International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

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I honestly thought that would be the most likely place to use chemical warfare.. ( in the steel factory ) . Thought they'd just pump it full of gas how they did the hostage situation..

Glad to be wrong on that one so far.

Putin wanted to seal it up, but his superiors interjected and overruled him for fear of the backlash.

Putin has no control over the big stuff, and apparently now is weilding his power at a much lower level, interjecting in decisions at colonel level.

I'd say it's sad to see, but nah.

Fuck him.
 
Ukrainian Forces Say They Seized Russian Commander's Secret Notebook

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"A Ukrainian mountain unit called "The Transcarpathian Beavers" says it seized a Russian commander's secret notebook and other trophies after beating back invading troops.
The Ukrainian brigade said they found the unit commander's notebook, giving them information on names of top officers and personnel of various Russian units taking part in the ongoing invasion. Defending forces hope the information will help them mount an effective defense.

Russian troops invaded Ukraine on February 24 in what the Kremlin is still calling a "special military operation." Monday marks the 82nd day of the campaign."
Ukrainian Forces Say They Seized Russian Commander's Secret Notebook (msn.com)
 
Ukrainian Forces Say They Seized Russian Commander's Secret Notebook

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"A Ukrainian mountain unit called "The Transcarpathian Beavers" says it seized a Russian commander's secret notebook and other trophies after beating back invading troops.
The Ukrainian brigade said they found the unit commander's notebook, giving them information on names of top officers and personnel of various Russian units taking part in the ongoing invasion. Defending forces hope the information will help them mount an effective defense.

Russian troops invaded Ukraine on February 24 in what the Kremlin is still calling a "special military operation." Monday marks the 82nd day of the campaign."
Ukrainian Forces Say They Seized Russian Commander's Secret Notebook (msn.com)


That is a huge huge blow
 
I think one thing we can say is a casualty of the invasion of Ukraine is any sort of left-wing government in the Ukrainian state for the foreseeable future. Not only were the left wing parties banned (the Communist Party was banned earlier in 2015) after this war began, a prominent negotiator who went to Belarus was publicly murdered for treason. Many dissidents have been rounded up and jailed, or worse. Control over local media and opposition parties has been firmly established. Ukraine now seems likely to survive this war, and even to do so with no territorial concessions. This result will surely bolster the nationalists.

Do we think that this nationalism will last? And will it be put to good use developing the country and solving its problems, or will we see more of the same corruption and graft, with most of the rebuilding funds going being siphoned away?

As far as I can tell, Zelensky's party "Servant of the People" is center left. They describe their ideology as "Ukrainian centrism" and they are now affiliated with the Alliance For Liberals and Democrats For Europe Party

https://www.aldeparty.eu/alde_welcomes_zelenskyy_s_party_to_the_liberal_family

One of the big issues for Ukraine related to the invasion is Ukrainization (promotion of Ukrainian language and culture over Russian language/culture). While Servant of the People supports Ukrainization, its position is pretty mild:
"Neither by bans, nor by persecution, but by quality. When the Ukrainian content becomes more interesting and offers a higher quality, then we will have an absolutely another attitude. Meanwhile, the state should work out all mechanisms for that,"
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/596988.html

They are basically against banning Russian and think that the best way to promote Ukrainian is through making better TV shows (Zelensky was the lead actor in the TV Show "Servant of the People" so its kind on script). That is not the nationalist stance. Now that was pre-war so maybe they have shifted a bit but I don't see them as being hardcore nationalists.
 
Invading your neighbour is an act of war
Arming the enemy of your competitor isn't exactly anything new.
It's not like the USSR passed up on a chance to arm enemies of the US in the past.
Just because the Ukrainians are kicking Russias teeth in isn't a reason to not arm them, hell this might be one of the best actual defense investments the west can make.

USSR not only armed them, they did even more.
Russia today is supporting seperatist controlled areas in Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia.
Supports dictator Lukashenko with russian troops, weapons, help from FSB specialists AND...natrual gas supplies with discount + technical assistance & even had gave him credit in USD to build nuclear power plant.
 
Does anyone actually believe the "Azov evacuated" BS? They're being "evacuated" straight into prison camps.
 
USSR not only sold Sadam weapons.
Sadam negotiated with USSR to build nuclear research reactor in Iraq in order to get his nuclear scientists trained in USSR.
Then ordered by Kremlin specialists had built research reactor in Iraq. Supplied with nuclear fuel.
When Sadam told that reactor is not enough powerful, Kremlin gladly improved reactor in order to increase power and again supplied nuclear fuel.
However for Sadam reactor looked not enough powerful, therefore he bought next, now from France.


North Korea: there first reactor was from USSR...
1961-1973 they had good relationships in nuclear research field.
They supplied North Korea with diesel fuel till collapse of USSR... until Gorbachev in 1990 th demanded $ from North Korea for diesel fuel and didn't gave them anymore for free...
 
You make it sound like Azovstal is a place, rather than a business. Russia's pointless bombardment of Azovstal makes little difference to the outcome in Mariupol.
A place of business? I don't know what you want...

It wasn't much of an bombardment more of a starve them out situation.

That was the final hold out in Mariupol and one of the bigger stories in the news for the last month.
 
A place of business? I don't know what you want...

It wasn't much of an bombardment more of a starve them out situation.

That was the final hold out in Mariupol and one of the bigger stories in the news for the last month.

Where did you get the impression it wasn't under 'bombardment' from, out of interest?

There will still be plenty of people inside the steelworks, but all that waste for a sense of 'completion' is pretty ridiculous.
 
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Does anyone have a tl;dr update for the last 3 weeks? Feels like there's a stalemate on the battlefield and the usual infowars.

Honestly, haven't been paying much attention to Ukraine. Enough shit is happening in my country to keep me entertained, lol.
 
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Does anyone have a tl;dr update for the last 3 weeks? Feels like there's a stalemate.

Honestly, haven't been paying much attention to Ukraine. Enough shit is happening in my country to keep me entertained, lol.

Russia Pushed completely out of Kiev and kharkiv.

Lots of russia losses trying to push from the east. ( River crossing)

Mauripol has fallen completely. Had forces remaining in the steelworks. Some just surrendered.. more remaining in steelworks according to siver.

What's happening in your neck of the woods lately?
 
What's happening in your neck of the woods lately?

In a couple days we went from 0-100 and are cracking down on Russian influence in our society.

There were provocations on Victory day, High ranking police officers got fired for their inefficiency, minister of interior affairs (who is in charge of the police and also an ethnic russian, so that sends sussy vibes all over the place.) was forced to step down, because our nationalist party threatened to leave the government, if she didn't leave, the leader of a pro russian political party got put in jail (later got released), russian language got banned in all levels of education, and the big Soviet WW2 victory monument, where the victory day is celebrated every year, will get demolished, and people donated 250k in 24 hours to fund it, so government won't have to worry about money.

All this thanks to one mad lad with a tractor.

@idrankyourbeer

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An S-300 battery in Syria reportedly launched at least one surface-to-air missile at Israeli Air Force F-16 fighter jets in recent days. The incident is the first apparent instance of a Russian-made S-300 firing on Israeli jets as they conduct raids in Syria since Moscow declared they had equipped the Assad regime with these air defense systems in 2018.
Exactly who operates the S-300 systems currently in Syria, regardless of their official status, is unclear. It is known that Russia does, or at least did, control the release of the missiles from 'Syrian' S-300 batteries in the country. As a result, neither those batteries nor Russia's own S-400 and S-300 systems located at its naval base in Tartus and at its Khmeimim Air Base near Latakia, have ever fired on incoming Israeli fighters, at least until now.Israel’s Channel 13 reported on May 16 that 'Russian' S-300 SAM batteries had fired missiles at Israeli jets after striking targets near Syria's northwestern city of Masyaf last Friday. However, the outlet's story also describes the ostensibly Syrian S-300 systems as being effectively Russian given Moscow's direct control over their use.
As is standard practice, the Israel Defense Forces have not commented one way or another on the strikes. A statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense's Russian Reconciliation Center for Syria had said that Israeli F-16s fired 22 missiles targeting a 'Syrian scientific research center' in the western Syrian city of Masyaf and the port of Baniyas on May 13.
In addition to targeting Iranian arms transfers destined for militants in Syria and Lebanon, as well as Iranian-backed weapons factories and arms caches in Syria, the Israeli strikes in Syria last week were intended to destroy entrances to underground facilities, the Jerusalem Post reported. At least some of the targets were hit by previous airstrikes in 2018, but had since been rebuilt.



https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...israeli-jets-over-syria-for-first-time-report


lol putin is really trying to piss people off...
 
We went from 0-100 and are cracking down on Russian influence in our society.

There were provocations on Victory day, High ranking police officers got fired for their inefficiency, minister of interior affairs (who is in charge of the police and also an ethnic russian, so maybe she's pro-Russia, idk.) is stepping down, a leader of a pro russian political party got put in jail (later got released), russian language got banned in all levels of education, and the big Soviet WW2 victory monument, where the victory day is celebrated every year, will get demolished, and people donated 250k in 24 hours to fund it, so government won't have to worry about money.

All this thanks to one mad lad with a tractor.

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Does sound pretty hectic mate. 250k to demolish the monument? Sounds like plenty of people would have done it for free . I assume it's just massive?

Hopefully you and yours are doing well regardless of the world and the war
 
Does sound pretty hectic mate. 250k to demolish the monument? Sounds like plenty of people would have done it for free . I assume it's just massive?

Hopefully you and yours are doing well regardless of the world and the war

It is 80 meters tall.

(not so) fun fact:

The last recorded terrorist attack in our country was in 1997, when 2 madlads tried to blow it up. They botched it and one of them ended up blowing himself up instead.
 
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