International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V9

[AWilder]

HAHAHAHA this moron...

 

[Rod1]

The liberals of America help created this war from years before. The liberals are blood thirsty warmongers.

Liberals used their mind controlling devices to force Putin to invade Ukraine.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Maybe we shouldn’t get involved if this is going to lead us to another war or worse, a Nuclear war. I rather Ukraine become a Russia puppet instead of Ukrainians getting killed from a war where USA helped initiate.

We know, dude. We know.

 

[7even]

We know, dude. We know.

I rather that happen than a nuke blowing up Kyiv. I’m such a monster.


Anyway, the war already started. I want Ukraine to win. Let’s just hope Kyiv doesn’t get nuked.

 

[Rod1]

Now all you liberal anti war dorks want to play the risk of ending the world with a nuclear war.

For all the call of "liberals are pussies" you guys are so willing to bow down to manlet Putin and let him do anything, why stop in Ukraine though? invade Moldova, Poland, Georgia don't fight back because "muh nukes", hell just make Putin the king of America, im sure you guys would like that.

 

[Rod1]

I liked when they said "Allah-Akbar"

The job of being barrier troops shooting Tik Tok videos while raping and murdering civilians just got pretty risky in the age of HIMARS

 

[Denter]

Instead of pointing the finger at Ukraine why are you not pointing the finger at Russia for causing all this death and destruction? They are the ones who invaded another sovereign country under the guise of fighting nazis. They are the reason for the war in the first place.

Hard to believe this kind of myopia exists.

 

[Rod1]

We were fucking meddling with Russia and Ukraine before the 2014 invasion. You pull your head out your ass.

Russia has been poisoning their fucking politicians since early 2000s, that's not meddling?

Or are you one of those "only what the US does counts as intervention" tards? are you a far leftist?

 

[Rod1]

I rather that happen than a nuke blowing up Kyiv. I’m such a monster.

Cool, would you support your own country becoming a Russian puppet otherwise it gets its capital nuked?

 

[Rational Poster]

Russia has been poisoning their fucking politicians since early 2000s, that's not meddling?

Or are you one of those "only what the US does counts as intervention" tards? are you a far leftist?

Actually US diplomats at the time had an opinion on who they would prefer, therefore, Russia clandestinely invading and assassinating political opponents in Ukraine and installing their puppets for decades doesn't count.

 

[7even]

Cool, would you support your own country becoming a Russian puppet otherwise it gets its capital nuked?

I wouldn’t but I would understand if people from other countries not wanting people from my country getting exterminated by nukes whatever if they feel somewhat responsible for it or not. I would also understand people of other countries not wanting to get dragged into a war or worse, a nuclear war, which would end the world.

 

[7even]

Russia has been poisoning their fucking politicians since early 2000s, that's not meddling?

Or are you one of those "only what the US does counts as intervention" tards? are you a far leftist?

I way more right than left with politics.



Belarus is a Russian puppet. Does anyone here give a fuck about them? Are they a problem to anyone to the west?.


And yes, the Russians are pieces of shit for poisoning politicians if true. I just want the better outcome with the Ukrainians not getting nuked. I also don’t want Americans getting dragged into another war. I don’t want Nuclear Armageddon. The war already started. The milk been spilled. If the Ukrainians can win this war without the escalation to nuclear weapons, then great

 

[A Lurker]

I want Ukraine to win.

 

[crystallake]

I rather that happen than a nuke blowing up Kyiv. I’m such a monster.


Anyway, the war already started. I want Ukraine to win. Let’s just hope Kyiv doesn’t get nuked.

If you have that much fear of Russia using nukes you do exactly what they want you to. Right now it's a bluff they use more than anything. They want territory in ukr, not destroy it.

 

[7even]

If you have that much fear of Russia using nukes you do exactly what they want you to. Right now it's a bluff they use more than anything. They want territory in ukr, not destroy it.

It’s easy not to fear for the Ukrainians when you’re not Ukrainian in Ukraine. I just don’t want US intervention to be part of the catalyst of a Ukrainian city being nuked. I also don’t want that to happen period. Hopefully Ukraine can win this war with no Nukes being detonated.

 

[Andy Capp]

Russia has been poisoning their fucking politicians since early 2000s, that's not meddling?

Or are you one of those "only what the US does counts as intervention" tards? are you a far leftist?

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[Bojka]

If you have that much fear of Russia using nukes you do exactly what they want you to. Right now it's a bluff they use more than anything. They want territory in ukr, not destroy it.

They want the land around the Black Sea for access to/influence over it. I think the land itself is secondary, but they obviously want cities like Kherson to keep their military in.

 

[Denter]

Russia has been poisoning their fucking politicians since early 2000s, that's not meddling?

Or are you one of those "only what the US does counts as intervention" tards? are you a far leftist?

Of course Russia has been meddling, paying people off, subsidizing, menacing, etc. This is because they consider (or used to consider) Ukraine a client state of theirs. It was formally bound to Russia for hundreds of years, and a subject republic of the Soviet Union. It remained in the Russian sphere for decades after that due to that same meddling and subsidizing. The story has been the steady rolling back of Moscow's client states since '91, and their integration into some sort of western structure. Russia wants to contest this now by force, instead of bribes and gas subsidies. Whether it is strong enough to do so is in doubt.

 

[Denter]

Complications of the Ukraine War (theepochtimes.com)

I thought this was a near summary of "the other side".

 

[Andy Capp]

It’s easy not to fear for the Ukrainians when you’re not Ukrainian in Ukraine. I just don’t want US intervention to be part of the catalyst of a Ukrainian city being nuked. I also don’t want that to happen period. Hopefully Ukraine can win this war with no Nukes being detonated.

I thing the chance of Russia using nukes is just about 0 unless actual Russian territory, i.e. not Crimea or Belarus, but if Russia itself is attacked in a large scale offensive, it's the one excuse that might do it; otherwise, a bully like Putin will back down when push comes to shove.

It's not like they can never exercise the option of simply calling it a day and withdrawing, which would presumably also end sanctions and so on. If he's got half the savvy of p. Trump he might even be able to pull off a "Look, see? I fixed the issue" message that the masses might be able to swallow if they have plenty of vodka, now affordable thanks to a suddenly improved economic situation.

Russia has to be stopped here and now to show them their nuclear blackmail is no longer going to work and any attempt to make good on it will result in everything from Moscow to Leningrad being turned to glass.

Besides, if you get your country turned into a nuclear wasteland, how are you going to hold fear of attack from the West over your people's heads as a yoke to keep you in power? Not gonna happen. Better to cut your losses and use the weakened position to strengthen Russian resolve to improve their defenses than to be this guy,

and try to go out in a (short lived) blaze of glory. Where are you going to spend all your stolen money?

@SandisLL may agree: Russian identity seems to be more about the idea of becoming the dominant power in the world than the actual accomplishment of that goal.