other type of deficiencies is also perfectly “normal”

 

[grimballer]

Folks like grimballer should contemplate why homosexuality has not disappeared through natural selection. Characterize it as abnormal, if you will. It is. But so is red hair, high IQ, 20/10 eyesight, schizophrenia, etc. Who cares. Abnormality isn’t necessarily good or bad and has what to do with the argument?

Congrats, Australia.

Why didn’t all the diseases disappear through natural selection?

You can spin it all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s an abnormal sexual behaviour n as such it should not force society to change it laws to accommodate ppl taking part in that type of behaviour

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Was this the bill to greatly reduce weekend penalty rates? That is going to suck for a lot of students who do part time weekend work.

The bill was to remove penality rates, but it may have a chance to be turned over due to the citizenship debacle thats going on

 

[Oeshon]

The bill was to remove penality rates, but it may have a chance to be turned over due to the citizenship debacle thats going on

That will suck balls for a lot of people.

 

[Orgasmo]

It’s on you to tell ppl how n what to think?

Don’t think too many ppl care what homosexuals do in privacy of their own homes as long as it stays in privacy of their own homes.

Yes homosexual behaviour exists in nature, but so does disease n other types disorders. It doesn’t make them normal.

Homosexuality itself is a disorder. If you deny that, then you should go back to your biology lessons n refresh whAt you learned there about sexual reproduction n how it works.

Society should strive to promote healthy behaviour, not this ssm nonsense

How does homosexual couples impact your quality of life? Are you unable to find a woman because of them? Are you unable to have a child because gays can marry? If those were the cases, it's not gay marriage that's causing your problems. Homosexuality is not a disorder, and no medical professional recognize it as so. It is a consensual relationship between two or more adults.

Marriage and common law partnership are institutions provided by the government, and denying gays access to them are in violation of their equality rights. It's not up to you to dictate what is healthy and what is not. The fact that you want to deny the same right to homosexuals is very unhealthy in a free and democratic society. I'm sorry that homosexuals being allowed equal rights bothers you, but tough shit. Your morality stops where others' right begins.

 

[skold]

Yup just like disease n other type of disorders

Does it occur naturally? Sure

Is it normal functioning? Not really

Unless you wanna argue ppl born with other type of deficiencies is also perfectly “normal”

You don't really have an argument there. Biological conditions you are born with should have zero impact on what social rights one has. Marriage is not a biological phenomenon and should have zero biological implications.


Also, what is all this "normal" talk? Are you saying we should deny equal rights based on biology and what we perceive as "normal"?

Should people with allergies or lactose intolerance be denied the same rights?

You literally don't have even a first draft of a cohesive argument