International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V9

[lsa]

What I'm worried about is them blowing that dam

That damn dam.

 

[Videer]

Shame that it is edited and still a massive clusterfuck.

$15.2B in military assistance with $2.8B planned in the near future. (And about $30-40B in non military assistance)

One carrier costs just $13B (and rising) just to construct.

Basically nothing compared to just our annual budget.

In my honest opinion the monerary value of military aid provided to Ukraine is inflated due to most weapons coming from existing stocks that would need to be replenished anyway. What is the monetary value of a AGM-88 HARM built in the 80s with few years of shelf life left? Not much I'd say, well, outside of Ukraine of course.

the drone needs to have a loudspeaker attached so it can play the JAWS theme song while it chases the fleeing russian

Watching drones follow soldiers and precisely dropping munitions on helpless soldiers is just something else. Brutal.

 

[PEB]

This is becoming a thing with Russians who finally decided they have to lean towards the west given the complete meltdown of human rights in Russia and Putin authoritarian power.
Yuri is being treated like a free man now I guess but a few Russians have already renounced their citizenship. Rubin Vardanyan, Timur Turlov, Leonid Nevzlin reports say likely more as the situation worsens in Russia and question are raised if Putin will remain the head of Russia or even more hardline President will replace him. These guys net worth is over 2.2 billion and above and own yachts over 100 million dollars that have been held by European and US authorities. Basically many of these Russians due a lot of their business with European and US corporations and remaining a Russian citizen has made it hard for their businesses.



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Oct 10 (Reuters) - Israeli-Russian billionaire Yuri Milner said on Monday he has renounced his Russian citizenship after leaving the country in 2014.

Milner is the founder of internet investment firm DST Global, and made a fortune by betting on Chinese tech companies like e-commerce platforms Alibaba and JD.com (9618.HK).

"My family and I left Russia for good in 2014, after the Russian annexation of Crimea," Milner said in a tweet. "And this summer, we officially completed the process of renouncing our Russian citizenship.""

https://www.reuters.com/world/billi...-relinquishes-russian-citizenship-2022-10-11/

https://www.newsweek.com/billionaires-who-renounced-russian-citizenship-war-1750830

 

[lsa]

Explosion in Melitopol is reported to have taken place near FSB office
Five people are said to have been injured in an explosion in the Russian-controlled city of Melitopol in southern Ukraine. This is stated by a pro-Russian representative on Telegram, writes AFP.

The five people are said to have received minor injuries, although one had to be taken to hospital. According to the Russian representative, who is not named, a car exploded near the building of the media group ZaMedia.

Melitopol's Ukrainian mayor Ivan Fedorov testifies to the same explosion. In a post on Telegram, he writes that the explosion took place in a car near a building where the Russian security service FSB operates, as well as at a building from which Russian television is broadcast.

https://omni.se/senaste

 

[PEB]

Shame that it is edited and still a massive clusterfuck.



Watching drones follow soldiers and precisely dropping munitions on helpless soldiers is just something else. Brutal.

Future shaping of ground warfare according to General Lloyd Austin but people who have been following the progress that has been made with drone technology pretty much understood this eventuality.

 

[SandisLL]

Shame that it is edited and still a massive clusterfuck.



In my honest opinion the monerary value of military aid provided to Ukraine is inflated due to most weapons coming from existing stocks that would need to be replenished anyway. What is the monetary value of a AGM-88 HARM built in the 80s with few years of shelf life left? Not much I'd say, well, outside of Ukraine of course.



Watching drones follow soldiers and precisely dropping munitions on helpless soldiers is just something else. Brutal.

Well. It is really easy to see true core of this game: to empty warehouses from things that should be replaced and utilised anyway....

Then call big sums " spent on ukr " and ofc weapons manufacturers will get next orders to manufacture weapons...

+++ even with HIMARs U.S really had earned damn a lot not " spent money ".

Cos it is cool deal for business: gave Ukr some xx himars and bunch with older missiles anyway should had been replaced with new ones.

In exchange they get orders for more than 550 launchers from " europe they should not care about ".
For good money and looks that a lot of jobs in U.S will be warranted for long term.

Etc.
It is stuff really easy to see how U.S is earning by " helping ukraine ".

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Shame that it is edited and still a massive clusterfuck.



In my honest opinion the monerary value of military aid provided to Ukraine is inflated due to most weapons coming from existing stocks that would need to be replenished anyway. What is the monetary value of a AGM-88 HARM built in the 80s with few years of shelf life left? Not much I'd say, well, outside of Ukraine of course.



Watching drones follow soldiers and precisely dropping munitions on helpless soldiers is just something else. Brutal.

ive seen a couple videos of drones following russian soldiers around and terrorizing fleeing russian troops, but the only time ive seen the drones fire munitions at them is when some russian soldier was giving another russian soldier a blowjob in some bombed out ruins of a building or something.

i guess the drones are taking a hardline stance against the LGBTQ community, seeing how they would rather drop their expensive weapons on higher value targets, except in that case. needless to say it wasn't quite the explosive climax or happy ending that the two of them were going for.

 

[7even]

Precisely because we are anti-war that we need Russia to lose, just like we needed the US to bleed in Iraq and realize invading a country unilaterally will not bring any glory.

Precisely because we are anti-war that we need Russia to lose, just like we needed the US to bleed in Iraq and realize invading a country unilaterally will not bring any glory.

The liberals of America help created this war from years before. The liberals are blood thirsty warmongers.

 

[Prutfis]

the drone needs to have a loudspeaker attached so it can play the JAWS theme song while it chases the fleeing russian

Wagner, Apocalypse now style

 

[Videer]

Well. It is really easy to see true core of this game: to empty warehouses from things that should be replaced and utilised anyway....

Then call big sums " spent on ukr " and ofc weapons manufacturers will get next orders to manufacture weapons...

+++ even with HIMARs U.S really had earned damn a lot not " spent money ".

Cos it is cool deal for business: gave Ukr some xx himars and bunch with older missiles anyway should had been replaced with new ones.

In exchange they get orders for more than 550 launchers from " europe they should not care about ".
For good money and looks that a lot of jobs in U.S will be warranted for long term.

Etc.
It is stuff really easy to see how U.S is earning by " helping ukraine ".

What were you saying

WASHINGTON, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The United States is considering sending older HAWK air defense equipment from storage to Ukraine to help it defend against Russian drone and cruise missile attacks, two U.S. officials told Reuters.

Emphasis on older. Phased out from US service some two decades ago.

The United States would likely initially send interceptor missiles for the HAWK system to Ukraine because it was unclear if enough U.S. launchers were in good repair, one U.S. official told Reuters. The U.S. systems have been in storage for decades.

Spain has sent few launchers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...quipment-ukraine-say-us-officials-2022-10-25/

edit. To clarify yes it is all good, and I am sure those will intercept some cruise missiles and loitering munitions. The point is that much of what has been given to Ukraine has already been paid for, in many cases decades ago.

 

[aries]

Future shaping of ground warfare according to General Lloyd Austin but people who have been following the progress that has been made with drone technology pretty much understood this eventuality.

Yes inevitable once the technology got cheap enough.

Drones are just one step away from robots. And robots vs. humans has been written about in science fiction for near a century.

The hunter seeker in Dune is a human piloted drone and that book came out in 1965.

 

[AWilder]

and here is a Rare look at Retards of Russian cruise missile strikes.

if they are cutting cables in access holes that isn't really a big deal. They can easily be repaired. That's what the access holes are fore. Way harder to find a cut cable in the middle of no where with no obvious signs of digging or damage.

 

[AWilder]

The liberals of America help created this war from years before. The liberals are blood thirsty warmongers.

hahahahahaha this is complete nonsense. don't believe some dork who couldn't find ukraine on a map and spews misinformation.

 

[7even]

hahahahahaha this is complete nonsense. don't believe some dork who couldn't find ukraine on a map and spews misinformation.

Dude they didn’t just made that Stephen Colbert video out of thin air. That interview happened around 2014.
Now all you liberal anti war dorks want to play the risk of ending the world with a nuclear war. The irony.

 

[SandisLL]

What were you saying



Emphasis on older. Phased out from US service some two decades ago.



Spain has sent few launchers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...quipment-ukraine-say-us-officials-2022-10-25/

edit. To clarify yes it is all good, and I am sure those will intercept some cruise missiles and loitering munitions. The point is that much of what has been given to Ukraine has already been paid for, in many cases decades ago.

Exactly and money already had been paid off and spent ofc....

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Just one example: one EU country had gave Ukr " Stinger " MANPADs....
Unlike with Germany it was fast help...
March 2022.
& The manpads they had sent weren't new and fresh stuff.
They already had one refubrishment cycle done and should be utilised or....undergo next refubrishment cycle in factory.... for taxpayers money ofc.
Also funds to buy new ) ) and more modern stuff already had been allocated in budget.
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So U.S factories just had more jobs and more profit a bit faster. Again good for U.S economy.
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While they didn't had sent Swedish MANPADs ... despite they does have....
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Estonia for example pgladly sent Jawelins and 0 SPIKE, despite it is only one alone country who doesn't have re-export ban clause with Israel...
About other countries it is easy to get why cos they had signed clauses with Israel when bought SPIKE stuff....

Dunno why but Israel somewhat loves Estonia....

 

[SandisLL]

if they are cutting cables in access holes that isn't really a big deal. They can easily be repaired. That's what the access holes are fore. Way harder to find a cut cable in the middle of no where with no obvious signs of digging or damage.

Access holes are suitable to place mines and IEDs....

 

[SandisLL]

One bad thing.
I only hope that Ukr will not be so stupid like Russia....
They want that Ukr will attack city directly and then turn it like Severodonetsk & Mariupol was for Russia.....


IMHO Ukr should hit supply lines and " pressure " with city encircling attempts in order to force them remove troops from city.
Otherwise Ukr might get bloodbath in city....

 

[AWilder]

Dude they didn’t just made that Stephen Colbert video out of thin air. That interview happened around 2014.
Now all you liberal anti war dorks want to play the risk of ending the world with a nuclear war. The irony.

you do you, if you want to parrot Joe Rogan's drinking buddies who are ignorant as shit that's all you buddy. don't get mad when the adults laugh at you.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia today had lost 3 Ka-52 helicopters.
Starstreak, Buk and USSR era Igla ....

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

I liked when they said "Allah-Akbar"